Lil Keefer racing nationals

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Nairb#70 wrote:

His Dad has 1 national point, from the 2004 125 west coast series with a 20th at Anaheim 3.

ARM670 wrote:

Not a National point. Don't get me wrong I would love to be able to say I got 20th at Anaheim, but its a reginal point.

I think your missing the point!

What point am I missing? As much as that sounds like a smart ass answer, its not. I like kris's perspective and wish his son the best and will follow, I just stated that it wasn't a national point.

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You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside...

You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside the top 10 in 250 B or schoolboy at the ranch.  If he can score a point this summer, it will show how much he’s improved recently.

2023 250B, I forgot he ruined it in 1 moto with a 30th but otherwise I remember he had great motos. Last year he had a 2nd place in a moto in the B class too.

We will see what happens. He should take this as a learning experience.

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I think it's super impressive that he has come this far because i remember when i saw riding videos of him 5+ years ago and i would've never thought this kid would line up at a Pro National.

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How old is he?

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Motofinne wrote:
I think it's super impressive that he has come this far because i remember when i saw riding videos of him 5+ years ago and i...

I think it's super impressive that he has come this far because i remember when i saw riding videos of him 5+ years ago and i would've never thought this kid would line up at a Pro National.

That's what I was saying. He just got serious about racing around 4yrs ago. Versus kids who've been living moto since they were 4yrs old and living at training facilities 

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jps256 wrote:

what is blood docs or blood dogs i hear keefer talking about?

It’s a joke from Pulp. If I remember right, Kris said he was going to stop supporting Aden in 2027 so he had to find his own support. Steve didn’t believe he would go through with pulling the support, so he signed a “blood doc” as a binding agreement

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You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside...

You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside the top 10 in 250 B or schoolboy at the ranch.  If he can score a point this summer, it will show how much he’s improved recently.

romain524 wrote:
2023 250B, I forgot he ruined it in 1 moto with a 30th but otherwise I remember he had great motos. Last year he had a...

2023 250B, I forgot he ruined it in 1 moto with a 30th but otherwise I remember he had great motos. Last year he had a 2nd place in a moto in the B class too.

We will see what happens. He should take this as a learning experience.

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Does Janik even race or have support anymore? What about Temmerman? The “nepotism” comment does have some merit when you look who gets support and who doesn’t. Hope he kills it and proves he deserves the spot. 

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jps256 wrote:

what is blood docs or blood dogs i hear keefer talking about?

Basically he made a promise to stop fully funding his kid's racing for all of eternity (maybe gave him one more year?). Said if his son wants it he'll have to make it happen on his own with limited support from his parents. I don't believe Keefer is some filthy rich dude who can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for his kid to chase the dream until he's 30 years old, it's a fair decision imo.

He also has a separate "blood doc" pact with Steve to do their life-swap gimmick, which no one gives a shit about and will ultimately be a huge letdown.

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jps256 wrote:

what is blood docs or blood dogs i hear keefer talking about?

Buckland wrote:
Basically he made a promise to stop fully funding his kid's racing for all of eternity (maybe gave him one more year?). Said if his son...

Basically he made a promise to stop fully funding his kid's racing for all of eternity (maybe gave him one more year?). Said if his son wants it he'll have to make it happen on his own with limited support from his parents. I don't believe Keefer is some filthy rich dude who can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for his kid to chase the dream until he's 30 years old, it's a fair decision imo.

He also has a separate "blood doc" pact with Steve to do their life-swap gimmick, which no one gives a shit about and will ultimately be a huge letdown.

 I know several people who are interested in Wife Swap.  Why do people always make stupid assumptions like they are facts?

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Madmax31 wrote:

 I know several people who are interested in Wife Swap.  Why do people always make stupid assumptions like they are facts?

I'm being hyperbolic to get my point across that as a pulp listener and fan, it's annoying to listen to. Glad you're excited for it, hope they deliver for you.

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5/6/2026 11:31am

You can bet that he's going to be excellent at giving good feedback to his mechanics. 

It feels "sntachy"

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You can bet that he's going to be excellent at giving good feedback to his mechanics. 

It feels "sntachy"

I hear the Honda has great Rideability. 

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Madmax31 wrote:

 I know several people who are interested in Wife Swap.  Why do people always make stupid assumptions like they are facts?

Buckland wrote:
I'm being hyperbolic to get my point across that as a pulp listener and fan, it's annoying to listen to. Glad you're excited for it, hope...

I'm being hyperbolic to get my point across that as a pulp listener and fan, it's annoying to listen to. Glad you're excited for it, hope they deliver for you.

Creepy Queefer strikes again...

Kris Keefer joins the list for VMXdN ...

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Juck wrote:

How old is he?

I believe he is 20.

Steve said 19 on the show 

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The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

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sandman768 wrote:
The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of...

The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

Some things will never change.

Want to get a shot? Be seen. Be in SoCal riding the same tracks the teams are testing on. Be there the same days they are. Show them direct to their eyeballs that you are putting in the work and can develop (not just you, also the bike).

Stop hiding at training facilities.

Was this way in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and still is this way today.

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sandman768 wrote:
The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of...

The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

Beta480RX wrote:
Some things will never change.Want to get a shot? Be seen. Be in SoCal riding the same tracks the teams are testing on. Be there the...

Some things will never change.

Want to get a shot? Be seen. Be in SoCal riding the same tracks the teams are testing on. Be there the same days they are. Show them direct to their eyeballs that you are putting in the work and can develop (not just you, also the bike).

Stop hiding at training facilities.

Was this way in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and still is this way today.

Didn’t realize that Phoenix Honda was a SoCal team….and here I thought that they were based in NC….who knew that they were hanging out at SoCal tracks….

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sandman768 wrote:
The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of...

The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

35 of the 48 riders that scored points in the 2025 250 Pro Motocross last season (21st or better in a moto) have some sort of a team ride right now. 

Of the remaining 13: 3 retired (Jeremy Martin, Mark Finies, and Stav Orland), 3 are still amateur, 1 is just a mystery (Ty Masterpool), 1 did a round for fun (Austin Black). A couple were apart of a small team that went away, etc.

Aden, like a good chunk of the kids on smaller support teams or a good team but are the new guy, isn’t making any money, it’s just an opportunity and see where it goes.

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sandman768 wrote:
The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of...

The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

ML512 wrote:
35 of the 48 riders that scored points in the 2025 250 Pro Motocross last season (21st or better in a moto) have some sort of...

35 of the 48 riders that scored points in the 2025 250 Pro Motocross last season (21st or better in a moto) have some sort of a team ride right now. 

Of the remaining 13: 3 retired (Jeremy Martin, Mark Finies, and Stav Orland), 3 are still amateur, 1 is just a mystery (Ty Masterpool), 1 did a round for fun (Austin Black). A couple were apart of a small team that went away, etc.

Aden, like a good chunk of the kids on smaller support teams or a good team but are the new guy, isn’t making any money, it’s just an opportunity and see where it goes.

And he did turn in some of the fastest laps at Loretta's last year.  Without a major issue in a moto, he would have been top 5 in one of his classes.  He's also been improving in SX Next.  Like ML said, many people don't think about the rides that so many of the other guys scoring points already have.  They have at least some support and it's not something they want to give up for the support of a Team for only a portion of the year with no future guarantee.

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5/7/2026 8:23am
You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside...

You’re confusing him with his dad.  His best finish (outside of the C class) at Loretta’s was a 7th in 450 B.  He’s never finished inside the top 10 in 250 B or schoolboy at the ranch.  If he can score a point this summer, it will show how much he’s improved recently.

romain524 wrote:
2023 250B, I forgot he ruined it in 1 moto with a 30th but otherwise I remember he had great motos. Last year he had a...

2023 250B, I forgot he ruined it in 1 moto with a 30th but otherwise I remember he had great motos. Last year he had a 2nd place in a moto in the B class too.

We will see what happens. He should take this as a learning experience.

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yak651 wrote:
Does Janik even race or have support anymore? What about Temmerman? The “nepotism” comment does have some merit when you look who gets support and who...

Does Janik even race or have support anymore? What about Temmerman? The “nepotism” comment does have some merit when you look who gets support and who doesn’t. Hope he kills it and proves he deserves the spot. 

He was at Sunset Ridge last fall when I was riding. He's coming off a nasty injury. He was still hobbling around and looked to be uncomfortable. He was still blazing fast though and didn't ride for very long. I don't know if he's racing or has support anymore? He's a good kid and has a good family. 

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DonM wrote:
Didn’t realize that Phoenix Honda was a SoCal team….and here I thought that they were based in NC….who knew that they were hanging out at SoCal...

Didn’t realize that Phoenix Honda was a SoCal team….and here I thought that they were based in NC….who knew that they were hanging out at SoCal tracks….

Phoenix isn't operating in a vacuum om the East Coast. If you all want to be that naive, keep your heads buried in the sand.

You want a ride with a support team, make the factory guys notice you and get the hook up. Ride where the test riders are riding. It's that simple.

If your only aspirations is to ride for ClubMX, then ride at ClubMX. If your aspirations are higher, better get out to Glen Helen on a Thursday and throw down. Find out where Tickle is riding and get there. See a KTM box truck heading to Pala? Get in your truck and go. Be seen by the test and development guys. The mechanics.  The managers. The guys who make the decisions, and influence who goes where. Yeah, you HAVE to play the "bro down" game.

Spinning laps at a compound and maybe doing one or two big races a year isn't cutting it. All that is doing is keeping the guys owning compounds and the big am races in business and parents broke. It isn't furthering anyone's riding career.

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5/7/2026 10:51am
Juck wrote:

How old is he?

I believe he is 20.

yak651 wrote:

Steve said 19 on the show 

No.  Randy Richardson did, and I’m pretty sure he’s wrong.

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DonM wrote:
Didn’t realize that Phoenix Honda was a SoCal team….and here I thought that they were based in NC….who knew that they were hanging out at SoCal...

Didn’t realize that Phoenix Honda was a SoCal team….and here I thought that they were based in NC….who knew that they were hanging out at SoCal tracks….

Beta480RX wrote:
Phoenix isn't operating in a vacuum om the East Coast. If you all want to be that naive, keep your heads buried in the sand.You want...

Phoenix isn't operating in a vacuum om the East Coast. If you all want to be that naive, keep your heads buried in the sand.

You want a ride with a support team, make the factory guys notice you and get the hook up. Ride where the test riders are riding. It's that simple.

If your only aspirations is to ride for ClubMX, then ride at ClubMX. If your aspirations are higher, better get out to Glen Helen on a Thursday and throw down. Find out where Tickle is riding and get there. See a KTM box truck heading to Pala? Get in your truck and go. Be seen by the test and development guys. The mechanics.  The managers. The guys who make the decisions, and influence who goes where. Yeah, you HAVE to play the "bro down" game.

Spinning laps at a compound and maybe doing one or two big races a year isn't cutting it. All that is doing is keeping the guys owning compounds and the big am races in business and parents broke. It isn't furthering anyone's riding career.

actually I believe the SMX Next program has helped a lot of riders go to the next level and the teams are putting more emphasis on the results in those races that LL now….oh yeah and those races are all in front of the all the team managers…the narrative of two races a year and only riding at compounds is very 5 yrs ago….pretty sure that riders like Cole Davies, Drew Adams, Julien Beaumer are a few that earned their rides through that system than riding at GH….

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I believe he is 20.

yak651 wrote:

Steve said 19 on the show 

No.  Randy Richardson did, and I’m pretty sure he’s wrong.

Could’ve been, know I heard someone say 19

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yak651 wrote:

Steve said 19 on the show 

No.  Randy Richardson did, and I’m pretty sure he’s wrong.

yak651 wrote:

Could’ve been, know I heard someone say 19

Bruh, Google it.  He’s 20.

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No.  Randy Richardson did, and I’m pretty sure he’s wrong.

yak651 wrote:

Could’ve been, know I heard someone say 19

Bruh, Google it.  He’s 20.

Ok bro, was just saying what I heard. You should call in to pulp to correct them, seems pretty important to you 

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5/7/2026 1:05pm

I’ll be rooting for AK47 to do well this summer. Seen him a bunch at GH doing motos during the week. Kid rips. 

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DunnySeat wrote:

I could see him slotting in 15-20 by the end of the season.

I think he will score a point here or there but 15-20 consistently by the end of the season would be impressive. Over 20 factory bikes...

I think he will score a point here or there but 15-20 consistently by the end of the season would be impressive. Over 20 factory bikes will be racing. 

He will have to go thru 15 factory Star riders just to get top 20

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sandman768 wrote:
The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of...

The Bro down in moto never ceases to amaze me…..I”m sure this kid is fast and maybe even warrants a shot…but it makes me think of all the east coast guys that have to practically finish top 10 to even get a sniff of a support ride…..

Unfortunately it isn’t just moto. At my work, those with an opinion and the chops to be respected in the trenches get crapped on, and those who are useless in the field but wear out the most knee pads get promoted.

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