Good 2 stroke riders

kage173
Profile picture for user kage173
Posts
3064
Joined
11/27/2015
Location
USA
kage173 1/4/2026 6:58am
1/4/2026 6:58am
rwj500 wrote:
Suggestion time...After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? (  two stroke only,  it...

Suggestion time...

After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..

Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? 

(  two stroke only,  it would be awesome to watch..)

kage173 wrote:

Like an actual race? Or you're talking 3 lap time trials?

rwj500 wrote:

like a 30 min moto....all racing  two strokes

Carson gets waxed. 

2
noracenofun
Profile picture for user noracenofun
Posts
29
Joined
12/26/2023
Location
Gemünden, DE
noracenofun 1/4/2026 8:54am
1/4/2026 8:54am

Maybe Simon Längenfelder!?

2

The Shop

See All »
Alex814
Profile picture for user Alex814
Posts
1237
Joined
12/18/2014
Location
USA
Alex814 1/4/2026 7:42pm
1/4/2026 7:42pm
Bobby Barracuda wrote:

I thought Brett Metcalfe was the last, or was that last factory 125?

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Nick raced longer than Metty though, I’m not articulating it well, sorryLike, Nick was the last guy out there racing supercross that had raced a factory...

Nick raced longer than Metty though, I’m not articulating it well, sorry

Like, Nick was the last guy out there racing supercross that had raced a factory 125 in his day

Billy Laninovich

1
rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 1/5/2026 11:39am
1/5/2026 11:39am
noracenofun wrote:

Maybe Simon Längenfelder!?

he is very fast,   but im meaning someone now not under any contracts,,,or able race him at the vmxdn

1
Rosso391 1/5/2026 11:59am
1/5/2026 11:59am
Johnny Ringo wrote:

I think he meant Nick was the last *active rider that had raced a  factory125 professionally in the US. 

Oh yeah...I forgot about Metcalf. But I'm still waiting for the receipts on this "Nick Wey on a factory 125" business.

3
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8219
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 1/5/2026 12:57pm
1/5/2026 12:57pm
Johnny Ringo wrote:

I think he meant Nick was the last *active rider that had raced a  factory125 professionally in the US. 

Rosso391 wrote:

Oh yeah...I forgot about Metcalf. But I'm still waiting for the receipts on this "Nick Wey on a factory 125" business.

Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

IMG 9786 1
1
Rosso391 1/5/2026 1:07pm
1/5/2026 1:07pm
Johnny Ringo wrote:

I think he meant Nick was the last *active rider that had raced a  factory125 professionally in the US. 

Rosso391 wrote:

Oh yeah...I forgot about Metcalf. But I'm still waiting for the receipts on this "Nick Wey on a factory 125" business.

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

IMG 9786 1

Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory Yamaha".

7
Kevin852
Profile picture for user Kevin852
Posts
442
Joined
9/27/2018
Location
Apple Valley, CA, USA
Fantasy
2007th
Kevin852 1/5/2026 1:35pm
1/5/2026 1:35pm
NicNak wrote:
Dante & Dare rip on 2 strokes. On a smoother track I’m sure Carson could be in contention but on a smoked rough track I think...

Dante & Dare rip on 2 strokes. On a smoother track I’m sure Carson could be in contention but on a smoked rough track I think they could. 

1st & 2nd at 2 stroke nationals  this year I think 

ccullins76 wrote:
Having been at the 2 stroke national, Derek Drake was definitely the fastest guy there.  His bike just broke in moto 2 while he had a...

Having been at the 2 stroke national, Derek Drake was definitely the fastest guy there.  His bike just broke in moto 2 while he had a comfortable lead.  
I seem to remember Carson was the 2nd fastest guy, just not great starts and maybe a crash? 

One thing that is forgotten in this whole discussion is you have to ride the 2t in the meat of the powerband, while that means keeping the revs up that also means not over revving the bike.  Modern 4t’s rev higher than current 2t’s and I see a lot of guys who jump to the 2t just rev the crap out of the bike and not go anywhere. 

Carson was 2nd fastest in moto 1 and 5th fastest in moto 2 at the 2025 2-stroke champs at GH. 

Derek Drake was 3 seconds faster in the first moto 2:28.8 versus 2:30.7

Second moto was Drake 2:32.1, Dante Oliveira 2:32.2, Dare Demartile 2:35.4, Bryson Gardner 2:35.7, Carson Brown 2:36.7

Overall was:

Oliveira 3-1

Demartile 4-2

Brown 2-4

Gardner 5-3

Drake was 16th o/a with 1-34

1
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8219
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 1/5/2026 2:36pm
1/5/2026 2:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2026 2:38pm
Rosso391 wrote:

Oh yeah...I forgot about Metcalf. But I'm still waiting for the receipts on this "Nick Wey on a factory 125" business.

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

IMG 9786 1
Rosso391 wrote:
Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory...

Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory Yamaha".

Im not articulating the point well, sorry. I’m just gonna move on. Nick raced later than James, he was the last *active pro that had raced one at one point in his career, until Lano. 

YoT was the factory Yamaha 125 effort in 2001, though.

1
web mx
Profile picture for user web mx
Posts
992
Joined
3/3/2010
Location
USA, MI, USA
web mx 1/5/2026 4:53pm
1/5/2026 4:53pm
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

IMG 9786 1
Rosso391 wrote:
Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory...

Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory Yamaha".

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Im not articulating the point well, sorry. I’m just gonna move on. Nick raced later than James, he was the last *active pro that had raced...

Im not articulating the point well, sorry. I’m just gonna move on. Nick raced later than James, he was the last *active pro that had raced one at one point in his career, until Lano. 

YoT was the factory Yamaha 125 effort in 2001, though.

James last season and national was summer 2016.

Wey's last season was 2016 SX series ,then over a year later he came out of retirement in 2017 to race his home track  national at Redbud which was his last race.

If Wey hadn't come out of retirement for that one race Stewart would have raced later.

2
rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 2/3/2026 1:06pm
2/3/2026 1:06pm
rwj500 wrote:
Suggestion time...After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? (  two stroke only,  it...

Suggestion time...

After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..

Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? 

(  two stroke only,  it would be awesome to watch..)

Help/ suggestions

Any one wanting a ride at vmxdn...

Top flight riders.. ..

1
2
Flatliner
Profile picture for user Flatliner
Posts
4256
Joined
11/3/2009
Location
CA
Flatliner 2/3/2026 2:20pm
2/3/2026 2:20pm
Rosso391 wrote:

Oh yeah...I forgot about Metcalf. But I'm still waiting for the receipts on this "Nick Wey on a factory 125" business.

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

Here you go…but Alex814 above had a good pull on Lano maybe being the latest “had ridden a factory 125” guy that was out there circulating 

IMG 9786 1
Rosso391 wrote:
Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory...

Lol from 2001? James Stewart was on a legit Factory 125cc in 2004. Making him the last 125 Factory rider, since YoT team still wasn't "Factory Yamaha".

You could add milsaps to that list.  He rode a factory 125 in 04.

profeshenal125 2/3/2026 2:41pm
2/3/2026 2:41pm
rwj500 wrote:
Suggestion time...After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? (  two stroke only,  it...

Suggestion time...

After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..

Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? 

(  two stroke only,  it would be awesome to watch..)

rwj500 wrote:

Help/ suggestions

Any one wanting a ride at vmxdn...

Top flight riders.. ..

I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine. Still hangs with heavily modded YZ,s.  Ryan mills as a rookie got 4th in sx on the 04 cr125.  

6
rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 2/3/2026 6:55pm
2/3/2026 6:55pm
rwj500 wrote:
Suggestion time...After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? (  two stroke only,  it...

Suggestion time...

After watching Carson brown  battle some of the best..

Who would you suggest that can run with him, or possibly beat him? 

(  two stroke only,  it would be awesome to watch..)

rwj500 wrote:

Help/ suggestions

Any one wanting a ride at vmxdn...

Top flight riders.. ..

profeshenal125 wrote:
I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine...

I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine. Still hangs with heavily modded YZ,s.  Ryan mills as a rookie got 4th in sx on the 04 cr125.  

Hi..

I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s

  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )

All I need is pilots with the same love as me.  

 

1
2
blockhead17
Profile picture for user blockhead17
Posts
2831
Joined
6/13/2018
Location
Tokyo, JP
blockhead17 2/3/2026 7:22pm
2/3/2026 7:22pm

I wanna see brown vs Reed on chads 04 bike!

1
KiwiBermRailer 2/3/2026 7:59pm
2/3/2026 7:59pm

Profes 125 would be my pick on a modded ‘96 CR125 with a boysen Reed valve. 

1
4

Pit Row

See All »
CPR
Profile picture for user CPR
Posts
6998
Joined
10/4/2018
Location
AU
CPR 2/4/2026 12:04am
2/4/2026 12:04am
blockhead17 wrote:

I wanna see brown vs Reed on chads 04 bike!

Through SX whoops…..

rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 2/4/2026 2:30am
2/4/2026 2:30am
blockhead17 wrote:

I wanna see brown vs Reed on chads 04 bike!

CPR wrote:

Through SX whoops…..

Sorry to hijack..

I'm looking for riders, for this event.

To race against the best. 

2
profeshenal125 2/4/2026 7:51am
2/4/2026 7:51am
rwj500 wrote:

Help/ suggestions

Any one wanting a ride at vmxdn...

Top flight riders.. ..

profeshenal125 wrote:
I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine...

I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine. Still hangs with heavily modded YZ,s.  Ryan mills as a rookie got 4th in sx on the 04 cr125.  

rwj500 wrote:
Hi..I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )All I need is pilots with...

Hi..

I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s

  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )

All I need is pilots with the same love as me.  

 

Ah I,m pretty sick right now. I can’t see myself riding a 500 right now in the condition I,m in. But 125 specialist R always Great 500 riders.  In 2000 Dobb proved that on the open bike at the Des Nations in 2000. 

3
profeshenal125 2/4/2026 8:46am
2/4/2026 8:46am
KiwiBermRailer wrote:

Profes 125 would be my pick on a modded ‘96 CR125 with a boysen Reed valve. 

I weighed myself lastnight 161.8 that’s after 40 min sauna & 20 min whirlpool .  Working on sharpening my quickness etc .  Narrow focus on 125 riding.  I am looken for a clean 93-97 cr125.  

1
4
rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 2/4/2026 10:50am
2/4/2026 10:50am
profeshenal125 wrote:
I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine...

I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine. Still hangs with heavily modded YZ,s.  Ryan mills as a rookie got 4th in sx on the 04 cr125.  

rwj500 wrote:
Hi..I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )All I need is pilots with...

Hi..

I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s

  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )

All I need is pilots with the same love as me.  

 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Ah I,m pretty sick right now. I can’t see myself riding a 500 right now in the condition I,m in. But 125 specialist R always Great...

Ah I,m pretty sick right now. I can’t see myself riding a 500 right now in the condition I,m in. But 125 specialist R always Great 500 riders.  In 2000 Dobb proved that on the open bike at the Des Nations in 2000. 

Hope your on the mend

1
1
rwj500
Profile picture for user rwj500
Posts
130
Joined
5/29/2019
Location
GB
rwj500 2/4/2026 12:00pm
2/4/2026 12:00pm
profeshenal125 wrote:
I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine...

I,d Love to race the VMXDN . All I need is a 04 cr125 chassis . I hv the last national LL championship spec cr125. Engine. Still hangs with heavily modded YZ,s.  Ryan mills as a rookie got 4th in sx on the 04 cr125.  

rwj500 wrote:
Hi..I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )All I need is pilots with...

Hi..

I have available. X 3. 250  s.  Or. X2 500 s

  All ready to go bikes. (  and mega trick )

All I need is pilots with the same love as me.  

 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Ah I,m pretty sick right now. I can’t see myself riding a 500 right now in the condition I,m in. But 125 specialist R always Great...

Ah I,m pretty sick right now. I can’t see myself riding a 500 right now in the condition I,m in. But 125 specialist R always Great 500 riders.  In 2000 Dobb proved that on the open bike at the Des Nations in 2000. 

I have had a few nice guys contact me

1
2
Timo
Profile picture for user Timo
Posts
1469
Joined
1/9/2021
Location
Wichita, KS, USA
Timo 2/5/2026 6:03am
2/5/2026 6:03am

This just made me think of Carson at the erzberg rodeo, he won the prolog which is based on raw speed. Then in the actual race he said dudes with beer bellies were passing him in Carl's dinner 😂.

1

Post a reply to: Good 2 stroke riders