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Ok, here's a concept. Beginning upon completion of lap 5, the last place rider in the field is eliminated (black flagged) each lap. I say lap 5 because if someone falls at the start they have 5 laps to move forward. Do this until there are the final 10. Let them finish as a 10 rider field.
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Don't give Feld any ideas to make the racing more circus-like.
The lapper "fix" cannot result in more responsibilities for the ama. They need less things to screw up, not more. The reduced rider numbers in the mains seems like the easy button to me. Even if it's just 2-4 less
Absolutely spot on.
I still genuinely believe cutting the gates isn’t enough, for example take a year with many injuries lack of 2nd tier factory talent let’s say the jcoops malcolm Barcia range is depleted, and that lets in like 12-18 guys who aren’t remotely on pace with the top 5 the same issue is still there.
Using a 104% rule (even I was saying 107% but due to our short lap times compared to f1 104 really seems like the number for us) would make sure that the guys in the race are at least in the same stratosphere, there will still be lappers and no crazy rules for lappers needs to exist but because they’ll atleast be on the same planet speed wise , it will be MUCH safer and much more professsional.
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Maybe if someone posts this idea one more time it’ll come true!
Maybe the inbreds who run it will read this shit, I’ve defintly heard several things that are said on here, get brought up on pulp many times not in a negative way, so we have to give these idiots the right ideas or they’ll go and do something dumb like make a guy who can’t speak English an announcer on tv or something!
At the most elite level of motocross racing in the world, why do we let riders that have no shot of finishing in the top 10 get out there and screw with championship contenders?
No one is watching the battle for 19th.
Maybe I’m an inbred but it just gets tiring with the 10+ threads all with the same ideas that have been pandered about for 10 years. I grew up around and participating in all forms of motorsports, lappers have always just been part of racing to me.
I do think the AMA needs to be harsher with handing out penalties on glaring offenders (like Friese), but if they’re going to do that they need to have legitimate flaggers who will actually display the blue flag properly, rather than a fan who got plucked from their local riding club and now they’re too star struck to throw a flag because they’re on the floor of an SX race.
If we did eliminate 1 rider per lap, everyone would love it until someone like Tomac gets plucked like he would’ve at Glendale after going down in the 1st turn, and then everyone would be asking for it to be reversed to the traditional format.
With that thought process we should just be like drag racing and have 2 guys race head to head at a time.
You’re right and I agree those solutions won’t work at all. And becuase we can’t trust flaggers or penalties or any of that, and even with good flaggers it’s just tricky and will surely phuck a lead guy exactly like you’re saying that’s why the percent rule exists in f1.
I don’t think f1 got every thing right but man that rule just makes sense and makes it so much “cleaner.”
I’ll lay off it but seeing the nonsense ideas that would surely lead to literal chaos like you’re saying just gets to me lol.
MotoGP has a 105% rule too. Almost every motorsport does. Imagine Marquez getting held up or crashing cause a guy who should be racing a regional Superbike championship decided to show up at a Grand Prix. That’s what’s happening in Supercross
They hand out penalties for not obeying every other flag, so why not the blue flag? The only thing that needs to change is to penalize the riders that don't obey the blue flag, end of story! You don't go reinventing the wheel every little chance you get.
And with your thought process, why not make it a 30-man gate?
Hell, let the KTM Juniors race the main events too! Some of them have just as much chance of scoring a top 10 as the current main event back markers.
You have to draw the line somewhere, and 22 riders ain't it.
I never advocated for more riders on the gate, and I do think that if we’re running 40 second lap times, maybe we do need to think about rider count on the track.
I think that boils down to a track design/stadium size issue more than the field of riders itself though. Maybe we don’t need a 1/4 mile drag strip of a start straight.
My issue is while watching the broadcast, the front runners get into lapped traffic, and the back markers look like they are barely even trying. Like your at that elite level of racing supercross, and rolling around just getting through the main event. If your going to go all in racing, go all in and make every main event count for yourself, sponsors, money. It is alot of work to get to that level. If you just want to give up pull off the track and watch from the pit area. end rant
My simple solution is you race until you are a lap down then you are done and locked into that position. You will see less guys just rolling as each position pays more.
Yep, highly paid factory guys getting yanked from the track, that’ll go over well. They get lapped too. Seems like people have just discovered this sport and have all these great ideas to fix it. Just like shitty Californians and Texans moving to Colorado.
If you are a factory rider in 17th. In Daytona there were 9 guys a lap down none factory. And you can put provisions in like for the first 10 laps of the race. And you can F off as I have been involved for 45 years dipshit. And just to piss you off more I move from California 22 years ago.
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You can GFY just like all the other Nancyboy fans. Let’s over regulate a sport that can’t enforce its current rules, Genius theme there Albert who has been around since wheels were square.
Yeah because that's relevant 😄
Hey what do call an orgy with Californian's and Texan's ?
fuckin Californians and Texans
How bout the factory riders stop their crying.
The B main would be a like a full on LCQ. They would all be close in speed and probably put on a better show the the factory guys.
Hey I do not think they should change anything but the thread is ideas and that is one.
What happens if Eli Tomac tips over in a corner on lap 5 and drops to 22 before he puts in a charge into the top 3?
I’m surprised the top riders complain about the lappers so much. Navigating them is as much of a skill as corners, whoops, etc.
if you ear the top racers, the ones being influenced by the lappers, most of them will point to the same 3 or 4 racers that cause problems......i even bet that if you do a poll here about who are those 3 or 4 racers, most of the race fans here will be spot on.......
my question is why are those same racers still causing the same shit all and all over again, why a racer that even tried to bribe another racer to take someone else down is still alowed to race .....there is a rulebook, there are flags, there are penalties,why are guys like this still causing shit untouched ????
it said that ama sx is supposed to be the top dirtbike series in the world, but every year the most unprofessional and unsportsmanship things keep happening again and again with out anyone learnig anything........... that it makes me belive that it must this the reason why only moto brands and energydrink brands sponsor it.....main stream advertising investers want nothing to do with the image that, this all unprofessionalism, gives to main stream consumers
Idea that will most likely be received as well as diarrhea.... Two "Lapper Lanes" on the outside of the rhythm sections (where it makes sense). Blue flag before so rider is alerted to veer left prior to entering lane...factory riders know to not be on the left hand side of this area. Lappers stay in position and 1/2 throttle (or whatever) until they re-enter the track in a safe place.
Kinda like the Joker Lane but not really at all. hahahahaha.
The lappers pulling off option is literally never going to work, these guys struggle to get out of the way of the leaders at full race pace. Now you want them to slow down enough to exit the track during the race and somehow not get in the way.
Let me offer another option:
Tough fucking titties, its racing.
Friese, Harrison, Thompson and Moranz have been named as regular offenders by fellow riders, media and race watchers.
So if it’s that obvious, maybe the AMA needs to just do their job and there’s no need for radical changes?
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