Prado at Elsinore today

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4/25/2026 2:37pm

The fuck it does, obviously you haven’t ridden there.

Brent wrote:
The track does not get rough as compared to a national motocross track or an MXGP circuit.The curbs and square edges get to a certain point...

The track does not get rough as compared to a national motocross track or an MXGP circuit.

The curbs and square edges get to a certain point and then dries out. 

FYI I have been racing and training at LEMX since 2000. 

It literally feels like you’re riding on concrete. Then when they water it, it feels like you’re riding on ice. It never gets rough or choppy...

It literally feels like you’re riding on concrete. Then when they water it, it feels like you’re riding on ice. It never gets rough or choppy. It’s probably the least rough tracks in all of socal. 

It typically provides a goat trail to aim for. Blue groove concrete on the trail. Like riding on a plowed field if you go outside it.

One of the worst experiences riding it when I have been there.

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4/25/2026 10:06pm
Brent wrote:
The track does not get rough as compared to a national motocross track or an MXGP circuit.The curbs and square edges get to a certain point...

The track does not get rough as compared to a national motocross track or an MXGP circuit.

The curbs and square edges get to a certain point and then dries out. 

FYI I have been racing and training at LEMX since 2000. 

It literally feels like you’re riding on concrete. Then when they water it, it feels like you’re riding on ice. It never gets rough or choppy...

It literally feels like you’re riding on concrete. Then when they water it, it feels like you’re riding on ice. It never gets rough or choppy. It’s probably the least rough tracks in all of socal. 

aees wrote:
It typically provides a goat trail to aim for. Blue groove concrete on the trail. Like riding on a plowed field if you go outside it.One...

It typically provides a goat trail to aim for. Blue groove concrete on the trail. Like riding on a plowed field if you go outside it.

One of the worst experiences riding it when I have been there.

No it definitely sucks, but it can get pretty chunky and rutty. Definitely not a speedway like some people are suggesting 

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LP31 wrote:
I think he wins the opener.Jett wont be 100%Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSXHunta will be goodET no ideaSexton maybe on a...

I think he wins the opener.

Jett wont be 100%
Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSX

Hunta will be good

ET no idea

Sexton maybe on a Star Yam…

You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at all…if we go by your logic Mookie should be leading the points based on Paris…

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prozach wrote:
15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in...

15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in sx?  He has rarely been in the top 5 and has as many races outside the top ten as in.  And that's with starting top five almost every race.  

He should be better outdoors.  I'm hoping he is battling for wins constantly.  Not sure he will be contending for the title in his second year though.  

You realise SX isn't his main focus right now? He has nothing further to gain in SX this year & honestly he got lucky with that crash/injury earlier this year when he got away lucky. Now he &the team are riding out the sx rounds taking no risks and all their focus is on outdoor prep. Its no surprise his sx results have tapered off.
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LP31 wrote:
I think he wins the opener.Jett wont be 100%Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSXHunta will be goodET no ideaSexton maybe on a...

I think he wins the opener.

Jett wont be 100%
Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSX

Hunta will be good

ET no idea

Sexton maybe on a Star Yam…

DonM wrote:
You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at...

You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at all…if we go by your logic Mookie should be leading the points based on Paris…

I just think you guys get a bit carried away.

Rides the 450 like a 250 revving it to the moon.

I think he will be running off the track and over riding the bike. Playing games trying to cut people off.

Think ET, Jett, Hunta and Prado will be better.

Im a huge Ken Roczen fan as well as the aussie boys too.

After what Kenny has been through its only fitting that he wins the SX title.

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prozach wrote:
15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in...

15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in sx?  He has rarely been in the top 5 and has as many races outside the top ten as in.  And that's with starting top five almost every race.  

He should be better outdoors.  I'm hoping he is battling for wins constantly.  Not sure he will be contending for the title in his second year though.  

POWLEY256 wrote:
Considering the fact just about everyone hes racing sx against has been riding sx tracks since they were on 85s and he hadnt touched a sx...

Considering the fact just about everyone hes racing sx against has been riding sx tracks since they were on 85s and he hadnt touched a sx track up until a couple years ago to even be in the top 10 is impressive especially straight in on a 450. 
Then the fact hes showing top 3 level speed most weekends is pretty unreal and shows he has the potential to be a championship contender in the coming years. 
He’s openly said hes not going to push in sx as he needs to learn  

You realize about the only one that was riding SX on 85s was Deegs, the rest of these guys the closest thing was Mini Os SX which is just a small track with jumps everyone can do, right?

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4/27/2026 5:16am

Its going to be epic summer jett-deegs-prado. add hunter, sexton , tomac? ,roczen. Lets the good times roll. 

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4/27/2026 5:33am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2026 5:35am
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Its going to be epic summer jett-deegs-prado. add hunter, sexton , tomac? ,roczen. Lets the good times roll. 

Dude who do ya think wins motos this season outdoors in 450s?


Who takes the 250s?

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prozach wrote:
15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in...

15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in sx?  He has rarely been in the top 5 and has as many races outside the top ten as in.  And that's with starting top five almost every race.  

He should be better outdoors.  I'm hoping he is battling for wins constantly.  Not sure he will be contending for the title in his second year though.  

POWLEY256 wrote:
Considering the fact just about everyone hes racing sx against has been riding sx tracks since they were on 85s and he hadnt touched a sx...

Considering the fact just about everyone hes racing sx against has been riding sx tracks since they were on 85s and he hadnt touched a sx track up until a couple years ago to even be in the top 10 is impressive especially straight in on a 450. 
Then the fact hes showing top 3 level speed most weekends is pretty unreal and shows he has the potential to be a championship contender in the coming years. 
He’s openly said hes not going to push in sx as he needs to learn  

"he hadnt touched a sx track up until a couple years ago . . ."

He has been training for SX in the off seasons with US Red Bull KTM since he was 14 years old. There are videos of him riding SX on the KTM track on a 125 in 2014. I don't know how you guys come up with this stuff.

 

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You guys are underestimating him outdoors. He will holeshots a number of Motos and I see him potentially winning a few Motos and being on the podium a lot. This isn't SX.

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karsmakers wrote:
You guys are underestimating him outdoors. He will holeshots a number of Motos and I see him potentially winning a few Motos and being on the...

You guys are underestimating him outdoors. He will holeshots a number of Motos and I see him potentially winning a few Motos and being on the podium a lot. This isn't SX.

I hope so because that would add a lot of excitement, but his second half to sx has been pretty damn bad.

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My take-away: Sounds like someone in this thread got handled by a XR200 at Elsinore and is salty about it... 😂

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4/28/2026 6:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/28/2026 6:32pm
DonM wrote:
You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at...

You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at all…if we go by your logic Mookie should be leading the points based on Paris…

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dood literally bites on EVERY cast.... loll

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4/28/2026 7:14pm

All I've seen of Prado in America is starting up front and fading to mid pack.  Why would that change starting in May?

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DonM wrote:
You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at...

You base your opinion on one pre-season race that was a dust bowl…and yet don’t factor in anything he has done since…no you're not biased at all…if we go by your logic Mookie should be leading the points based on Paris…

gt80rider wrote:

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dood literally bites on EVERY cast.... loll

Apparently you're my new stalker….

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All I've seen of Prado in America is starting up front and fading to mid pack.  Why would that change starting in May?

aldon's got him on MindFX. /s

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He’s going to holeshot and ride his fking ass off to prove a point. 

Yes his supercross results don’t look so great on paper. But his qualifying and most heat races are pretty damn impressive. That’s closer to what he is practicing on. The main is a whole different situation you can’t prepare for.  

If you disagree watch last weekends qualifying. 

Outdoors I can see him fading towards the end, and as the tracks develop. But I expect him to be in the top 3 for 80-90% of the race. 

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I don't think there has been as many potential moto winners behind Jett, ever. Hunter, Prado, Tomac, JC, Deegan, Roczen when in. I think Sexton isnt a candidate on the kawi. High chance that at least one of these other guys has a favorite track or really good day/bike setup, for every race. Add in Lucas Cohnen for 3 races possibly.

So constant podium and occasional win might be more important than ever this season.

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All I've seen of Prado in America is starting up front and fading to mid pack.  Why would that change starting in May?

Because he's on a ktm now.

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LP31 wrote:
I think he wins the opener.Jett wont be 100%Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSXHunta will be goodET no ideaSexton maybe on a...

I think he wins the opener.

Jett wont be 100%
Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSX

Hunta will be good

ET no idea

Sexton maybe on a Star Yam…

It’s wild to count Deegan out in mx when basing it on a supercross race on the other side of the world when he is probably one of the best mx riders ever on a 250… He’s literally an outdoors specialist. That’s like saying Coop will never be in the mix in SX based on his outdoor results.

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All I've seen of Prado in America is starting up front and fading to mid pack.  Why would that change starting in May?

I feel like it's kind of dangerous to spend months supposedly "being careful" then try to convince yourself to turn it up to 11 because it's outdoors and you have to prove something now.

I don't see it going well. Maybe I'm wrong.

Side note, Elsinore hasn't changed a bit 🤣. I'd love to get back out there though, been a couple years.

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Could Prado have gone into the 250 class when he came to USA?  Maybe he should have.  Lots of  guys from Europe worked up from 250 to 450.  If Kawi had him on the PC team, he probably would’ve had some wins last year

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Could Prado have gone into the 250 class when he came to USA?  Maybe he should have.  Lots of  guys from Europe worked up from 250...

Could Prado have gone into the 250 class when he came to USA?  Maybe he should have.  Lots of  guys from Europe worked up from 250 to 450.  If Kawi had him on the PC team, he probably would’ve had some wins last year

Outdoors yes, but his 450 GP titles disqualify him from racing one in SX.

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VHM wrote:

i realize how sweaty this sounds, but after watching that, i'm pretty convinced that deegan actually is going to beat him. idk, just my gut. not a big fan of either one btw. 

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LP31 wrote:
I think he wins the opener.Jett wont be 100%Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSXHunta will be goodET no ideaSexton maybe on a...

I think he wins the opener.

Jett wont be 100%
Deegs who knows wasnt that fast at Gold Coast WSX

Hunta will be good

ET no idea

Sexton maybe on a Star Yam…

Breaking Media; Sexton to Star.  Stamp it.  😬 

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prozach wrote:
15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in...

15, 13, 4, 13, 7.  His results the last five sx races.  Not horrible.  But saying he is killing it and improving more than expected in sx?  He has rarely been in the top 5 and has as many races outside the top ten as in.  And that's with starting top five almost every race.  

He should be better outdoors.  I'm hoping he is battling for wins constantly.  Not sure he will be contending for the title in his second year though.  

Hes done 18 sx races in his entire life, jumping straight to the 450 class. Deegz will have almost 30 just on a 250 before moving to the premier class. Jorge's results are wildly inconsistent . But plenty of times he's run up front and really doesn't look out of place. Considering its basically his first full sx season I think he's done quite well. Not so much by reaults but by potential. I guess it depends what your expectations of him were

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I would think maybe he suffers some from not going full attack mode getting heart rate up there with lead group. Deegan has physical side going for home in 35min in heat.

But we will see clear trends. If lap times are up there and Prado can lead half of the race it will come to him In a few races.

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All I've seen of Prado in America is starting up front and fading to mid pack.  Why would that change starting in May?

Tyler D wrote:

aldon's got him on MindFX. /s

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