USA Cooked?

A lot of the riders from the other countries are even worse off on points 1 & 2, though.

Fwiw, I'm with the guys who don't care where people are born. I just want to see good racing.

No, a born german in germany, who is now an american citizen won the supercross title. 

Cant try to americanize his orgin.. this supercross series is not the mayflower bud.

Now his child, is American german due to the naturalization, so if he wins a supercross title in the future then yes an american won. 

The Lorrettas machine is cooked. 

Europeans race more, and on more difficult tracks like Lommel.  A lot of our tracks have been supercrossed or just have deep ruts. We don't even really have a deep sand track. Southwick's base looked so hard today. Go watch a Lommel race and see the huge difference in what Europe races on all the time. Almost every single one of our tracks is rut-o-cross.. like.. we don't have a proper hardpack track anymore because racers complain when it's not ripped 2ft deep. 

The sport is evolving and we're not catching up and changing along with it. 

Our country is huge and racing is expensive and our costs of living keep going up.. it's rough and why many only last 2-3 years at the national level before pulling out and getting a "real job"

The problem is that there are too many injuries, the Coenen brothers pay a visit to America and they both leave hurt.

My money statement has to do with the fact that a kid who really wants to ride and race and would be the next american rc/js type. That family just legitimately cant afford a bike or to race. (Thats why i said money)

Sexton is supposed to be in the prime of his career right now and take over the throne for Eli. Hes supposed to be fighting for championships right now with deegan coming behind him in a few years. Eli was just winning sx races and got injured first round so we dont know what he could have done this year too maybe a couple motos. Theres only one first place tho and Sexton is the american thats supposed to be up there right now, he probably the only other guy than hunter that has the speed to beat jett at times. 

Unfortunately hes his own worst enemy and hes burning every bridge and team there is and then for some reason leaves the ktm that hes winning on and goes to the kawi which is a known bad team/turd bike. Hes wasting prime years of his career, plus he also cant progress getting 6ths. He needs to figure it tf out because nobody is gonna wait. This is why theres no american winning races though. 

Why do we need a deep sand track? Serious question. What's a deep "pROpEr" sand track on the circuit going to do for AMA racing? We're being left behind in this evolving sport yet all the best riders in the world want to race sx and mx here. I don't care what country the winners on Saturday's come from as long as the racing is great. There's no American powerhouse rider right now. Oh no!! The dudes from Australia are blowing my mind. That's fine by me

A proper american can dominate all soil types.. thus we need a deeper sand track like lommel.

Us american riders need to be well versed

Too be fair ,the American dirtbike racer is doing exactly what he needs to do to create generational wealth. They dont care what the internet thinks about their career path.

If one wanted to spend the time I bet you could draw some interesting parallels between USA Soccer Development/US Amateur moto compared to Euro soccer development/Euro Amateur moto. 

Thats honestly where I’m at. Ill obviously root for USA at MXON and USA at the world cup, but as far as the ama nationals I just want as many top riders to come here as possible and make the best racing entertainment possible. I dont necessarily root for Americans over other riders in the nationals because its not a country vs country event. A lot of the guys who come race here become Americans anyways Kenny, Marvin, Dean Wilson, Pourcel, Langston, Alberteen, Hunter said theyre here to stay and want citizenship. I’m sure theres a million more. 

That being said the pendulum is constantly swinging back and forth and right now Australia and the Belgians are on top but if chase gets his shit together USA could come back. The best thing is to admit our amateur system sucks and then fix it. If we turn futures into the emx of supercross and motocross we could get back on top. 

Thats 1 guy and Deegan already had generational wealth even if he never touched a dirtbike, ppl are asking where is everybody else. 

Comparing five-lap amateur races a few times a year and perfectly prepared practice tracks daily is to the EMX series is not a fair comparison. EMX is a full championship that runs alongside the MXGP series, with riders competing on the same type of demanding tracks and conditions as the highest level of motocross.

Compared to AMA motocross events like Loretta Lynn’s, motos require a much higher level of endurance. The races are typically 25–30 minutes long, and European tracks are often rougher and less maintained between sessions, forcing riders to adapt to changing track conditions throughout the weekend.

Just like soccer and many sports in the US, it's a rich mans sport. We don't make um like we used to. That eliminates a lot of dogs like we had during our prime when 2 strokes were so much cheaper. It seems like most of these kids are happy with the paycheck, easy going and don't have the overriding desire to win. All you have to do is listen to them talk, they are Ok with mediocrity. They don't sound like Hannah, RC ,RJ or Stew.

MXGP of Southwick

People maybe opening their eyes that the American amateur system is a joke and under prepares riders, the format from Europe and even Australia is preparing people better. Europe theyre doing longer motos on rougher tracks, and Australians have kids racing full blown (although smaller than USA tracks) Supercross on 85cc.

Jett, Hunter, Cole Davies, Kayden Minear, Prado, Coenen brothers......

Sorry, but not

10’s of 1000’s of laps in sandish tracks in the Southeast do us no favors for the soils of the rest of the continent 

i would think there is more support available in the USA than in Belgium or Australia at a young age, 

Sort of the idea of America, the best come here to be the best. Look at most sports, lots of folks from all over. 

As somebody said already, american culture weakens our competiveness. Just my old man opinion.

Here’s this same thread but from two months ago. Why do you guys panic so much when a foreigner wins?

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/american-motocross-cooked

We’re reaping all the benefits, US SX and MX is better than ever. Who cares what the rider’s nationalities are? 

All current top US prospects have headcase issues bar Deegan, Kitchen, Marchbanks, Sexton and Hymas.

All have the speed but seem to enjoy self sabotage more than anything, comparing to Deegan you know what you are getting with Deegan and mentality he's good as it gets, the rest of them week to week you have no idea what will happen, that's the difference.

Yes, we are cooked, fried, boiled, sous vide…all of it. Seriously. 

I blame the mx amatuer program here, it sucks. We need something like emx in europe. These kids are not being developed / trained enough to be mx stars.

Luck of the draw. There are freaks of moto nature in every country,....the fact still remains that everyone wants to race and live in the states, we aint perfect but we still have more freedom and the opportunity to succeed than most

About 1/4 of all MX bikes are sold in the USA. At an international event, which this appears to be becoming, you'd expect about 1/4 of the top 10 to be US riders. Yes it's a bit more complex, but it does add some perspective.

Also, Hurry back JC32

Obviously we have injuries going on but we also can just replace AC and Forkner level talents. They had it all and both were injured constantly and retired early. That don’t help. Any other country loses two top talents like that it would be devastating.