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Call me selfish but me and my pocket book desire success no matter the president or party at the helm.
Of course I'd rather see America be successful. How many metrics show that America is currently succeeding? Give an few examples.
Your response tells me your answer, just sayin...
Give some metrics or shut the fuck up
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I'll start off with the low hanging fruit of cheap gas and eggs Mr Early.
Yet you're too smart and surly to not know that.
Gas is $3 a gallon around me, the same it was in 2024. Eggs came down but beef is way up.
Of course I want him and America to succeed, but my definition of success is different than yours and others. If I lived in Russia, and be asked do I want Putin to fail or Russia to succeed,, I would have to ask which version of success you are referring to? Putin's version, which includes restoring the former Soviet Union by invading other countries or just the general metrics of success such as economy, education, life expectancy, happiness etc. I would have to say both I want him to fail and succeed.
it’s takes a certain kind of retarded idiot to think trump is helping in any way. Besides making him and his family rich. And making the people of the US looking dumb.
Try $4.25 a gallon for regular unleaded in Seattle.
$3.00 a gallon would be a wet dream for me at this point
Would you move to Ohio for $1.25 off gas? Haha
I could care less who’s steering the ship as long as it’s in the right direction.
As long as American citizens are the priority.
Make the cost of living affordable. Six figures is the new paycheck to paycheck with minimal money going into savings. For the naysayers, the cost of living it’s different in each state.
$300 weekly for groceries and, the fridge is only 3/4 full.
$150 to fill up the tank in my truck. 500K buys a single story house needing a full remodel.
My biggest complaint about America is it’s fuckin expensive. Oh, let’s not forget the cost of any building materials. FML. Bids get thrown out the window when a price is given two months in advance and, prices are still taking their dicks and, shoving it up you know where. Yeah, adjustments can be made but, that’s still time going through every fitting, size of pipe, piece of hardware, valve etc. Bidding is time consuming.
To me, if these items can be fixed and, people can afford to live then that’s America succeeding. If trading Trump means a more affordable life and, economic stability so be it.
What does a commercial plumber make there?
Would you be willing to live in Washington for $70 hr?
Edit: After looking real quick at job ads in Cleveland, commercial plumbers make $35 hr. Lower cost of living usually means less hourly like I had assumed. 1/2 the hourly here and, you’re pointing out $3 a gallon gas. That’s not a negative comment my part either. You’re pointing out things are expensive regardless of where one is located.
$35 an hour ? Shit give me their number for my next leak.
Stop watching the view .
I paid 4.09 yesterday, 2 weeks ago I paid 3.65 and it was giving me some hope. Washington State 🤦!
I want whoever’s in charge to be successful. When you look at whats going on it’s apparent that all the problems aren’t just US problems, we have a world problem and I believe there’s only one way to get it straightened out and it’s not going to get straight at the hands of man.
That's the thing about cost of living, housing restaurants taxes and gas prices differ, but groceries, vehicles, dirt bikes, phones bills, peacock subscriptions and everything else cost about the same everywhere in the country.
Your question pre supposes that whatever Trump wants is good for the US. Flawed premise at a minimum.
Do you still beat your wife?
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I think you’ve set up your question wrong. In several aspects, your choices are exactly the same. Trump ‘failing’ is America ‘succeeding’. Not in every aspect, of course, but in many.
I would like to see both fail. America has lost its way.
The things we have in common are the ones needing the most attention. Those are the items that make or, break a household. Businesses as well.
My wife and, I quit eating out some time ago. The cost of food at the grocery store has crept up offsetting the things we were doing to save money. Financially, we’re back to where we were before cutting out purchases that weren’t necessary. Making it as tough as it once was to save money.
The cost of building materials leaves no room for price adjustments. Now, every asshole with an old truck and, a pipe wrench is bidding the same jobs as larger companies. Instead of choosing contractors in which relationships have been built and, have good reputations for quality work, it’s the lowest bidder getting the jobs. With that, these smaller companies will begin slitting everyone’s throats trying to under bid one another to get work. I’ve seen it before in 2008 and, I’m seeing it now.
Overhead comes into play but, many overhead items are a necessity. Especially, quality tools and, a work van. These people don’t care about that and, the customers will suffer with sub standard installations.
Now, what I’m seeing with high prices of material, builders are holding out on starting projects. Banks are less eager to spend money. Inflation makes people want to hold on to their money. Which, trickles down to higher numbers of those on unemployment. At least in the construction trades.
My only saving grace right now is a good hourly has allowed me to save for times like these. I’m looking at having 3 months off as next week, my remaining project is getting prepped for final inspection.
To be honest, I’m looking forward to spending time at home. But, not everyone is able to do that and, I realize it.
That’s a 2008 hourly in Oregon for commercial plumbers.
Maybe it’s the area. We interviewed several builders for our new house that we are starting in a few weeks. Every builder told us the same thing. Lumber is the cheapest it’s been since before Biden and not one thing in their cost of building a new home is more expensive now than it was before Tariffs. What’s increased is the labor costs. Maybe that’s why wage growth in America is outpacing inflation. Higher wages, lower inflation. All good in my book.
Just wait for that millionaires tax to destroy or push out the small business class. Washington is headed downhill in a hurry.
I think I get what you're saying because your second sentence dropped a clue, but it also means that the second sentence nullifies the first. In order for America to have lost its way, then it means there was something great about America in the first place, and that's the version of America that we all want to succeed whether we're right, left, or center.
It's sucks that the OP's question is a valid one, because what kind of person cares more about one person failing than the country's success, but there is also a flipside in there, which is what kind of person lies about the nonexistent success of one person at the expense of the country. It's the same person.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882
I dont know what success for a president even means. There just cogs in the machine. What constitutes success vs failure? People will say the economy, housing etc. economies are slow to react so a lot of one presidents economy could be attributed to the previous administration. And where do you draw the line from one to another?
I think I recall you having mentioned being a plumber yourself in Washington. If that’s the case, how are things looking in your area? I’m in region 1 which is the Seattle area.
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There is economic hysteresis for sure and those changes are felt in waves, so unfortunately there is no single line for all of it. Some of it is immediately felt like doge cuts, some take a fiscal year, and some are minor fiscal year failures that grow into something much bigger five years down the road, some even longer. The ambiguity found in pretty much everything is constantly weaponized to paint whatever picture that the manipulators want, but there is no ambiguity and there is no denying the words found in that report. We'll be adding nearly two trillion to debt this year and the projections for the next ten years get worse.
And there are multiple levels to these lies. The first one is right vs left, but the second one is them versus us, and that's the bigger lie. There are shitty money hungry thieves in government because that's who we are becoming. People fall into the right vs left nonsense because it makes us feel like "we" are the hero and "they" are the villain, but if you somehow got past that, there's still the lie that it's the people that are the heroes and the politicians are the villains. In reality, our enemy is the mirror.
Regardless of who we are becoming and regardless of how much we lie to ourselves about it, we still know who we wish we were and there is value in that. It should be fostered regardless of our failures to achieve it.
Price of lumber is one thing. That can be harvested domestically.
Did you factor in the price of shingles for your roof? Petroleum products?
ABS piping? Petroleum based again.
Electrical? That’s copper and the price of copper is astronomical.
Higher wages just means the end price of the product increases. No company is going to take a loss of profit to pay their employees more. Most aim for 25% minimum while hoping for change orders to add to it.
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