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4/22/2026 9:52am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 9:52am
Perky wrote:
Your takes are usually pretty bad but what do you suggest? Is it really that hard to empathize with someone having property stolen that was the...

Your takes are usually pretty bad but what do you suggest? Is it really that hard to empathize with someone having property stolen that was the physical embodiment of a collective effort of time and money?

I didn't say I didn't empathize with them. I said calling for someone to have their hands cut off for stealing some motocross bikes is extreme...

I didn't say I didn't empathize with them. I said calling for someone to have their hands cut off for stealing some motocross bikes is extreme, and I would argue a retrogade step. If you'd like to live in a society like that...well, that's up to you. 

cwel11 wrote:
Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock...

Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock everything I own because a scumbag can’t get a job, stay off drugs, and make wise decisions like buying their own toys. Decent people have run out of patience and tolerance with this garbage. 

I don't think there is any evidence that harsher penalties reduce crime. 

 

For instance, states with the death penalty generally have higher murder rates than those without.

 

Most crime is the symptom of other issues.

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Blake522 wrote:

Well I stalked you for about 100’ till you made it in fucking apartments they decided to build that overlooks a part of my yard… bastards. 

truck wrote:

Paintball guns are perfect for this situation

TeamGreen wrote:

Rolling at them with REALLY bright lights seems to work, too. You learn this one ranching 🤣

I always got a kick out of "Doggie Deployment" along with the spotlight.

It's a trip how smart people can get and how quickly once they hear the dogs coming.

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Crime is is on a all time high and getting worse.Medieval and draconian punishments are probably the only things that may deter these bastards from doing...

Crime is is on a all time high and getting worse.

Medieval and draconian punishments are probably the only things that may deter these bastards from doing what they do.

Its really bad in S Africa. They'll break in, kill the men, rape the woman and little girls, then kill them before cleaning the place out.

 

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FBI???

How would they know if someone broke into my shed and stole a lawnmower last night?

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

FBI???

How would they know if someone broke into my shed and stole a lawnmower last night?

At the top of the chart it notes "reported crimes".

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

FBI???

How would they know if someone broke into my shed and stole a lawnmower last night?

RichieW13 wrote:

At the top of the chart it notes "reported crimes".

Yeah, I'm not trying to be an ass.

I saw that, but at the bottom it says the source is the FBI, they aren't usually involved in local property crime stuff unless it's some big theft ring, right? 

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4/22/2026 10:13am
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

FBI???

How would they know if someone broke into my shed and stole a lawnmower last night?

RichieW13 wrote:

At the top of the chart it notes "reported crimes".

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Yeah, I'm not trying to be an ass.I saw that, but at the bottom it says the source is the FBI, they aren't usually involved in...

Yeah, I'm not trying to be an ass.

I saw that, but at the bottom it says the source is the FBI, they aren't usually involved in local property crime stuff unless it's some big theft ring, right? 

The FBI compiles crime statistics from local agencies.

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-informati…

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4/22/2026 10:45am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 10:46am

Yep, I knew this was coming. 

Some bikes being stolen - cue calls for a range of medieval era punishments and tortures...

truck wrote:
As I've said before, cut off their hands with anesthesia and a proper amputation. I'm not a monster. Nothing medieval about it. Real simple to never...

As I've said before, cut off their hands with anesthesia and a proper amputation. I'm not a monster. Nothing medieval about it. Real simple to never find yourself in that situation. 

If you want me to go there, cut off their junk so they can't reproduce too. 

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Wolfman how much stuff have you had stolen before ? Just curious.  I'm self employed and had my work truck and all my tools stolen before...

Wolfman how much stuff have you had stolen before ? Just curious.  I'm self employed and had my work truck and all my tools stolen before, (plus my kids bicycle and skateboard out of the garage).  So I understand where truck is coming from. The bicycle and skateboard ? Yeah ok whatever life goes on. Stealing my way to make a living ? Now we're getting into some serious fuck you...    I don't agree with truck though, mainly because it will render them next to useless and here in good ol' California that means we'll have to pay for the asshole to live. Plus fuck anesthesia that shits expensive.  I'd rather see the pinkys come off with garden shears for their first offense, 2nd round you lose the thumbs. If there's a 3rd time well then fuck it just put a bullet in their head. They're not going to get it and are nothing but a burden on everyone at that point.  So how much stuff have you had stolen ? 

So I'm guessing no reply to this means that no, you've never had something stolen that cost you THOUSANDS of your hard earned dollars to replace ? Maybe someone should steal a couple bikes from you to give you a better understanding of the viewpoints from those in here that you disagree with. You might have a better grasp of the hatred that most of us feel towards thieves.  And make no mistake, even though everyone hates the word "hate" nowadays 😛 I fucking HATE thieves, hate. Hate like in I don't care if they die tomorrow hate. Fuckem  

 

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How does it feel being unequivocally the biggest dork on this site? 

ShellyMX wrote:

He’s running neck and neck with El_Gayo.

Highly doubt that one. 

The Wolf Girl is insufferable. 

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Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head off to work a night shift after someone has come onto your property and stolen from you. No amount of money restores what is taken in situations like that. 

I'm with sumdood.... if you're willing to to violate people in that way, I don't care at all if the rest of your life is destroyed by it. Most people manage to make it through life without it ever being an issue, it's not a big ask to just not steal from people. 

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4/22/2026 11:38am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2026 11:39am
truck wrote:
Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head...

Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head off to work a night shift after someone has come onto your property and stolen from you. No amount of money restores what is taken in situations like that. 

I'm with sumdood.... if you're willing to to violate people in that way, I don't care at all if the rest of your life is destroyed by it. Most people manage to make it through life without it ever being an issue, it's not a big ask to just not steal from people. 

Yeah there's that too. 

When I was young my Grandma died and I inherited $100.00.  Just enough to go down to the local Schwinn shop and buy the root beer brown varsity 10 speed I wanted for a long time. I had a chain wrapped in an old inner tube and padlock that I wrapped around the seat post. I wouldn't leave it unlocked anywhere, that thing was my pride and joy, as well as my freedom. One night thieves broke into our garage and cut through the 2x4 wooden bench I had it locked too. (Duh) That was when my hatred for thieves kicked in big time. It's easy to downplay someone's reaction to stealing if you haven't been a victim yourself.   

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number six wrote:
Some interesting thoughts here regarding crime & punishment.  Like a lot of life ; it's matter of degrees & perspective, pretty sure thats why the court...

Some interesting thoughts here regarding crime & punishment.  
Like a lot of life ; it's matter of degrees & perspective, pretty sure thats why the court system exists. 
Imagine for a moment that it's your  teenage or young adult child who's the offender .. do you still call for their limbs to be removed ?  

I had a neighbor kid & his buddies steal a boat from me many years ago, 5 months later the Sheriffs office contacted me & they'd recovered my property & that of others, they asked if I wanted to press charges.  I did. 
Kids father came over & begged me not to pursue pressing charges for the theft,  I declined.
The court mandated he pay restitution for my loss & he now had a felony conviction on his record, I'd venture that mistake on his part likely cost him significantly as his life progressed in the form of employment opportunities, ability to get a loan & so on , a lifetime sentence of sorts. 
Aside from the initial outrage of having my boat stolen, the episode had zero effect on my life or standard of living, pretty sure that the resulting legal action had a significant effect on that kids future. 
There's a long list of things I'd have done differently if I'd have known then what I know now.    
  

I understand what you’re saying but also the difficulties the kid faces or the hurdles he has to cross are all consequences of his actions. If he has a decent head on his shoulders he would hopefully accept that, learn from it and move forward. Will things be harder for him now? I’m positive they will but that doesn’t prevent him from finding success. He might have to take a different route but again, actions have consequences. 
What would that kid have learned had you let him off easy and chose to not press charges? 

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4/22/2026 12:04pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Rolling at them with REALLY bright lights seems to work, too. You learn this one ranching 🤣

That explains why I’ve seen that on Yellowstone several times! Lol 

Pretty damn intimidating for sure 

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truck wrote:
Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head...

Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head off to work a night shift after someone has come onto your property and stolen from you. No amount of money restores what is taken in situations like that. 

I'm with sumdood.... if you're willing to to violate people in that way, I don't care at all if the rest of your life is destroyed by it. Most people manage to make it through life without it ever being an issue, it's not a big ask to just not steal from people. 

It's the combination of theft and trespassing in those situation that makes it so bad. Nobody should be shoplifting from Walmart but there's a big difference between not scanning an item at the self checkout at Walmart and a theft that includes a home invasion. If someone has come onto your property to steal you should be entitled to assume that they will harm you and thus be allowed protect yourself any way necessary, including lethal force. This is were Canada really has things wrong. We have very little right to defend ourselves from criminals. You pretty much have to wait until they are literally about to kill you before you can respond with force without facing legal consequences. It's ridiculous - here's an example of what I'm talking about 

https://driving.ca/auto-news/local-content/toronto-police-car-theft-leave-keys-door-stolen

 

I'm a big fan of protection dogs. A couple of 100 pound German Shepherds taking a few chunks out of a thief might make them rethink their life choices. 

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So clicking on the links in the original post it says all the stolen property has been recovered.

Does anybody know if there were arrests made?

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truck wrote:
Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head...

Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head off to work a night shift after someone has come onto your property and stolen from you. No amount of money restores what is taken in situations like that. 

I'm with sumdood.... if you're willing to to violate people in that way, I don't care at all if the rest of your life is destroyed by it. Most people manage to make it through life without it ever being an issue, it's not a big ask to just not steal from people. 

MPJC wrote:
It's the combination of theft and trespassing in those situation that makes it so bad. Nobody should be shoplifting from Walmart but there's a big difference...

It's the combination of theft and trespassing in those situation that makes it so bad. Nobody should be shoplifting from Walmart but there's a big difference between not scanning an item at the self checkout at Walmart and a theft that includes a home invasion. If someone has come onto your property to steal you should be entitled to assume that they will harm you and thus be allowed protect yourself any way necessary, including lethal force. This is were Canada really has things wrong. We have very little right to defend ourselves from criminals. You pretty much have to wait until they are literally about to kill you before you can respond with force without facing legal consequences. It's ridiculous - here's an example of what I'm talking about 

https://driving.ca/auto-news/local-content/toronto-police-car-theft-leave-keys-door-stolen

 

I'm a big fan of protection dogs. A couple of 100 pound German Shepherds taking a few chunks out of a thief might make them rethink their life choices. 

Here in California the thieves would sue for being injured from your dog! It's bad here to!

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truck wrote:

Paintball guns are perfect for this situation

W/ pepper spray filled balls of course

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Its amazing how many people are sympathetic towards thieves. 

Glad they got their goods back! Ive had a few things stolen over the years. The only thing that has truly stopped theft for me, has been a fence and a well trained, territorial dog. We've been solid for over 10 years now. 

Sidenote: An attorney advised me to never put up beware of dog signs. In court, they can use it as an admittance of a dangerous dog.

 

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Its amazing how many people are sympathetic towards thieves. Glad they got their goods back! Ive had a few things stolen over the years. The only thing...

Its amazing how many people are sympathetic towards thieves. 

Glad they got their goods back! Ive had a few things stolen over the years. The only thing that has truly stopped theft for me, has been a fence and a well trained, territorial dog. We've been solid for over 10 years now. 

Sidenote: An attorney advised me to never put up beware of dog signs. In court, they can use it as an admittance of a dangerous dog.

 

Your last sentence says it all. We have attorneys that protect the lowlifes, great.........

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sumdood wrote:

Your last sentence says it all. We have attorneys that protect the lowlifes, great.........

Dood, a double entendre? 😆 or is it irony?

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truck wrote:
Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head...

Don't make the mistake of reducing the impact of theft to a dollar amount. Try telling your wife and kids to sleep tight when you head off to work a night shift after someone has come onto your property and stolen from you. No amount of money restores what is taken in situations like that. 

I'm with sumdood.... if you're willing to to violate people in that way, I don't care at all if the rest of your life is destroyed by it. Most people manage to make it through life without it ever being an issue, it's not a big ask to just not steal from people. 

sumdood wrote:
Yeah there's that too. When I was young my Grandma died and I inherited $100.00.  Just enough to go down to the local Schwinn shop and buy...

Yeah there's that too. 

When I was young my Grandma died and I inherited $100.00.  Just enough to go down to the local Schwinn shop and buy the root beer brown varsity 10 speed I wanted for a long time. I had a chain wrapped in an old inner tube and padlock that I wrapped around the seat post. I wouldn't leave it unlocked anywhere, that thing was my pride and joy, as well as my freedom. One night thieves broke into our garage and cut through the 2x4 wooden bench I had it locked too. (Duh) That was when my hatred for thieves kicked in big time. It's easy to downplay someone's reaction to stealing if you haven't been a victim yourself.   



We lived in a very safe neighborhood where everyone knew everyone. We never locked our garage door. We had a minibike that was my older brothers. That was passed down through our family and my RM100. I chained them together just so know one could just walk in the garage and take them. One morning my Dad woke me up and asked if I left the garage door open. He went out there, looked and both bikes were gone. It snowed that night about a half inch. We followed tracks down the sidewalk around the corner and ended at the next corner, where I assumed they loaded them into truck. My Dad said to keep walking down the street and that we might see something. We got to the next block and found tracks on the sidewalk and followed them up a driveway into another garage. We went in found the minibike and dirtbike. It turned out it was some  a holes that were out partying that night and decided they wanted a motor for their gocart. After that night it changed how we lived. The garage door was always closed, locked and we were suspicious if anyone looked up our driveway. It sure changes how you think of people after something like this happens to you.

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Agreed, and in my limited experience, no matter where you live in the country the thieves usually come from Ohio. They have some low life mofos over there.

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usp4u1 wrote:
• Luis Anderson Cleto, 23, Bronx, NY• Antonio Dejesus Correamena, 38, Bronx, NY• Axel Estevez-Gonzalez, 22, Bronx, NY• Oscar Estevez-Gonzalez, 32, Bronx, NY...

• Luis Anderson Cleto, 23, Bronx, NY
• Antonio Dejesus Correamena, 38, Bronx, NY
• Axel Estevez-Gonzalez, 22, Bronx, NY
• Oscar Estevez-Gonzalez, 32, Bronx, NY
• Andy Estevez-Gonzalez, 24, Bronx, NY

 

There is something intriguing here....but I just cant put my finger on it.

Anderson sub'd in off the bench ?

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I didn't say I didn't empathize with them. I said calling for someone to have their hands cut off for stealing some motocross bikes is extreme...

I didn't say I didn't empathize with them. I said calling for someone to have their hands cut off for stealing some motocross bikes is extreme, and I would argue a retrogade step. If you'd like to live in a society like that...well, that's up to you. 

cwel11 wrote:
Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock...

Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock everything I own because a scumbag can’t get a job, stay off drugs, and make wise decisions like buying their own toys. Decent people have run out of patience and tolerance with this garbage. 

RichieW13 wrote:
I don't think there is any evidence that harsher penalties reduce crime.  For instance, states with the death penalty generally have higher murder rates than those without. Most...

I don't think there is any evidence that harsher penalties reduce crime. 

 

For instance, states with the death penalty generally have higher murder rates than those without.

 

Most crime is the symptom of other issues.

Don't bother trying to bring up rational arguments with this bunch R. 

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4/22/2026 2:04pm

So clicking on the links in the original post it says all the stolen property has been recovered.

Does anybody know if there were arrests made?

Yes , think i saw two people were arrested and bikes/trailer was recovered 

 

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4/22/2026 2:05pm

So clicking on the links in the original post it says all the stolen property has been recovered.

Does anybody know if there were arrests made?

Yes , think i saw two people were arrested and bikes/trailer was recovered 

 

What I found from a quick google search : 

Recovered Property

Following a tip, the Chesterfield County Sheriff’s Office recovered several items by April 22, including two 2025 Husqvarna models, two Kawasaki bikes, a trailer, and a stolen truck. While a 2024 Husqvarna was initially reported stolen, it was later located by the owners. 

YahooYahoo +1
 
Arrests and Charges
James Murry Hicks (53) and Raymond Luke Edward Watkins Jr. (33), both from Hartsville, were arrested and charged with five counts of grand larceny and one count of possession of a stolen vehicle. The investigation remains active, with potential for further arrests.
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Courts that will punish people defending themselves and property, but not the shitbags committing the crimes themselves.Activists driving policy that ties LE’s hands under threat of...

Courts that will punish people defending themselves and property, but not the shitbags committing the crimes themselves.

Activists driving policy that ties LE’s hands under threat of imprisonment and/or financial ruin.

Gutless Chiefs and Sheriffs who will gladly throw their people under the bus to protect their own self-serving interests.


And on, and on…

In Democrat led states, yes.

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So clicking on the links in the original post it says all the stolen property has been recovered.

Does anybody know if there were arrests made?

Yes , think i saw two people were arrested and bikes/trailer was recovered 

 

What I found from a quick google search : Recovered PropertyFollowing a tip, the Chesterfield County Sheriff’s Office recovered several items by April 22, including...

What I found from a quick google search : 

Recovered Property

Following a tip, the Chesterfield County Sheriff’s Office recovered several items by April 22, including two 2025 Husqvarna models, two Kawasaki bikes, a trailer, and a stolen truck. While a 2024 Husqvarna was initially reported stolen, it was later located by the owners. 

YahooYahoo +1
 
Arrests and Charges
James Murry Hicks (53) and Raymond Luke Edward Watkins Jr. (33), both from Hartsville, were arrested and charged with five counts of grand larceny and one count of possession of a stolen vehicle. The investigation remains active, with potential for further arrests.

One of the offenders' names is literally Hicks...how apt...

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cwel11 wrote:
Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock...

Honestly, I’m at the point that yes I’d rather live in a society like that then constantly have to padlock, air tag, barb wire, cable lock everything I own because a scumbag can’t get a job, stay off drugs, and make wise decisions like buying their own toys. Decent people have run out of patience and tolerance with this garbage. 

RichieW13 wrote:
I don't think there is any evidence that harsher penalties reduce crime.  For instance, states with the death penalty generally have higher murder rates than those without. Most...

I don't think there is any evidence that harsher penalties reduce crime. 

 

For instance, states with the death penalty generally have higher murder rates than those without.

 

Most crime is the symptom of other issues.

Don't bother trying to bring up rational arguments with this bunch R. 

When the fuck have you ever brought up anything rational….

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4/22/2026 3:15pm

If someone steals your bike offer them your riding gear also. 

 

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Inside job.  Too many people have keys 

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