Any bike can be claimed

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In this market, if someone wanted to take my bike and pay me an extra 50% of what the manufacturer thought it was worth when it was new, I’d wash it and load it in their truck for them too.

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FGR01 wrote:
Delivered with Clear title?   Who brings their title with to the races?  Not to mention, the bank has the title of half the bikes at...

Delivered with Clear title?   Who brings their title with to the races?  Not to mention, the bank has the title of half the bikes at the track.

APLMAN99 wrote:

Read the last 4 words of the sentence. 

FGR01 wrote:
"Or Bill of sale".....  yeah, because the bank that owns the bike and has the legal title won't care if you sell it in a claim...

"Or Bill of sale".....  yeah, because the bank that owns the bike and has the legal title won't care if you sell it in a claim and give it away with a bill of sale.

The bill of sale could be used to affect the title transfer later. With the claim price being 150% of MSRP, it should easily cover whatever balance is left on the hypothetical bike loan (though money spent on aftermarket parts and other modifications might be more, they’re unlikely to be included in a loan for the bike purchase). 

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kage173 wrote:
Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work...

Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work, just call Yamaha and they'll shake him down til he gives up. And afterwards, if the story gets out they'll call in Steve Matthes to make sure everyone blames the guy who followed the rules. 

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

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oceantrav wrote:
Ya, my kid races 85s. We’ve been to Loretta’s 4 times so far. At an area this weekend. I’m saying most these kids my kids races against...

Ya, my kid races 85s. We’ve been to Loretta’s 4 times so far. At an area this weekend. 

I’m saying most these kids my kids races against have several bikes. When we go to Loretta’s we just bring two though. 

We have 7 85’s at the moment. All cheaper used bikes, I’m not loaded. Need a lot to train and race and always have bikes ready. 

LowBidder wrote:
That kid of yours is the holeshot king. Did he start up front every moto at spring a ding. If he could keep it on 2...

That kid of yours is the holeshot king. Did he start up front every moto at spring a ding. If he could keep it on 2 wheels. He has the speed for sure. 

He got a couple holeshots and led some laps, but fell everytime he was fast 🤦

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oceantrav wrote:

He got a couple holeshots and led some laps, but fell everytime he was fast 🤦

Nerves, probably. He’ll settle down and start winning.

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kage173 wrote:
Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work...

Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work, just call Yamaha and they'll shake him down til he gives up. And afterwards, if the story gets out they'll call in Steve Matthes to make sure everyone blames the guy who followed the rules. 

Frd03 wrote:
Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim...

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

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4/4/2026 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/4/2026 1:32pm
kage173 wrote:
Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work...

Yeah but you can just tell the AMA to bring the guy into the room with you so you can intimidate him. If that doesn't work, just call Yamaha and they'll shake him down til he gives up. And afterwards, if the story gets out they'll call in Steve Matthes to make sure everyone blames the guy who followed the rules. 

Frd03 wrote:
Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim...

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

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Frd03 wrote:
Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim...

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

Frd03 wrote:
Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved...

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

You may need to revisit that one to see what actually went down.

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Frd03 wrote:
Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim...

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

Frd03 wrote:
Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved...

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

The kid said he wanted to see what it was like to ride the Star bike. 

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4/4/2026 5:54pm
Frd03 wrote:
Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim...

Why are we still spreading non sense about this. The rider making the claim was given money from an engine guy out of Texas to claim a star bike. An mxsports official is who intimidated the kid making the claim not anyones father, the kids own words . Yes it may be a rule but it was shady all around from every party involved. If you’re part of the moto community at all you know this garbage is shunned upon anyways, rule or not.

Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

Frd03 wrote:
Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved...

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

Utter nonsense. 
If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. 
If rider wants to use that cash to activate a protest, why shouldn’t he? 

It makes zero difference where the money comes from. 

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Are you suggesting it makes a difference with who fronted the money? 

 

Frd03 wrote:
Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved...

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

Utter nonsense. If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. If rider wants...

Utter nonsense. 
If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. 
If rider wants to use that cash to activate a protest, why shouldn’t he? 

It makes zero difference where the money comes from. 

You are just arguing hypotheticals now, the rules the rule.

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4/4/2026 6:52pm
Frd03 wrote:
Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved...

Absolutely, the rule states a competitor in the class must be the one claiming for legit competitive reasons nothing else. Thats not saying the kid deserved to be shaken down by an MXsports official but the entire act was on bad faith from someone trying to work around the actual rules and reverse engineer a star engine.

You can downvote me all you want the AMA rules are the rules , take it up with them.

Utter nonsense. If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. If rider wants...

Utter nonsense. 
If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. 
If rider wants to use that cash to activate a protest, why shouldn’t he? 

It makes zero difference where the money comes from. 

Frd03 wrote:

You are just arguing hypotheticals now, the rules the rule.

What do you mean? 

What does the rule say about the source of the funding?

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What is Schofield up to these days? Working at a Ralph’s?

It shows what kind of person you are when you cut someone down because of their place of employment or job title. 

Oh ease off the virtue signaling. If that is how you interpreted it then maybe you are the problem. I’d kill to go stock shelves at...

Oh ease off the virtue signaling. If that is how you interpreted it then maybe you are the problem. I’d kill to go stock shelves at Costco 

Don't feel too bad. Some people just don't have the intellect to stock shelves. 

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4/4/2026 10:45pm
ShellyMX wrote:

It worked out well for my buddy, John Rodier.

And what happened the next week?

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It worked out well for my buddy, John Rodier.

And what happened the next week?

He sold it back to them. 

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So this subject had me thinking; if you could claim any bike in the current SX field, which would it be and why?

Initially I thought Hunter’s Honda, because well it’s HRC, but I think I’d go Kenny’s Suzi. 
That bike (and rider) are proving everything we’re supposed to believe about the moto industry wrong.

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4/6/2026 6:11am Edited Date/Time 4/6/2026 6:13am
CPR wrote:
So this subject had me thinking; if you could claim any bike in the current SX field, which would it be and why?Initially I thought Hunter’s...

So this subject had me thinking; if you could claim any bike in the current SX field, which would it be and why?

Initially I thought Hunter’s Honda, because well it’s HRC, but I think I’d go Kenny’s Suzi. 
That bike (and rider) are proving everything we’re supposed to believe about the moto industry wrong.

I don't think it applies to AMA Pro Racing. Different sanctioning body.

 

If you did get Roczen's bike, the first thing you'd have to do is completely re-do the suspension so you could ride it.

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Sorry it was a theoretical question guys.

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ShellyMX wrote:

It worked out well for my buddy, John Rodier.

And what happened the next week?

ShellyMX wrote:

He sold it back to them. 

Actually, John Roeder raced it a few times in local races, Cycle magazine took it apart and photographed it and wrote an article, then put it in storage for 30+ years.  Terry Good owns it now.

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Someone please refresh my memory. What’s the story about the Factory Honda transporter being stolen at a track in California, and then recovered with the works (Marty Smith’s) Honda’s missing. Were these bikes ever recovered?

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oceantrav wrote:
Doubt hardly any bikes at Loretta’s are financed. Definitely not 50% All the kids parents with 5 plus bikes for their kid are not financing bikes. May have...

Doubt hardly any bikes at Loretta’s are financed. Definitely not 50%

 All the kids parents with 5 plus bikes for their kid are not financing bikes. 

May have a second mortgage on the house though lol 

jmo443 wrote:

You would be greatly surprised. Have you ever been to LL? Very limited number of kids with 5+ bikes at the same time. 

oceantrav wrote:
Ya, my kid races 85s. We’ve been to Loretta’s 4 times so far. At an area this weekend. I’m saying most these kids my kids races against...

Ya, my kid races 85s. We’ve been to Loretta’s 4 times so far. At an area this weekend. 

I’m saying most these kids my kids races against have several bikes. When we go to Loretta’s we just bring two though. 

We have 7 85’s at the moment. All cheaper used bikes, I’m not loaded. Need a lot to train and race and always have bikes ready. 

You have 7 85’s in rotation? Fuck me your boy must be hard on bikes…. I take it he’s pretty quick? I’m gunna need to make some more money asap. 

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Utter nonsense. If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. If rider wants...

Utter nonsense. 
If a rider has a sponsor throwing him cash, the rider can use that cash to spend on anything connected to his racing. 
If rider wants to use that cash to activate a protest, why shouldn’t he? 

It makes zero difference where the money comes from. 

Frd03 wrote:

You are just arguing hypotheticals now, the rules the rule.

What do you mean? 

What does the rule say about the source of the funding?

Schofield not getting the Star bike is the biggest injustice in the history of amature racing.

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Remember when Chatfields claimed Alessi's 85

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Falcon wrote:
Alright then, DQ me and I'll take my racing dollars to an outlaw series until next year. I ain't selling my private property to anyone until...

Alright then, DQ me and I'll take my racing dollars to an outlaw series until next year. I ain't selling my private property to anyone until I am good and ready. 

Don't race cheater bikes and it's not a problem.

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Falcon wrote:
Alright then, DQ me and I'll take my racing dollars to an outlaw series until next year. I ain't selling my private property to anyone until...

Alright then, DQ me and I'll take my racing dollars to an outlaw series until next year. I ain't selling my private property to anyone until I am good and ready. 

tyler113 wrote:

Don't race cheater bikes and it's not a problem.

Just a question why was it a cheater bike?

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CPR wrote:

Sorry it was a theoretical question guys.

That's the best kind!

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4/7/2026 5:56pm
ShellyMX wrote:

It worked out well for my buddy, John Rodier.

And what happened the next week?

ShellyMX wrote:

He sold it back to them. 

No he didnt. 

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lostboy819 wrote:

No he didnt. 

Well, he wanted to. They balked at the asking price.

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