Lucas & Sacha Coenen to race pro motocross

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AC222 is also coming to race some MX races this summer. That is not the same as the Coenen brothers coming, but cool to see the...

AC222 is also coming to race some MX races this summer. That is not the same as the Coenen brothers coming, but cool to see the legend here again.

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So cool, 5y into retirement still wanting to race nationals and GPs to develop bike.Will be interesting to see what form he is in, he wasn't...

So cool, 5y into retirement still wanting to race nationals and GPs to develop bike.

Will be interesting to see what form he is in, he wasn't happy last time being out of shape I think he said. Champ mentality 😄

He's been training at Lommel the past days. I think he's serious about it 😁

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Prepare yourselves for the social media warfare between Coenen and Deegan before this race. Lucas is the only one that seems to play into Deegan’s game...

Prepare yourselves for the social media warfare between Coenen and Deegan before this race. Lucas is the only one that seems to play into Deegan’s game of social media clowning and he ultimately has made Deegan look bad to his crowd every time Deegan ducked racing MXoN against him. 

I expect the biggest “drama” to come from those two since the Lawrence camp aren’t playing into Deegan’s poking of the bear stuff (which I think is the better choice, tbh)

NicNak wrote:

That’s de wolf not coenen 

aeffertz wrote:

Ahh fuck. Wrong Euro 😞 

It'd be pretty cool if he came over for Southwick, too, though. Overlooking the entertainment with Deegan, dude's kinda good in the sand.

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Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike...

Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike and falling in love with the 4 stroke power and winning 5 world championships!

But how gifted do you need to be to become WC in MX, when you enter the sport at 18? That is the age some of his competitors where already racing GPs.

About Belgian wildcards, I think Desalle was the best with 2-2 in Unadilla. Everts went 5-5 back in 97 in Unadilla, struggling a bit with the production bike.

Everts scored 3/5 in Unadilla (1997), if I remember well...

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MXMattii wrote:
Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike...

Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike and falling in love with the 4 stroke power and winning 5 world championships!

But how gifted do you need to be to become WC in MX, when you enter the sport at 18? That is the age some of his competitors where already racing GPs.

About Belgian wildcards, I think Desalle was the best with 2-2 in Unadilla. Everts went 5-5 back in 97 in Unadilla, struggling a bit with the production bike.

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DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got...

DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got here. I want to say Everts went 3-5 or 5-3 he had the pace but crashed in one of the motos. He talked about how the Americans went balls to the walls from the drop of the gate. 

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Don't forget Marc De Reuver (sp?) in 08 .2nd fastest in practice  to JS, 3rd in the 1st Moto.Pranged in the second moto, and thought of...

Don't forget Marc De Reuver (sp?) in 08 .

2nd fastest in practice  to JS, 3rd in the 1st Moto.

Pranged in the second moto, and thought of his Real Job, that of the GPs, and stopped. 

'Big Ken' did a National, out of a van and with a borrowed bike. 

I wish some top US riders would have a go at a GP or two. But of course, 'they don't need to' will be trotted out...........

I do hope Tomac eventually has a go, as he's , at times, expressed a desire to do.

Exactly this. Always a lot of talk about Euros coming to the AMA nationals for a one-off and "not cutting it". Still waiting for a top AMA rider to do the trip over for a one-off GP; Jeff Stanton at Japan (1992?) must be the last one.?

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My biggest fear is they take out championship contenders going balls to the wall to try prove something.

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My biggest fear is they take out championship contenders going balls to the wall to try prove something.

As long as they don't go bam bam, it's fine. None of the are known to ride aggressive against others.

If the other riders determine they want to try and catch them but can't hang and crash, it's on that rider. Part of knowing your limits. I can see Deegan not letting it go for example.

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jaun wrote:

My biggest fear is they take out championship contenders going balls to the wall to try prove something.

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As long as they don't go bam bam, it's fine. None of the are known to ride aggressive against others.If the other riders determine they want...

As long as they don't go bam bam, it's fine. None of the are known to ride aggressive against others.

If the other riders determine they want to try and catch them but can't hang and crash, it's on that rider. Part of knowing your limits. I can see Deegan not letting it go for example.

I hope you're right, I can just see them going balls to the wall for a pass and not making the corner and wiping Prado or Jett out.

I don't think it will be aggressive but just out of control.

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NicNak wrote:

That’s de wolf not coenen 

aeffertz wrote:

Ahh fuck. Wrong Euro 😞 

Sully wrote:

It'd be pretty cool if he came over for Southwick, too, though. Overlooking the entertainment with Deegan, dude's kinda good in the sand.

De Wolf’s still building on the 450, but man he does some special shit that just leaves you awe struck in the same way Jett does.

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jaun wrote:

My biggest fear is they take out championship contenders going balls to the wall to try prove something.

aees wrote:
As long as they don't go bam bam, it's fine. None of the are known to ride aggressive against others.If the other riders determine they want...

As long as they don't go bam bam, it's fine. None of the are known to ride aggressive against others.

If the other riders determine they want to try and catch them but can't hang and crash, it's on that rider. Part of knowing your limits. I can see Deegan not letting it go for example.

jaun wrote:
I hope you're right, I can just see them going balls to the wall for a pass and not making the corner and wiping Prado or...

I hope you're right, I can just see them going balls to the wall for a pass and not making the corner and wiping Prado or Jett out.

I don't think it will be aggressive but just out of control.

They are both in their own championship hunt, so don't see them doing things to stupid.

But it's racing, anything can happen in the heat of the moment of course.

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Which one of them runs 111 and which one runs 103?

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NicNak wrote:

That’s de wolf not coenen 

aeffertz wrote:

Ahh fuck. Wrong Euro 😞 

Sully wrote:

It'd be pretty cool if he came over for Southwick, too, though. Overlooking the entertainment with Deegan, dude's kinda good in the sand.

Saw a different angle from this on twitter, insane haha

Credit to whoever got this shot

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DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got...

DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got here. I want to say Everts went 3-5 or 5-3 he had the pace but crashed in one of the motos. He talked about how the Americans went balls to the walls from the drop of the gate. 

That third place on a stock Honda was impressive!

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Really excited about the next few years of racing in the US. We had the RC/Reed/Stew era, then the Ryans, then the Eli/Roczen/Webb generation which lasted longer...

Really excited about the next few years of racing in the US. 

We had the RC/Reed/Stew era, then the Ryans, then the Eli/Roczen/Webb generation which lasted longer than most. But if Jett and Deegs stay fit and Lucas hits his potential and moves to the States full time, we could be in for some incredible seasons. People underesimate just how young this kid is, and could well have won the MXGP title at 18 as rookie if he had started the season fit. Even Jett was 20 when he won the 450 title. Just hope Lucas can adjust to supercross as well as Prado is and keep away from bad influences when he makes the move 

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Chase should be part of this conversation if he can get his head screwed on straight

Absolutely not, right now it would be stupid to count him in the concersation. That said, I sincerely think Lucas can be top 3 on all 3 nationals he attend, and he will win Southwick easily. Sasha, it’s a harder question, but the way he ride at Ironman for MXON last year was impressive, even tho the best 250 guy was Valin still Sasha was insanely fast and had such an amazing technique it was beautiful to watch. Both want to go to the US as soon as possible, and ill be honest i think and i hope that Roger is pushing to get them in the US they are Belgians as him so. 

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arebnac wrote:

EuroMX leaders Garcia and Cannon (the emx250 Kawasaki Team / Venum Bud) are also racing one of the rounds! (Southwick)

I dont understand how Garcia can be that fast on a 250, man is an absolute unit i mean he is tall and really strong he must weight way too much for that fucking Kawi still he start upfront and just destroy the bike to win it’s impressive to see him ride, while Canon is really smooth and light with the bike both will be super nice to see! 

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rsd47 wrote:
Really excited about the next few years of racing in the US. We had the RC/Reed/Stew era, then the Ryans, then the Eli/Roczen/Webb generation which lasted longer...

Really excited about the next few years of racing in the US. 

We had the RC/Reed/Stew era, then the Ryans, then the Eli/Roczen/Webb generation which lasted longer than most. But if Jett and Deegs stay fit and Lucas hits his potential and moves to the States full time, we could be in for some incredible seasons. People underesimate just how young this kid is, and could well have won the MXGP title at 18 as rookie if he had started the season fit. Even Jett was 20 when he won the 450 title. Just hope Lucas can adjust to supercross as well as Prado is and keep away from bad influences when he makes the move 

TAUTOG wrote:

Chase should be part of this conversation if he can get his head screwed on straight

Zsrr wrote:
Absolutely not, right now it would be stupid to count him in the concersation. That said, I sincerely think Lucas can be top 3 on all...

Absolutely not, right now it would be stupid to count him in the concersation. That said, I sincerely think Lucas can be top 3 on all 3 nationals he attend, and he will win Southwick easily. Sasha, it’s a harder question, but the way he ride at Ironman for MXON last year was impressive, even tho the best 250 guy was Valin still Sasha was insanely fast and had such an amazing technique it was beautiful to watch. Both want to go to the US as soon as possible, and ill be honest i think and i hope that Roger is pushing to get them in the US they are Belgians as him so. 

So you're saying a 450 motocross champ is not an elite rider? 

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TAUTOG wrote:

Chase should be part of this conversation if he can get his head screwed on straight

Zsrr wrote:
Absolutely not, right now it would be stupid to count him in the concersation. That said, I sincerely think Lucas can be top 3 on all...

Absolutely not, right now it would be stupid to count him in the concersation. That said, I sincerely think Lucas can be top 3 on all 3 nationals he attend, and he will win Southwick easily. Sasha, it’s a harder question, but the way he ride at Ironman for MXON last year was impressive, even tho the best 250 guy was Valin still Sasha was insanely fast and had such an amazing technique it was beautiful to watch. Both want to go to the US as soon as possible, and ill be honest i think and i hope that Roger is pushing to get them in the US they are Belgians as him so. 

TAUTOG wrote:
So you're saying a 450 motocross champ is not an elite rider? 

So you're saying a 450 motocross champ is not an elite rider? 

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He is and proved it, but since the start of 2026 and seeing his results and how he behave i would not count him as a contender for this summer. Maybe im wrong and i hope so, but i cant see him be a top 3 guys consistently. 

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NicNak wrote:

That’s de wolf not coenen 

aeffertz wrote:

Ahh fuck. Wrong Euro 😞 

Sully wrote:

It'd be pretty cool if he came over for Southwick, too, though. Overlooking the entertainment with Deegan, dude's kinda good in the sand.

Looks like lightening at the end of the clip. 

5/22/2026 2:08pm

I know this sounds crazy, but would Lucas be smart to throw the title this year if his goal is to come to the US full time in the future?  Unless I’m mistaken, MX1 champions are not eligible to race 250 SX.  I would imagine that much like Roczen, Lucas would be an immediate threat for a 250 title in Supercross.  Probably not so much in the 450 class.   He’s still so young, too.

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I know this sounds crazy, but would Lucas be smart to throw the title this year if his goal is to come to the US full...

I know this sounds crazy, but would Lucas be smart to throw the title this year if his goal is to come to the US full time in the future?  Unless I’m mistaken, MX1 champions are not eligible to race 250 SX.  I would imagine that much like Roczen, Lucas would be an immediate threat for a 250 title in Supercross.  Probably not so much in the 450 class.   He’s still so young, too.

It's actually crazy that this is even a topic.. You don't give up on a 450 MXGP title just so you can race 250 SX, on top of that he is way too big for the 250 now. It would be much smarter if they'd do selected 450 SX rounds or just the first half so he can get ready for 450 outdoors. But giving up on a MXGP title is some crazy work 🤣

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Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike...

Smets was indeed the hard working, showing tons of grit guy, starting MX at age 18 (EIGHTEEN), on a CR500. Jumping on a Husaberg enduro bike and falling in love with the 4 stroke power and winning 5 world championships!

But how gifted do you need to be to become WC in MX, when you enter the sport at 18? That is the age some of his competitors where already racing GPs.

About Belgian wildcards, I think Desalle was the best with 2-2 in Unadilla. Everts went 5-5 back in 97 in Unadilla, struggling a bit with the production bike.

Park Boys wrote:
DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got...

DeSalle got a third in a moto in 09 as well. 2013 he did pretty good too for how stacked that field was when he got here. I want to say Everts went 3-5 or 5-3 he had the pace but crashed in one of the motos. He talked about how the Americans went balls to the walls from the drop of the gate. 

Bearuno wrote:
Don't forget Marc De Reuver (sp?) in 08 .2nd fastest in practice  to JS, 3rd in the 1st Moto.Pranged in the second moto, and thought of...

Don't forget Marc De Reuver (sp?) in 08 .

2nd fastest in practice  to JS, 3rd in the 1st Moto.

Pranged in the second moto, and thought of his Real Job, that of the GPs, and stopped. 

'Big Ken' did a National, out of a van and with a borrowed bike. 

I wish some top US riders would have a go at a GP or two. But of course, 'they don't need to' will be trotted out...........

I do hope Tomac eventually has a go, as he's , at times, expressed a desire to do.

Shaun Simpson came over in 2015 too, finished 4th overall in the 450 class.

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What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP. Powers that be over there cant be too stoked. 

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What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP...

What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP. Powers that be over there cant be too stoked. 

USA rules man. We account for 30% of the world’s fake titties. Can’t blame em.

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What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP...

What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP. Powers that be over there cant be too stoked. 

USA rules man. We account for 30% of the world’s fake titties. Can’t blame em.

That's a crazy stat and I wouldn't even be surprised if that's true and not just a joke 😂😂

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What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP...

What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP. Powers that be over there cant be too stoked. 

USA rules man. We account for 30% of the world’s fake titties. Can’t blame em.

I'm here for it dawg! AMA sx and National's are going to be lit AF for the foreseeable future. Thats how the kids say it right? De Wolf don't you wanna get in on this!

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What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP...

What a loss to MXGP for these two to come to the States. Theyre insanely talented. Lawrence's 2.0? They would have been the future of MXGP. Powers that be over there cant be too stoked. 

USA rules man. We account for 30% of the world’s fake titties. Can’t blame em.

I'm here for it dawg! AMA sx and National's are going to be lit AF for the foreseeable future. Thats how the kids say it right...

I'm here for it dawg! AMA sx and National's are going to be lit AF for the foreseeable future. Thats how the kids say it right? De Wolf don't you wanna get in on this!

Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years from now. Absolutely disgusting.

Probably Tomac aswell at this point 😂

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USA rules man. We account for 30% of the world’s fake titties. Can’t blame em.

I'm here for it dawg! AMA sx and National's are going to be lit AF for the foreseeable future. Thats how the kids say it right...

I'm here for it dawg! AMA sx and National's are going to be lit AF for the foreseeable future. Thats how the kids say it right? De Wolf don't you wanna get in on this!

Mavetism wrote:
Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years...

Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years from now. Absolutely disgusting.

Probably Tomac aswell at this point 😂

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Mavetism wrote:
Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years...

Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years from now. Absolutely disgusting.

Probably Tomac aswell at this point 😂

Prado, lol? How did he do last season? 

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Mavetism wrote:
Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years...

Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years from now. Absolutely disgusting.

Probably Tomac aswell at this point 😂

Prado, lol? How did he do last season? 

He got off the worst run team in the paddock, now he has a chance and he will actually try.

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Mavetism wrote:
Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years...

Jett, Hunter, Deegan, Chase, Prado, Davies, Lucas, Shimoda and Jcoop.. and that's only the guys who I think can win races in the 450s 2-3 years from now. Absolutely disgusting.

Probably Tomac aswell at this point 😂

Prado, lol? How did he do last season? 

6th He beat Plessinger, Weeb, Sexton, M Stewart, Barcia & Ferrandis. So not too bad.

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