Panic Button for Chase/Kawi?

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3/30/2026 11:07am
TalinH112 wrote:

I think Hunter can run Jett’s pace. Jett has said so, many times.

Maybe for an outlier race here and there, but not consistently. When Jett is healthy and fit, he has proven no one can run his pace.

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3/30/2026 11:08am
TalinH112 wrote:
I wouldn’t discount Kenny’s speed at the moment, in the past he has been one of the few to keep Jett honest. Kenny is one of...

I wouldn’t discount Kenny’s speed at the moment, in the past he has been one of the few to keep Jett honest. Kenny is one of the most naturally talented riders we have ever seen, his injuries robbed us and him of a lot of success. He is really coming into a form we haven’t seen from him in almost 10 years. Chase coming off an injury and Kenny being this good, I think they finished right where they should have. 

aees wrote:

Hunter Lawrence was 1/10 faster than Kenny and Chase. I don't think Hunter is running Jetts pace.

It's old recency bias coming into play. 

TalinH112 wrote:

I think Hunter can run Jett’s pace. Jett has said so, many times.

I'll believe it when I see it. 

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TalinH112 wrote:

I think Hunter can run Jett’s pace. Jett has said so, many times.

Buckland wrote:

Maybe for an outlier race here and there, but not consistently. When Jett is healthy and fit, he has proven no one can run his pace.

Fair point. 

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aees wrote:

Hunter Lawrence was 1/10 faster than Kenny and Chase. I don't think Hunter is running Jetts pace.

It's old recency bias coming into play. 

TalinH112 wrote:

I think Hunter can run Jett’s pace. Jett has said so, many times.

I'll believe it when I see it. 

Yeah me too haha 

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Goes back to the point, Chase needs do be 0.5sec up on everyone else to beat Jett. And he has been there.

I think that is what he is feeling and seeing. That's currently not within reach and he and team lacks direction, don't know how to get there. Lost.

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aees wrote:
The problem is, Chase should be in front of all of these guys, with margin, if the bike works properly.If Jett was here, he wouldn't stand...

The problem is, Chase should be in front of all of these guys, with margin, if the bike works properly.

If Jett was here, he wouldn't stand a chance and he knows it. 

He didn't gain a second place, he lost a win.

TalinH112 wrote:
I wouldn’t discount Kenny’s speed at the moment, in the past he has been one of the few to keep Jett honest. Kenny is one of...

I wouldn’t discount Kenny’s speed at the moment, in the past he has been one of the few to keep Jett honest. Kenny is one of the most naturally talented riders we have ever seen, his injuries robbed us and him of a lot of success. He is really coming into a form we haven’t seen from him in almost 10 years. Chase coming off an injury and Kenny being this good, I think they finished right where they should have. 

aees wrote:

Hunter Lawrence was 1/10 faster than Kenny and Chase. I don't think Hunter is running Jetts pace.

It's old recency bias coming into play. 

Yours or his…..

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prozach wrote:
Dudes season would be completely different if he rode exactly the same as he did all season, but started as good as Hunter every race.  He...

Dudes season would be completely different if he rode exactly the same as he did all season, but started as good as Hunter every race.  He might even have the points lead right now or at least close to it.  

Is that two good starts this season now?  One win and one second in those two races?  

When Jett is out, on paper, Chase should be winning these titles. Obviously hasnt worked out that way. Say whatever you want about Dungey being gifted...

When Jett is out, on paper, Chase should be winning these titles. Obviously hasnt worked out that way. Say whatever you want about Dungey being gifted titles but when RV was out, or eventually retired, Dunge cleaned up. He didn't fold because all the pressure was on him now

That's why Dunge was so great, he absolutely maximized his potential. He was kind of a late bloomer as a youngster and wasn't necessarily supposed to be the next "guy" (until he proved himself in the 250 class), but he put the work in, had probably the most steady temperament of any racer I've ever seen, and fulfilled expectations (and then some) every season. 

Villopoto is probably on the Mt Rushmore of straight-up fastest dudes on a dirtbike of all time, and Dungey kept him honest. And whenever Villopoto was out, Dungey got the job done.

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Chase definitely seems to only have one goal in mind, and that's to be by far the fastest guy on the track. I think he's only happy if he feels like he's riding as fast as Jett would be riding. Because of these sky-high expectations, he is very prone to make reactionary changes to the bike. He feels as if he is automatically good enough to run that pace, and if he's not, then it must be a bike thing. 

A more measured approach would be to slowly build back to that pace. Hunter has been exemplary in his patient approach towards improving. I think if Chase would've just chilled tf out at the start of the year, let things come a little more naturally, and get some more data and experience before making huge changes, we may have seen a gradual progression which could've led him to being very fast at this point in the season. And, with Eli's 12th place and Hunter's 18th (or whatever it was), that may have been enough to put him right in the thick of this points battle.

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3/30/2026 2:33pm
tomlopez wrote:
Chase definitely seems to only have one goal in mind, and that's to be by far the fastest guy on the track. I think he's only...

Chase definitely seems to only have one goal in mind, and that's to be by far the fastest guy on the track. I think he's only happy if he feels like he's riding as fast as Jett would be riding. Because of these sky-high expectations, he is very prone to make reactionary changes to the bike. He feels as if he is automatically good enough to run that pace, and if he's not, then it must be a bike thing. 

A more measured approach would be to slowly build back to that pace. Hunter has been exemplary in his patient approach towards improving. I think if Chase would've just chilled tf out at the start of the year, let things come a little more naturally, and get some more data and experience before making huge changes, we may have seen a gradual progression which could've led him to being very fast at this point in the season. And, with Eli's 12th place and Hunter's 18th (or whatever it was), that may have been enough to put him right in the thick of this points battle.

Very well said. I think he was in panic mode, not Kawasaki. He just needs to keep his head down and push forward. The results will come.

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3/30/2026 6:35pm

Jett probably would’ve lapped them.

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truck wrote:
Lot in here to digest...."Pretty much stock" engine but different airb box, mapping, exhaust.... is he talking about transmission? Head? Cam? My takeaway from the interview is...

Lot in here to digest....

"Pretty much stock" engine but different airb box, mapping, exhaust.... is he talking about transmission? Head? Cam? 

My takeaway from the interview is that the bike is still bad but he's accepted it and is trying to make the most of it. Has tried all kinds of different things and it stays basically the same. Focused on starts over the last week or so. 

Little bit different situation than KTM and maybe a little more encouraging? If he can keep his head on his shoulders and just make the most of it he's still good enough to win on this bike.

That wasn't really an option on the KTM because the issue was how inconsistent the bike was. Great at times and then it wasn't. So can't really just accept it and learn to ride around the weaknesses. 

Didn't he miraculously start riding great last year on the KTM when he finally just decided to just accept the bike for what it was and...

Didn't he miraculously start riding great last year on the KTM when he finally just decided to just accept the bike for what it was and stop chasing the perfect setup? How many times do we need to repeat this cycle? RC said it 20 frigging years ago, the bike isnt going to be perfect in every section of the track and he just rode the damn bike. Sexton is so good thats why its so frustrating 

He rides his best after he hits the gate and that's not a coincidence. He just puts his head down and rides. I think he's faster than Jett once he hits the gate.

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3/31/2026 4:28am
truck wrote:
Lot in here to digest...."Pretty much stock" engine but different airb box, mapping, exhaust.... is he talking about transmission? Head? Cam? My takeaway from the interview is...

Lot in here to digest....

"Pretty much stock" engine but different airb box, mapping, exhaust.... is he talking about transmission? Head? Cam? 

My takeaway from the interview is that the bike is still bad but he's accepted it and is trying to make the most of it. Has tried all kinds of different things and it stays basically the same. Focused on starts over the last week or so. 

Little bit different situation than KTM and maybe a little more encouraging? If he can keep his head on his shoulders and just make the most of it he's still good enough to win on this bike.

That wasn't really an option on the KTM because the issue was how inconsistent the bike was. Great at times and then it wasn't. So can't really just accept it and learn to ride around the weaknesses. 

Didn't he miraculously start riding great last year on the KTM when he finally just decided to just accept the bike for what it was and...

Didn't he miraculously start riding great last year on the KTM when he finally just decided to just accept the bike for what it was and stop chasing the perfect setup? How many times do we need to repeat this cycle? RC said it 20 frigging years ago, the bike isnt going to be perfect in every section of the track and he just rode the damn bike. Sexton is so good thats why its so frustrating 

Jub wrote:
He rides his best after he hits the gate and that's not a coincidence. He just puts his head down and rides. I think he's faster...

He rides his best after he hits the gate and that's not a coincidence. He just puts his head down and rides. I think he's faster than Jett once he hits the gate.

I don't. In that instant where Chase hits the gate and Jett hole shots, the two of them have very different mindsets. Jett will sprint for 1-2 laps until he feels he has control and then set it on 'cruise' where he can see what other riders are doing and leave himself a margin of error and an option to turn it up if he needs to. Whereas Chase will be in a frantic mindset because he needs to catch catch catch leaving it all on the line. The lap times will say that Chase is a faster rider than Jett, but that's not the whole story.
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Yeah, this is a complete disaster

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prozach wrote:
Dudes season would be completely different if he rode exactly the same as he did all season, but started as good as Hunter every race.  He...

Dudes season would be completely different if he rode exactly the same as he did all season, but started as good as Hunter every race.  He might even have the points lead right now or at least close to it.  

Is that two good starts this season now?  One win and one second in those two races?  

When Jett is out, on paper, Chase should be winning these titles. Obviously hasnt worked out that way. Say whatever you want about Dungey being gifted...

When Jett is out, on paper, Chase should be winning these titles. Obviously hasnt worked out that way. Say whatever you want about Dungey being gifted titles but when RV was out, or eventually retired, Dunge cleaned up. He didn't fold because all the pressure was on him now

tomlopez wrote:
That's why Dunge was so great, he absolutely maximized his potential. He was kind of a late bloomer as a youngster and wasn't necessarily supposed to...

That's why Dunge was so great, he absolutely maximized his potential. He was kind of a late bloomer as a youngster and wasn't necessarily supposed to be the next "guy" (until he proved himself in the 250 class), but he put the work in, had probably the most steady temperament of any racer I've ever seen, and fulfilled expectations (and then some) every season. 

Villopoto is probably on the Mt Rushmore of straight-up fastest dudes on a dirtbike of all time, and Dungey kept him honest. And whenever Villopoto was out, Dungey got the job done.

When Villopoto retired there was a lot of discussion about who the next guy would be. When someone finally asked Villopoto about it, he matter-of-factly said, “Ryan Dungey…” with a tone that added “you idiots” to the end of the sentiment. 

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I really feel for the guy 

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all ima say is chase betta get his shit together cause I’m expecting him to get back to his normal self for outdoors to give Jett “SOME” fits here n there but at the rate we’re at , brotha chase boutta be overshadowed by deegs , hunter & prado 

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I think that frame needs some gussets.   The soft track and tight pockets of the rhythms exaggerated one of the problems he is having.  One of the problems.  

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That was a hard watch.

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4/4/2026 8:20pm

Its over i think he needs to go the prado route.😧

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JB 19 wrote:
I think that frame needs some gussets.   The soft track and tight pockets of the rhythms exaggerated one of the problems he is having.  One...

I think that frame needs some gussets.   The soft track and tight pockets of the rhythms exaggerated one of the problems he is having.  One of the problems.  

They really do need to bring back lime, for supercross and the obstacles the tracks are getting way to sketchy.

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4/4/2026 8:30pm

Was that Lewis on the bike in the main, seems like a odd time to do life swap?

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4/4/2026 8:38pm

I heard he hired DNGR to train him. Was just out there aura farming for no reason… whatever that means. 

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4/4/2026 8:43pm

Not a great look for Kawasaki or Chase. Both parties had a lot to prove coming into this year. And unfortunately it’s been a complete disaster for everyone involved. Maybe Chase can get a Bogles spot on the Suzuki next year. 

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4/4/2026 8:48pm

I thought Chizz chizzed on it and it was all good?

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ohh_454 wrote:

I thought Chizz chizzed on it and it was all good?

The bike didn't make him forget what part of the rhythm section he was in. 

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That brain fart case was so weird, like he didn’t know where he was on the rhythm and just sent it on something nobody was doing. The broadcast said (but didn’t show) he crashed earlier in the main, wonder if he hit his head. 

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ohh_454 wrote:

I thought Chizz chizzed on it and it was all good?

chasetwo79 wrote:

The bike didn't make him forget what part of the rhythm section he was in. 

Kawi must’ve pushed him to come back to early from that concussion 😬😬😁😁

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KurtJ99 wrote:
That brain fart case was so weird, like he didn’t know where he was on the rhythm and just sent it on something nobody was doing...

That brain fart case was so weird, like he didn’t know where he was on the rhythm and just sent it on something nobody was doing. The broadcast said (but didn’t show) he crashed earlier in the main, wonder if he hit his head. 

Seemed like he thought he was going onto the table he went over, lost count or something? He went down earlier in main and on start in heat so wheels were coming off much earlier in the night. 

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4/4/2026 9:58pm

ok, now is a good time to panic. Hit it, hard, now..image 2815

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