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We've gone to daylight bombing. Is this so the people actually see their skies taken over by the US military as opposed to being told by the IRGC they have everything under control? It seems like this is to show the population they are being lied to by their government.
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Is there even anything coming back from Iran? Doesn’t Attacking in daylight show that Iran can’t defend themselves? I don’t know…..
Throwing shit against the wall, see what sticks. Not sure if visibility will weaken or embolden Iranian resistance. Besides these are high altitude strikes. Not zorching in at 300’ AGL.
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Well, they still have small weapons that they took down on of our choppers with so there is risk. But it seems that there is still a large portion of the population that wants the government overthrown but probably are afraid to do anything as they still believe how much control the people in power have. Do they even have internet access again yet? So actually seeing with their own eyes has impact. How much information flow is there inside Iran? I don't really see ever that there is a straight line to an end, there will always be highs and lows as they will keep testing their boundaries to see what they can get away with and improve their leverage in negotiations.
TM
Iran is pissing off their neighbors like nobody's business. Is it just a matter of time before the neighbors jump in?
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Mafia style stuff.
It’s a demonstration of air superiority.
I’m sure the Iranian people saw what happened in Afghanistan and, what happened with the Taliban after we left.
Some might argue air supremacy if it weren’t for those pesky drones. Not that night or day makes any difference.
True.
Good point, seems like it’s in their interest to get rid of a pesky neighbor. Perhaps Russia and China backing have something to do with them backing down 🤷🏼♂️
How? When the Greater Israel is achieved. I'm sure a few of you have heard Satanyahu talking about how Turkey is also a threat. They'll be next. I'd guess sooner than later.
New tech is always changing war. No more swords and shields.
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It ends with a bad deal
How does this thing in Iran end?
Based on 80 years of precedent... in a clusterfuck. The USA makes war by committee, and you can't do that.
Caveat: I have half a dozen Iranian colleagues, stellar human beings all. They're NOT the same as the fanatical goatfuckers over there.
Trump's mouth is half the problem. In what fucking universe do you TELL the enemy on live TV what you're going to do to them? Over and over and over? His #1 problem is, he's a TRADER. He thinks everything is a business deal. WRONG.
Certain types of people only understand one thing, EXTREME VIOLENCE.
Africa is one. For instance the Hutus and Tutsis in east Congo, where he thinks he "made peace" 🤣 🤣 I was right in the middle of all that shit 30 years ago NOW, and it was the exact same story as today: ebola, genocide, death and destruction -- and flith, disease, stupidity and barbarism like you can't imagine.
Fanatical muslims like the IRGC is another. They're waiting for some ghost to climb out of a well (crawl out of a cave?) and end the world .... and they want to nudge it along. Ya think the threat of getting nuked deters them? If they get a nuke they WILL use it on Israel and/or the USA no matter the consequences. They say so, every day, but some people are tone deaf. They do NOT think like hawkers and traders, like Trump does -- and the Euro pussies, by the way.
Because he's a trader, and doesn't understand that other parts of the world don't think like that, Trump won't do what's necessary to defeat Iran -- obliterate Kharg Island, where 90% of their oil exports go. THEIR ONLY INDUSTRY. Then destroy every big bridge and power station and desalination plant, and wait. It won't be long.
Hunting down 100 000 drones and rockets scattered all over a huge desert country won't do it.
There won't be "boots on the ground". Ever hear of "logiistical build-up"? To physically invade Iran the US military would need half a million troops plus logistics tail. Two oceans and 20 countries away.
Ain't happenin' while Foghorn is President.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, 'Merica is turning into a 3rd world shithole. Lovely in Detroit, Baltimore, LA, Memphis, St. Louis, NY and Mogadishu West this time of year, load up the wife and kids and go visit!
So much for "America first", eh?
Where's my popcorn?
They learned from the Italians!
Bullshit argument.
All those except the Bosphorus -- a narrow, natural channel INSIDE Turkey -- are man-made and cost Billions and years to build.
Hormuz is 21 miles wide at its narrowest point, half of which is Oman's territorial waters. Iran has NO say over that.
Pit Row
Why would the cost to build man made channels have an effect of fees charged, they are all inside their nations territorial waters.
It's funny the US is one of the few countries that has not ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, so does not officially recognize other nations territorial waters.
I was thinking NYC
I was picturing Mafia in NYC . But the NYC connection makes sense.
I, like most, don’t agree with this war. But if we’re going to be there and do it, let’s go in there and get the job done. Let’s stop stringing it along, pretending we have a truce and peace in the region.
The only silver lining is that it has been since the early days of the GWOT that our military truly got to go kinetic instead of being glorified police officers with all of the rules of engagement. War is really good training, and you never know when the next one will be.
The only way to "get the job done" is with ground forces, do you want to be one of the 100s of thousands of Americas risking their lives?
Tanks, troupes, street fighting.
Not going to happen. No way. Shouldn't happen.
@rhargrave431 thinks it should happen.
I finally read this earlier in the year. Fantastic. I hope you enjoy as well.
Mafia in NYC is exactly what I was thinking too
Today Drones are the street fighters now
It doesn't. The usa will eventually declare victory And shit will be back exactly as it was, but with iran at least temporarily having a diminished miliary capacity. That's if we are lucky. The corporate world will use it as an excuse for high prices that will never really go down.
America will be safer or not , depending on the analysis. It will cost a shit ton of money that could have gone to roads, the debt, healthcare or lower taxes.
Most of our lives won't be much better or worse.
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