Can USA put a Rider on the Podium in 450 class at the Wick

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crusty_xx wrote:

Alright so what are all the Euros on the line now? Can't even keep track

250
Francisco Garcia
Sacha Coenen

450
Lucas Coenen
vd Moosdijk
Haarup
Guillod
Ferrandis
Prado
Cairoli
Rubini
Toendel

vdrsnk04 wrote:
Impressive list. We should add in all the others from countries outside the USA. I love seeing all the different people here, and their respect toward...

Impressive list. We should add in all the others from countries outside the USA. I love seeing all the different people here, and their respect toward our country. Like TC222 and his wife wearing our colors was awesome to see!

decano51 wrote:

Add in the Oceana fellas.

Minear 

Davies

Shimoda 

Lawrences 

Don’t forget Jake Cannon.

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I think a more relevant question is can they put a rider in the top 5 in the 450 class?

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aeffertz wrote:
It’s so funny to constantly see the Deegan camp play the ‘tough guy’ role yet have the thinnest skin in the game. On yesterday’s pulp show...

It’s so funny to constantly see the Deegan camp play the ‘tough guy’ role yet have the thinnest skin in the game. On yesterday’s pulp show Randy said Brian called him a shit talking hater because of this hilarious post. For an entire family that has based their life around social media, you would think they would understand it comes with some of this stuff. 

 

kawasa84 wrote:
Are you saying he is a nepo baby. Most nepo kids post a lot on their socials while eating at the finest restaurants, partying at the...

Are you saying he is a nepo baby. Most nepo kids post a lot on their socials while eating at the finest restaurants, partying at the best festivals and raves, traveling the planet in private jets, and having fun with there nepo friends on yachts.

If he owns some nice cars like a lot of other top racers, it's because he earned it.

What I see from Deegs is busting his fucking ass to be the best. Sweating, working out, proper diet that sacrifices pleasure foods, road biking 50 miles 4 days a week, and grinding moto's.   

Yeah, the guy does what we all love and is possibly the current fastest American on a 450 and he's just a piece of shit to all the haters. Sad

Maybe ask yourself why a guy with obvious talent, work ethic and plenty of results to back it up is disliked so much?

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7/9/2026 3:03pm
ando wrote:

I think a more relevant question is can they put a rider in the top 5 in the 450 class?

I dont see why the American riders would bother to show up this weekend.

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jazza167 wrote:

Ok m8,Roger. 60+ year olds should be on instagram re creating photo shoots done by 20 year old millionaires. 

DonJulio wrote:

Imagine being upset over a social media post that’s meant to be funny. The deegan fans make me mental 

Sandusky26 wrote:

3 usernames in a month, I do believe you are mental.

Please don't flag my content to ML, I'm not making a new username.

What?

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You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for fear of getting their collective asses handed to them, and to bring shame to their home countries. 

That deal has flip-flopped, hasn't it? Now we're actually questioning if any born-and-raised American riders will be in the top-5 when the smoke clears! 

Sad. 

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You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for...

You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for fear of getting their collective asses handed to them, and to bring shame to their home countries. 

That deal has flip-flopped, hasn't it? Now we're actually questioning if any born-and-raised American riders will be in the top-5 when the smoke clears! 

Sad. 

When was the last year a MXGP rider wasn't doing the US Nationals?   Seems like there's been a presence for atleast the past 40 years or so

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What is the over/under on the Coenen’s obtaining U.S. citizenship? Once here, they won’t be returning. None ever do… That’s gotta eat at you bums. 🫵🤣

 

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Yea…back to the title of the thread….no US riders on the 450 podium this year…but changes are coming.  All US podium by 2028!

2026 podium ….all in no particular order 

Lawrence - AUS
Lawrence - AUS

Coenen - Belgium 

2027 podium

Lawrence - USA
Lawrence - USA
Coenen - Belgium

2028 podium

Lawrence - USA
Lawrence - USA
Coenen - USA

 



 

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davistld01 wrote:
You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for...

You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for fear of getting their collective asses handed to them, and to bring shame to their home countries. 

That deal has flip-flopped, hasn't it? Now we're actually questioning if any born-and-raised American riders will be in the top-5 when the smoke clears! 

Sad. 

3strokemx wrote:
When was the last year a MXGP rider wasn't doing the US Nationals?   Seems like there's been a presence for atleast the past 40 years...

When was the last year a MXGP rider wasn't doing the US Nationals?   Seems like there's been a presence for atleast the past 40 years or so

Presence is one thing...dominance is another.

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El Capitan wrote:

What is the over/under on the Coenen’s obtaining U.S. citizenship? Once here, they won’t be returning. None ever do… That’s gotta eat at you bums. 🫵🤣

 

Never returned to MXGP (Like Vialle)
Or never returned to their home country? (Like Vuillemin)

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El Capitan wrote:

What is the over/under on the Coenen’s obtaining U.S. citizenship? Once here, they won’t be returning. None ever do… That’s gotta eat at you bums. 🫵🤣

 

3strokemx wrote:

Never returned to MXGP (Like Vialle)
Or never returned to their home country? (Like Vuillemin)

Vialle couldn’t find a 450 ride in the U.S. and went where work opportunities took him. DV is his own dude and is owned by no country. 😎 

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davistld01 wrote:
You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for...

You know...it hasn't been that long ago that none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for fear of getting their collective asses handed to them, and to bring shame to their home countries. 

That deal has flip-flopped, hasn't it? Now we're actually questioning if any born-and-raised American riders will be in the top-5 when the smoke clears! 

Sad. 

3strokemx wrote:
When was the last year a MXGP rider wasn't doing the US Nationals?   Seems like there's been a presence for atleast the past 40 years...

When was the last year a MXGP rider wasn't doing the US Nationals?   Seems like there's been a presence for atleast the past 40 years or so

davistld01 wrote:

Presence is one thing...dominance is another.

In the last 25 years, 32% of AMA Nationals 450 champions were MXGP racers.

So i'm going to have to disagree with you, it was very long ago that "none of the MXGP riders even wanted to come across the pond to race our guys here for fear of getting their collective asses handed to them, and to bring shame to their home countries. "

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Didn't DV get sick of the US and return to France after his house exploded?   

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The Law Firm is not going to always occupy 2/3rd’s of the podium due to several different factors. 

 

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Vialle couldn’t find a 450 ride in the U.S. and went where work opportunities took him. DV is his own dude and is owned by no...

Vialle couldn’t find a 450 ride in the U.S. and went where work opportunities took him. DV is his own dude and is owned by no country. 😎 

He didn`t want a one year deal with KTM in the US:

"There were rumours during the off-season. What led to Tom returning to Europe and moving into MXGP rather than stepping up to the 450 class in America?

Vialle: It’s simple. We were in discussions with KTM and Tom wanted a longer contract than what was offered. He was moving up a class and you have to be realistic. If the first season is difficult and your contract ends, you can be left with nothing. For us it was all or nothing, and we didn’t want to take that risk. You can’t gamble your entire career like that, especially in the United States.

At the same time, we had an excellent offer from Honda through Giacomo Gariboldi. It was a multi-year deal, with a good bike and a strong project. The decision was easy. Things were very good at KTM, but let’s just say there were certain people who didn’t really want us to stay."

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crusty_xx wrote:

Alright so what are all the Euros on the line now? Can't even keep track

250
Francisco Garcia
Sacha Coenen

450
Lucas Coenen
vd Moosdijk
Haarup
Guillod
Ferrandis
Prado
Cairoli
Rubini
Toendel

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crusty_xx wrote:

Alright so what are all the Euros on the line now? Can't even keep track

250
Francisco Garcia
Sacha Coenen

450
Lucas Coenen
vd Moosdijk
Haarup
Guillod
Ferrandis
Prado
Cairoli
Rubini
Toendel

VHM wrote:
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I wonder which is the premiere series??      (Pull pin, throw)

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jazza167 wrote:

Randy look 60…. Old boy should grow up and leave social medial trolling to the kids.

Sully wrote:
You're offended because Brian's offended, but Randy's the one who needs to grow up? Randy's been doing goofy things for a laugh for years, and that's...

You're offended because Brian's offended, but Randy's the one who needs to grow up? Randy's been doing goofy things for a laugh for years, and that's all he's doing here. 

jazza167 wrote:
I couldn’t give a flying fuck about Brian…. Just pointing out a 60 year old trolling a 20 year old on social media is quite childish...

I couldn’t give a flying fuck about Brian…. Just pointing out a 60 year old trolling a 20 year old on social media is quite childish. I’m of the opinion social media should be left for the kids. 

Why should social media be left to the kids? Sure, this was childish and silly - and that’s why it’s hilarious. It’s satire using recontextualization and it’s quite clever and effective. If I was Haiden I’d be a good sport and laugh at myself - which exactly what I expect he’ll do someday when he looks back at some of the stuff he posts now. 

 

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Lucas Coenen is fast AF - Southwick practice

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Sully wrote:
You're offended because Brian's offended, but Randy's the one who needs to grow up? Randy's been doing goofy things for a laugh for years, and that's...

You're offended because Brian's offended, but Randy's the one who needs to grow up? Randy's been doing goofy things for a laugh for years, and that's all he's doing here. 

jazza167 wrote:
I couldn’t give a flying fuck about Brian…. Just pointing out a 60 year old trolling a 20 year old on social media is quite childish...

I couldn’t give a flying fuck about Brian…. Just pointing out a 60 year old trolling a 20 year old on social media is quite childish. I’m of the opinion social media should be left for the kids. 

MPJC wrote:
Why should social media be left to the kids? Sure, this was childish and silly - and that’s why it’s hilarious. It’s satire using recontextualization and...

Why should social media be left to the kids? Sure, this was childish and silly - and that’s why it’s hilarious. It’s satire using recontextualization and it’s quite clever and effective. If I was Haiden I’d be a good sport and laugh at myself - which exactly what I expect he’ll do someday when he looks back at some of the stuff he posts now. 

 

I just feel as though it was designed for children… the validation from strangers, over sharing your personal life to the world. I l find the whole concept strange to be honest, like one big vanity project. 

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