Lucas Mirtl Update, Case Dismissed!?

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I only communicate with one time pads and numbers stations 

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2/3/2026 3:01pm
I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is...

I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is kinda silly. I delete virtually every text i have each evening (I'm kinda OCD about it). Mirtl could delete things immediately after the hearing and there's not much they can do about it. 

Oh well - will be interesting to see what happens.

I knew Mirtl was Cooksey’s source for some inside stuff but I must have missed the text/email thing. Are these texts and emails posted somewhere publicly? 

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I knew Mirtl was Cooksey’s source for some inside stuff but I must have missed the text/email thing. Are these texts and emails posted somewhere publicly? 

Oh no doubt Kooksey was being spoon fed all the "poor me I'm innocent" info from Mirtle and kooksey is to stupid to realise he was Mirtles useful idiot.

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MKMX wrote:

Maddo? Sincs? Sheeny? Jackson Strong?

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Jaun? Got an answer or we keeping the guessing going?Does he have a moustache?

Jaun? Got an answer or we keeping the guessing going?

Guess Who? | Hasbro | GAME

Does he have a moustache?

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Maddo I was told

It matters not really, I was just making the point that this isn't the first time and I can guarantee you that Maddo and the Lawrence's are the only ones either.

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2/3/2026 4:15pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2026 4:36pm
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@GrapeApe Isn't pending criminal charges usually pretty good excuse to put civil proceedings for same events on hold until criminal issues are resolved? Obviously can't just...

@GrapeApe Isn't pending criminal charges usually pretty good excuse to put civil proceedings for same events on hold until criminal issues are resolved? Obviously can't just ignore the judge and there's a process to it but why can't his lawyers just ask for that? 

If he had a lawyer they might seek an abatement but he's representing himself and not responding to the court or the Plaintiffs' attorneys. 

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2/3/2026 4:21pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2026 4:37pm
a refusal to comply does not end with default. I've had cases where there's been a dozen "compel" motions without compliance...that doesn't throw out the other...

a refusal to comply does not end with default. I've had cases where there's been a dozen "compel" motions without compliance...that doesn't throw out the other party's case. Sanctions? Absolutely.

GrapeApe wrote:
Geez guy, do you ever give up? Read Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.380(b)(2)(C) then tell me more about how default is not an option. He...

Geez guy, do you ever give up? Read Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.380(b)(2)(C) then tell me more about how default is not an option. He has ignored several court orders and the judge is fed up.

 

give up on what? We're talking here. You must be a lawyer, and if so, cool. There's no need to get your panties in such a...

give up on what? We're talking here. You must be a lawyer, and if so, cool. There's no need to get your panties in such a twist. My statement stands for Texas civil proceedings. Regardless, have a beer. 

Texas proceedings? We have TRCP Rule 215 which includes the "death penalty":

(5) An order striking out pleadings or parts thereof, or staying further proceedings until the order is obeyed, or dismissing with or without prejudice the action or proceedings or any part thereof, or rendering a judgment by default against the disobedient party;

Just stop.

 

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GrapeApe wrote:

If he had a lawyer they might seek an abatement but he's representing himself and not responding to the court or the Plaintiffs' attorneys. 

What could possibly go wrong?

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GrapeApe wrote:

If he had a lawyer they might seek an abatement but he's representing himself and not responding to the court or the Plaintiffs' attorneys. 

Robgvx wrote:

What could possibly go wrong?

Suicide watch. Half serious. 

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2/4/2026 5:24am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2026 5:48am
GrapeApe wrote:

If he had a lawyer they might seek an abatement but he's representing himself and not responding to the court or the Plaintiffs' attorneys. 

Robgvx wrote:

What could possibly go wrong?

The Ostrich defense, it's a bold strategy Cotton . . .

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2/4/2026 5:28am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2026 5:29am

Ah, actual attorneys offering free legal advice on a message board. 😂  Read your policy carefully regarding public discourse on social media—these carriers don’t play around. Carry on. 

/s/ El Capitan, Esq. 

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So, is he going to serve any prison time? 

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So, is he going to serve any prison time? 

It’s a complicated case, Maude

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2/4/2026 8:23am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

So, is he going to serve any prison time? 

This is all regarding the civil case, not the federal criminal charge.

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GrapeApe wrote:
There was already a motion to compel, and an order compelling production by a certain date, and his failure to comply with the court's order. The...

There was already a motion to compel, and an order compelling production by a certain date, and his failure to comply with the court's order. The next step is sanctions and default is a possibility. 

a refusal to comply does not end with default. I've had cases where there's been a dozen "compel" motions without compliance...that doesn't throw out the other...

a refusal to comply does not end with default. I've had cases where there's been a dozen "compel" motions without compliance...that doesn't throw out the other party's case. Sanctions? Absolutely.

GrapeApe wrote:
Geez guy, do you ever give up? Read Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.380(b)(2)(C) then tell me more about how default is not an option. He...

Geez guy, do you ever give up? Read Florida Rule of Civil Procedure 1.380(b)(2)(C) then tell me more about how default is not an option. He has ignored several court orders and the judge is fed up.

 

I believe what will technically happen here (you obviously are better versed than me with this stuff), is the judge has the option to (and probably will) charge and hold Mirtl in contempt for defying judge orders/undertakings. That could add another criminal charge to his growing list. If he fails to comply at that point is when default judgement will be delivered.

Is that your understanding? I thought courts use contempt to try and coerce information?

2/5/2026 7:37pm
I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is...

I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is kinda silly. I delete virtually every text i have each evening (I'm kinda OCD about it). Mirtl could delete things immediately after the hearing and there's not much they can do about it. 

Oh well - will be interesting to see what happens.

You haven’t followed along. This was clearly in response to the Mirtl subpoenas on the same things between the Lawrence’s and damn near everyone in the industry including Feld.

2/6/2026 7:26am
I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is...

I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is kinda silly. I delete virtually every text i have each evening (I'm kinda OCD about it). Mirtl could delete things immediately after the hearing and there's not much they can do about it. 

Oh well - will be interesting to see what happens.

Deleting texts off of your phone does NOT delete your texts completely. A warrant can be processed to make the phone company give those records. They can do the same with email servers.  

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2/6/2026 7:47am

Listen to Matthes' interview with Dan Bauch.  There is some discussion on this and it's not sounding good for Mirtle.  The Federal indictment hearing is this month too according to Steve.

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El Capitan wrote:
Ah, actual attorneys offering free legal advice on a message board. 😂  Read your policy carefully regarding public discourse on social media—these carriers don’t play around...

Ah, actual attorneys offering free legal advice on a message board. 😂  Read your policy carefully regarding public discourse on social media—these carriers don’t play around. Carry on. 

/s/ El Capitan, Esq. 

What legal advice?  

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2/6/2026 12:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/6/2026 12:28pm
Records, such as deleted texts, are easily obtained with a warrant. If you think deleting texts, or ANYTHING else, off your phone means they don't exist...

Records, such as deleted texts, are easily obtained with a warrant. If you think deleting texts, or ANYTHING else, off your phone means they don't exist anymore...you are mistaken.

This isn’t completely true. With proper precautions and measures you can delete a text message from existence and make the message body irretrievable, even iMessages.

In almost all cases, subpoenaed phone records are attained directly from a device and/or iCloud backups. Most people are digital hoarders and keep everything and just blindly backup everything to iCloud.

If you delete a message from an iPhone and those messages are not backed up to iCloud, the message body is irretrievable at every point of delivery, except recipients.

Recipients of messages are also human and rarely delete stuff. A subpoena for phone records will go after every phone number, recipient and receiver of said messages. Authorities can get metadata from the carriers which will indicate to them messaging activity between two or more parties but they can’t see the message body. It’s encrypted.

In almost all cases of subpoenaed phone records, they get the message straight off the sending device, or the recipients device.

There is some software that can pull low level storage chunks off a device that haven’t yet been overwritten but the window of opportunity for capturing that stuff is very very narrow. And you’re still dealing with encrypted data.

Deleting messages from your device is a good idea. Disabling iCloud backup an even better idea. Reboot your phone after deleting stuff.

Best idea of all - don’t be a douchebag criminal.

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If Mirtl bought a motorhome(was it?) with his client’s money, do you think he’d be smart enough to delete his past messages?

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Listen to Matthes' interview with Dan Bauch.  There is some discussion on this and it's not sounding good for Mirtle.  The Federal indictment hearing is this...

Listen to Matthes' interview with Dan Bauch.  There is some discussion on this and it's not sounding good for Mirtle.  The Federal indictment hearing is this month too according to Steve.

He knows when these court dates are but had no clue about the lawsuit against Feld

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I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is...

I don't think Lawrences are going for DEFAULT (as Mattes implies), but rather a Compel due to noncompliance. The texts/email thing between him and Cooksey is kinda silly. I delete virtually every text i have each evening (I'm kinda OCD about it). Mirtl could delete things immediately after the hearing and there's not much they can do about it. 

Oh well - will be interesting to see what happens.

I knew Mirtl was Cooksey’s source for some inside stuff but I must have missed the text/email thing. Are these texts and emails posted somewhere publicly? 

I think that you’ve probably got it slightly backwards. It isn’t so much that Mirtl is ‘Kooksey’s source’ as it is that Kooksey is Mirtl’s propagandist. Subtle difference, but important I think. 

Kooksey is so desperate for relevance and attention that anyone with an actual position ‘inside’ who will even speak to him is slurped to the Nth degree. 

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Records, such as deleted texts, are easily obtained with a warrant. If you think deleting texts, or ANYTHING else, off your phone means they don't exist...

Records, such as deleted texts, are easily obtained with a warrant. If you think deleting texts, or ANYTHING else, off your phone means they don't exist anymore...you are mistaken.

This isn’t completely true. With proper precautions and measures you can delete a text message from existence and make the message body irretrievable, even iMessages.In almost...

This isn’t completely true. With proper precautions and measures you can delete a text message from existence and make the message body irretrievable, even iMessages.

In almost all cases, subpoenaed phone records are attained directly from a device and/or iCloud backups. Most people are digital hoarders and keep everything and just blindly backup everything to iCloud.

If you delete a message from an iPhone and those messages are not backed up to iCloud, the message body is irretrievable at every point of delivery, except recipients.

Recipients of messages are also human and rarely delete stuff. A subpoena for phone records will go after every phone number, recipient and receiver of said messages. Authorities can get metadata from the carriers which will indicate to them messaging activity between two or more parties but they can’t see the message body. It’s encrypted.

In almost all cases of subpoenaed phone records, they get the message straight off the sending device, or the recipients device.

There is some software that can pull low level storage chunks off a device that haven’t yet been overwritten but the window of opportunity for capturing that stuff is very very narrow. And you’re still dealing with encrypted data.

Deleting messages from your device is a good idea. Disabling iCloud backup an even better idea. Reboot your phone after deleting stuff.

Best idea of all - don’t be a douchebag criminal.

Not sure why you got downvoted so much, but your last sentence is golden.

"Best idea of all - don’t be a douchebag criminal."

It's funny. I don't even consider deleting stuff. No reason to. 

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Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, having direct communications with Ghislaine Maxwell. Casey is also Chairman of the IOC's LA 2028 Olympic Committee - for now. What a tangled web they wove!

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2/11/2026 12:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2026 12:45pm
Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times...

Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, having direct communications with Ghislaine Maxwell. Casey is also Chairman of the IOC's LA 2028 Olympic Committee - for now. What a tangled web they wove!

Ok now the babysitter jokes aren’t cool

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Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times...

Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, having direct communications with Ghislaine Maxwell. Casey is also Chairman of the IOC's LA 2028 Olympic Committee - for now. What a tangled web they wove!

I remember talking about that on here like 3-4 months after the original story broke. I’m pretty sure a photo surfaced of one of the Wasserman’s with Epstein?

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Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times...

Reading today that quite a few "stars" (now to include Abby Wambach) are bailing out on the Wasserman Agency because Casey Wasserman is mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, having direct communications with Ghislaine Maxwell. Casey is also Chairman of the IOC's LA 2028 Olympic Committee - for now. What a tangled web they wove!

Rickyisms wrote:
I remember talking about that on here like 3-4 months after the original story broke. I’m pretty sure a photo surfaced of one of the Wasserman’s...

I remember talking about that on here like 3-4 months after the original story broke. I’m pretty sure a photo surfaced of one of the Wasserman’s with Epstein?

I think he was with baby soros the coke head. same same tho. 

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The little bit I saw on the interwebs suggests that Casey sent some flirty emails to Ghilane. From what I had seen, it sounded like he was an admirer of hers, not a customer. But what the hell do I know?  

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I mean......is anyone shocked.

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