Deegan, the next American Hero (or rather last hope)? My thoughts.

Flatliner wrote:

My comment about deegan being faster than vialle got a whole pile of dislikes.  Very surprised that many people think two years of actual results don't...

My comment about deegan being faster than vialle got a whole pile of dislikes.  Very surprised that many people think two years of actual results don't matter.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well...

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well he hasn’t done anything on a 450…yet.

Flatliner wrote:

My comment about deegan being faster than vialle got a whole pile of dislikes.  Very surprised that many people think two years of actual results don't...

My comment about deegan being faster than vialle got a whole pile of dislikes.  Very surprised that many people think two years of actual results don't matter.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well...

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well he hasn’t done anything on a 450…yet.

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well...

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well he hasn’t done anything on a 450…yet.

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

In the 250’s on tracks Vialle has never raced. But yes I can’t wait to see MX start, I’m tired of bench racing lol.

crusher773 wrote:

Nobody was anti Jett it was we were just tired of having him pushed on us so hard.  Why did we need to cut away from...

Nobody was anti Jett it was we were just tired of having him pushed on us so hard.  Why did we need to cut away from a 250 race to see him getting on his bike headed for the line.  It was getting stupid.  Speaking of stupid I don't care if Jett is from another country I won't ever root for Deegan over him.  Deegan is the worst in my opinion. He is right up there with Ronnie Mac when it comes to class 

shortty761 wrote:

Haha. You’ll probably be one of the guys standing in a 2 hour line for his autograph in a couple years. 

Mavetism wrote:

So I noticed something over the last years specially since Jett has moved up and some fans being very "anti Jett" and now recently the constant...

So I noticed something over the last years specially since Jett has moved up and some fans being very "anti Jett" and now recently the constant 250 career comparison with Deegan vs Jett and but comments like "Jett only had to beat privateers in 2023" really made me question this whole thing.
 

In 2022 we obviously all got to watch an all time season between Chase and Tomac and we all thought they had reached that "new level" we haven't seen before. Before Jett moved up (and even after his MXON debut) a lot of people were like: "Jett will race for third, he has no chance against Tomac and Chase". 

Then Tomacs injury happened (sadly) and Jett went undefeated with Chase not leading a single lap while still looking like he's been riding on the edge behind Jett just like he did in 2022. Even Chase himself said he felt like he was going even faster than in 2022. I literally saw people here commenting that he lied (wtf?) and they called bullshit on that. They couldn't handle that the guy who apparently reached the "next level" last year couldn't even make a pass attempt on Jett.

Then in 2024 when Chase won the MX title after Jett got injured the same people here were like: "Chase found that new level again outdoors, Jett won't have a chance when he comes back, he doesn't want any of that smoke". Then first race back and Jett immediately smoked everybody again.

Back to silence until 2025 where Jett missed SX and the same thing started again during the second half of the SX season: "That's the best Chase has ever looked on a dirt bike, Jett will found out once outdoors starts". And since Chase crashed at Pala and despite him still winning Washougal and the Ironman Moto I barely read any positive comments about him anymore, kinda like people gave up on him?

It felt like Chase was that "american hero" here for a lot of people who was supposed to beat Jett and the only hope for a couple years.

Since then this completely shifted towards Deegan. The timing is obviously perfect with him just finishing his impeccable 250 career. He is now supposed to be the guy and probably last american hope for an unforeseeable amount of time. You can tell the constant 250 career comparison and dick riding is already at an all time high. In their head there is no doubt that Deegan will "rise to the top", we haven't even seen him on a 450 yet for one MX race and some are already crowning him as the next guy. 

So I don't think most people are really "anti Jett", they just want americans to win more and I completely understand it. I think we should really appreciate what is happening right now, the hype is at an all time high and I haven't been this excited in a long time.

I hope "my thoughts" didn't annoy you guys and it wasn't too hard to read, I just wanted to get rid of it! 😅

 

vdrsnk04 wrote:

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well...

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well he hasn’t done anything on a 450…yet.

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

In the 250’s on tracks Vialle has never raced. But yes I can’t wait to see MX start, I’m tired of bench racing lol.

stewie94 wrote:

it’s not the anti Jett or I want an American to win narrative anymore , we’re at the point with Jett & deegs just being an...

it’s not the anti Jett or I want an American to win narrative anymore , we’re at the point with Jett & deegs just being an old fashion sports rivalry, the Pittsburgh Steelers / Cincinnati bengals , Chicago bears / Green Bay packers , Boston Celtics / La lakers , Yankees / Red Sox type rivalries, deegs fans don’t like Jett & Jett fans don’t like deegs 

kiwifan wrote:

To me that's the interesting thing, everybody keeps on labeling Jett Vs Haiden and they will be a big rivalry without them even racing together yet...

To me that's the interesting thing, everybody keeps on labeling Jett Vs Haiden and they will be a big rivalry without them even racing together yet, right now it should be Haiden vs everyone else until we know exactly how good he might be on the 450

deegan realist wrote:

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at...

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at WSX he was getting gapped by Craig lol. (Come on let’s hear the excuses) 

3strokemx wrote:

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a...

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a TikTok live referring to their stunt as a "Kangaroo Pouch", as he puts his phone down they will lock eyes, and for a moment all the noise and excitement will vanish to silence, stillness. The world will stop and become 2 men, athletes, competitors, in the prime of lives, beads of sweat glistening, legs bound in the same pants, faces inches away, lost in a moment

3strokemx wrote:

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a...

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a TikTok live referring to their stunt as a "Kangaroo Pouch", as he puts his phone down they will lock eyes, and for a moment all the noise and excitement will vanish to silence, stillness. The world will stop and become 2 men, athletes, competitors, in the prime of lives, beads of sweat glistening, legs bound in the same pants, faces inches away, lost in a moment

vdrsnk04 wrote:

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well...

It makes sense. Vialle has beat some of the best riders in the world already on his 450 this season in his first attempts. Deegan, well he hasn’t done anything on a 450…yet.

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

In the 250’s on tracks Vialle has never raced. But yes I can’t wait to see MX start, I’m tired of bench racing lol.

3strokemx wrote:

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a...

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a TikTok live referring to their stunt as a "Kangaroo Pouch", as he puts his phone down they will lock eyes, and for a moment all the noise and excitement will vanish to silence, stillness. The world will stop and become 2 men, athletes, competitors, in the prime of lives, beads of sweat glistening, legs bound in the same pants, faces inches away, lost in a moment

Amherst Lovingston wrote:

Deegan is definitely the top in this scenario 

3strokemx wrote:

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a...

At the podium Deegan will put his legs into Jett's pants while Jett is still wearing them, they will face each other as Deegan does a TikTok live referring to their stunt as a "Kangaroo Pouch", as he puts his phone down they will lock eyes, and for a moment all the noise and excitement will vanish to silence, stillness. The world will stop and become 2 men, athletes, competitors, in the prime of lives, beads of sweat glistening, legs bound in the same pants, faces inches away, lost in a moment

ShipLap wrote:

kiwifan wrote:

To me that's the interesting thing, everybody keeps on labeling Jett Vs Haiden and they will be a big rivalry without them even racing together yet...

To me that's the interesting thing, everybody keeps on labeling Jett Vs Haiden and they will be a big rivalry without them even racing together yet, right now it should be Haiden vs everyone else until we know exactly how good he might be on the 450

deegan realist wrote:

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at...

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at WSX he was getting gapped by Craig lol. (Come on let’s hear the excuses) 

ZinAZ wrote:

craig also gapped, webb, cooper, tomac and roczen....do those guys suck and are they over hyped too?

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

In the 250’s on tracks Vialle has never raced. But yes I can’t wait to see MX start, I’m tired of bench racing lol.

Johnny Ringo wrote:

He worked Tom in 2023 and neither of them had raced those tracks. Honestly the reverse split of Tom beating Deegs in SX And Deegs beating Tom...

He worked Tom in 2023 and neither of them had raced those tracks. 

Honestly the reverse split of Tom beating Deegs in SX And Deegs beating Tom in MX is bizarre 

Paradise Valley wrote:

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will...

Cause he beat Vialle like a drum for 2 years straight, he even admitted it, and to be honest everyone else on the gate.  We will see soon enough

vdrsnk04 wrote:

In the 250’s on tracks Vialle has never raced. But yes I can’t wait to see MX start, I’m tired of bench racing lol.

DonM wrote:

Come on man…really?  That’s weak since they have both raced the same number of Nationals on these tracks…But I’m with you lets get to the races...

Come on man…really?  That’s weak since they have both raced the same number of Nationals on these tracks…But I’m with you lets get to the races already! Sometimes on here reading some of these threads is like watching The View….just a bunch of old cackling hens blindly pushing narratives that don’t matter….3 days!

rogers wrote:

More like American ZERO.

deegan realist wrote:

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at...

Took the words right out of my mouth. Like if he does have the speed for Jett at round 1 then so be it. But at WSX he was getting gapped by Craig lol. (Come on let’s hear the excuses) 

ZinAZ wrote:

craig also gapped, webb, cooper, tomac and roczen....do those guys suck and are they over hyped too?

deegan realist wrote:

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not...

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not beat roczen. Good try tho

ZinAZ wrote:

craig also gapped, webb, cooper, tomac and roczen....do those guys suck and are they over hyped too?

deegan realist wrote:

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not...

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not beat roczen. Good try tho

ZinAZ wrote:

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the...

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the top 3 of that final full race.  

deegan realist wrote:

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not...

Anyone who watched moto knows that was not tomac, tomac went for the pay check and u can’t tell me other wise. And he did not beat roczen. Good try tho

ZinAZ wrote:

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the...

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the top 3 of that final full race.  

deegan realist wrote:

Stop using AI to create fake results bud 

ZinAZ wrote:

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the...

imagine being so wrong, when the information is out there for free.  race 3 australia.  CC, HD, KR in that order.........ET and rest fall outside the top 3 of that final full race.  

deegan realist wrote:

Stop using AI to create fake results bud 

Last2Stroke wrote:

deegan realist wrote:

Stop using AI to create fake results bud 

Last2Stroke wrote:

kxking wrote:

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops...

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops, announcers are talking about it, but they're showing KR as he passes for 4th place. No replay of the Deegan/Eli pass or anything.

Last2Stroke wrote:

kxking wrote:

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops...

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops, announcers are talking about it, but they're showing KR as he passes for 4th place. No replay of the Deegan/Eli pass or anything.

deegan realist wrote:

Who won the overall? Who got 6th overall?

8tensolutions wrote:

We need a villain in the sport and we have it with Haiden.  I would much rather see Tomac, Chase, or really anyone win the championships...

We need a villain in the sport and we have it with Haiden.  I would much rather see Tomac, Chase, or really anyone win the championships, but having Haiden in the fight makes it far more fun.  Watching Cole handle him at Salt Lake was almost as good as Kenny winning the title.  

kxking wrote:

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops...

Wow, so its not just Peacock that can't properly televise a race. Can't believe that with the crowd going nuts, HD passes ET in the whoops, announcers are talking about it, but they're showing KR as he passes for 4th place. No replay of the Deegan/Eli pass or anything.

deegan realist wrote:

Who won the overall? Who got 6th overall?

Johnny Ringo wrote:

We all know WSX results translate directly to 450 outdoor motocross. I’m glad you get it.

deegan realist wrote:

Who won the overall? Who got 6th overall?

Johnny Ringo wrote:

We all know WSX results translate directly to 450 outdoor motocross. I’m glad you get it.

deegan realist wrote:

Correct. He got 6th against a bunch of bums outside of the top 2 guys.