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That looks like a video error, especially if it was taken from a slow motion stream.
If the slow motion clip is running at quarter speed, creating the clip generally consists of the computer/phone generating 3 in between (fake) frames per original frame. This is really difficult to do correctly when there is a lot of fast movement in the video, and there's a lot of fast movement in this video.
I don't believe anyone could survive their neck getting into that position, let alone walk away questioning if anything is broken.
I can see his head in this position in the slow motion part of the video, but his body is off the ground at that point. I don't believe his head was ever in that position. It's just an error in creating the in-between frames for slow motion.
That makes sense. I didn’t take the screenshot, it was sent to me.
I hope this is the case. That's a scary image.
He never owed us anything. Not at the start, not in the middle, not now.
Completely his call.
Loved watching him race. And consider myself fortunate to have seen many of his great rides.
English MFer...... do you speak it?
i had a dream last night that he comes back from this injury...lines up...then lets everyone blast away. He cruises around for 2 laps just waving at the fans, pulls off, and hangs 'em up. He can't end his career on a stretcher, but I also can't imagine he wants to keep tempting fate. would be epic for him to go out by waving at fans and then head back to the trailer.
Dude ain't going out like that, and that's a fact!
Isn't this what Big James said?
Marchbanks :
"Me and Eli were just sprinting, he made a pass on me, I tried to make a pass back, racing accident, I didn’t mean to do that on purpose," he said in Title 24's post-race interviews on YouTube. "I thought he was going to let off and he probably thought I was going to let off and we both just hit each other. I feel really bad for what happened, I hope he’s doing okay. My bike was super jacked up and I had to come into the pit to fix it up."
I would support this 100%.
It looked like he ran square in to the back of him. Not a racing incident, lack of control or talent.
I disagree about the video error part. I see the same head position at full speed on my high res computer screen.
Slo mo isn't manufactured by AI or something, its simply plays the clips slower. I have made hundreds of vids...
For example, at 60 frames per second (fps) our eyes can't see all the frames...we see fluid motion. Slowed down, we can see more because they are simply played slower...think about fanning through a stack of cards...you will see some, but nowhere near all. Video it, and slow it down...you'll see alot more and slow enuf, eventually you'll see them all.
On regular (non-AI created) vids, the computers don't create imagery...they just play what they're sent.
That's wicked in the worst way. Hoping/praying there's no peripheral nerve damage, which can happen without a break
It's complicated.
If you already know this stuff, just ignore it. I'm describing it for anyone interested.
Most video recorded on phones is recorded at 30 frames per second. If you're playing it back at 30fps, you'll see the video as it was stored. It can still have errors, but slow motion creates additional challenges.
When the video is simply played back at 1/4 speed, the computer/phone playing back the video can do one of 2 things: Either show each frame 4 times, in which case, the video will not be smooth. It'll appear choppy. The second option is for the computer/phone can generate the in-between frames. It does more than just merge the frames. The better implementations will track individual objects, and also attempt to fill in the areas of the background that the movement of the objects exposes. This is also what happens when a TV states that it displays at 120 or 240Hz. The original video source for most, and all older movies provide only 24 fps, sports are up to 60, but no video source provides 120 or 240. In all of these cases, the player generates in-between frames. This makes the video playback smooth, but, depending on the algorithm used, the player or TV makes mistakes. The most difficult videos are when there is a lot of change in the scene or when the camera moves a lot. Motocross is really difficult.
If you make a new video that plays back in slow motion, the computer does the same thing, but it can do a better job, because it can take much longer, and more processing power to generate the frames. In either case, I've seen objects, or parts of objects be completely removed by an algorithm, or display where they shouldn't. That's my first guess as to what's happening here.
In memory and as saved to a file, video consists basically as a series of sets of: A complete image, followed by just the data required to turn the previous frame into the current frame. So, it'll store the entire first frame, then only the differences needed to convert the 1st frame to the 2nd, then from the 2nd to the 3rd, 3rd to 4th, etc... After a few seconds or many, it'll store another complete frame, followed by more incrementals.
In a fast moving scene, even when not in slow motion, the coder (part of the codec) can get confused. If this image, with Eli's head fully sideways, is visible when playing it back at full speed in the ORIGINAL video, my first thought is that his head in that position appeared at some point earlier in the stream. Because his body and head rotated a tremendous amount in just a second or two, the algorithm would have a hard time determining the motion and/or how to encode this efficiently. I believe most of us have seen strange things in the video feed for motocross races. Not so much with Peacock, but definitely with previous providers. This is why.
The only way to know for sure what happened would be to look at the original footage, without modification, especially if the camera was outputting the RAW images. I've had a few video cameras that stored the footage encoded, as well as the full RAW image of each frame. When that is available, it is unmodified, and you can see exactly what the camera saw at any point in the video.
I just hope and pray that Eli is alright. That crash was brutal.
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I'd definitely push for an MRI due to the mechanism of his injury.
spend the whole rest of the day taking pics with fans and autographs. It would be a super kickass way to hang 'em up, rather than a press release and press conference. Don't even tell anyone...just go off the gate slow, cruise around the track near the fences high-fiving people, waving at fans...then when the leaders get near to lap him, he could just pull off and ride off into the sunset.
Proper trauma workflow will involve both. CT for bones. MRI for soft tissue and, in the case of neck injury, the spinal cord itself (not the vertebrae).
Eli clearly did not have spinal chord damage. There's a lot of empirical evidence gathering from the moment he gets trackside assistance to the moment he's in the Asterisk Medical Unit to the trip to the hospital. They can make a lot of determinations along the way. This would include asking Eli a lot of questions to rule things out (e.g. abdomen pain, internal bleeding, etc...). They'll whip out an ultrasound first if they think even for a second a rider has internal bleeding.
If they are x-raying a bone in the medical unit it's probably to determine how urgently they need to get into surgery to fix it (e.g. displaced or not).
He clearly didn't have a spinal chord injury.
Nerves can be torn or even severed without breaking anything, especially the neck area. The small positive from the video is that he crawled off the track initially, instead of lying there immobile. Probably wouldn't have been able to do that with major nerve damage, even with adrenaline.
Yeah, Hell yeah! Have his kids do a parade lap with him!
He thought Eli was going to let off? Wtf the guy never let's off
Eli has had such speed still late in his career and bringing family to races would be a lot of fun. But after the last several crashes he has to ask if it's worth them seeing him get hurt much more vs. extending career. He's proven all there is to prove in moto and given us fans so many memories. IF he calls it, I sure hope there is something at a pro race to commemorate him. I would be on a plane to be there and applaud no matter how far. absolute legend and class act.
Hoping for a decent update from the crew this week. Even if nothing is broken,, necks and backs can be brutal. I head planted a tree dead on a few yrs ago. Was pretty sure I broke my neck and/or back. Ended up just coming out with a bad concussion and "possible minor nerve damage". That "minor nerve damage" was the most debilitating injury. I couldn't turn my head more than 5 degrees for like 3 months without feeling like someone stabbed me dead center in the back. That feeling persisted and came back at the weirdest most unopportune times for the better part of 18 months. If I sat still I felt like I could ride no problem, then I would take a funny step and be bed ridden for 2 days. I am not n alien like eli and hopefully thats enough that he can get back. I cant see him going out like this.
Marchbanks screwed the pooch on that one. He tries to play chicken with Tomac? Give me a break. Back off, dude! It was the first lap, and it is Tomac! That was a dumb racing move to say the least. He should have known better. Do better, Garrett! Although it's too late for that.
All you guys saying, "but it was a racing incident," are totally wrong. Never should have happened. Robbed Eli and all moto fans.
If my wife saw this photo, that would be the last time I would sit on a bike.
100% agree with kpiper!
WTF was Merchbanks on an ego trip or what! two races in a row ET3 is taken out by hacks; LCQ regular and guy who got a factory ride for being the best of the worse still available
This was one of the worse Tbones I have seen in a long time
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