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You can tell it's AI because they didn't talk about the seat or grips being too hard, although some of our riders liked it.
JC goes hard with the AI lol.
Lol MXA trolled everyone.
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Trolled me for sure. What makes it worse is that what they did post today was ridiculous in general.
Almost a year since I posted this. Haven't read any of the thread since but the daily notifications make me chuckle. Prado set them back that much I guess?
the average people in management at Kawasaki have never heard of Prado and for sure they dont give a shit about him
I can't believe there is now 62 pages on this non event.
Take the A2 Rumor with a grain of salt. But the Stew Baylor thing is true. Obviously that doesn’t mean much because we still don’t know when they’re gonna hit showroom floors.
Regardless what happens, Kawasaki jumped the shark so hard a year ago I couldn’t care less anymore. Marketing and hype disasterclass.
I wonder if they were riding a prototype of the 2-stroke when they jumped the shark. 😬
But did the shark jump the gun?
I understand that offroad/woods is a huge segment, but man any personal interest I have in this topic will instantly deflate if there isn't a moto specific version coming of whatever they're making.
Rumors say both moto and XC versions just as there’s X versions of the 250/450 bikes now.
It was just announced a year ago. How could they have jumped the shark a year ago 😂
Moto turned it's back on 2T's long ago. The only reason they're still around and more are considering returning to the market is because the off-roaders have kept the torch burning.
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Moto needs more budget options. 4 strokes have become $10k+ high tech rocket ships. Not everyone needs that. There are plenty of people like me out there who want to be or stay involved in moto but we can’t afford it anymore. There’s deeper issues obviously (insurance, noise, etc), but I think the move to 4 strokes is why a lot of local track scenes have completely died out in the last two decades. It made the sport way too damn expensive for the average weekend warrior and rider count and track demand has fallen off a cliff compared to the early/mid 2000s.
Sure we already have the YZ, but having additional modern affordable 2t moto options from a Japanese OEM could only help the industry grow IMO. You want to grow the sport? Put more asses on seats.
This has been discussed to death in the years since the 4 stroke takeover of MX, but I believe 4 stroke noise carries much farther than 2 stroke noise. Having fewer tracks/riding areas closed/harassed because of noise issues would not be a bad thing for our sport, at the everyday Joe level. But KMC needs to be a little quicker on the follow up.
I'd love to hear about that RM250 and SXS
Everything you say is correct, but it ain’t gonna change.
The YZ125 & 250 aren’t the “affordable” option anymore either.
You’re not wrong, but a YZ250 at $8,100 is much more palatable than a YZ450F at $10,300. Plus the reduced maintenance costs for the YZ. Agreed they are pretty overpriced for mostly ancient tech though.
I know it’ll never happen but I firmly believe if Suzuki came out with a half decent RM125 & RM250 at around the $6-7k mark it could single handedly pull Suzuki cycles out of purgatory. They’re already looked at as the “budget” choice in the 450/250f markets and still have a healthy following despite putting out nearly untouched bikes for over a decade. They should lean into that more.
Fuck it, be the Toyota Corolla of the moto world. It may not be flashy but if it’s affordable and it works you’ll sell a ton of them.
I’d rather buy a Suzuki than a Kawasaki. I don’t think I’ll buy a kawie if they ever offer one. But a Zook? Hell yeah. And I am a Honda man.
I would love to see a KX350 4-stroke alongside a 2-stroke KX300X and KX MX version. Realistically though, a KX125 would probably sell the best.
No way. A 300 off-road bike would absolutely sell better than a 125.
An offroad specific 300 would make alot of folks happy except ktm. They couldnt sell them fast enough.
It's by far the biggest 2 stroke market, trail, hard enduro, hare scrambles.
If I had input with kaw, a 300 or 325 just to 1 up the Austrians.
If it's TBI then it really needs a tuner app. And map switch, fuel, timing, pv mapping, live data, code diag and clearing.
Mirror the tsp erm but in a phone app.
Needs to be tight turning with an adjustable dog bone to allow 3 lowering settings. 5mm,10mm, 20mm
Peg adjustments 5mm back, 5mm down.
Gobbs of torque and low end grunt.
I have a dream lol
Pretty much. Then add that everyone i know that has bought a yz or yzx turns around and throws 1k $ at it for whatever reason.
I'm guilty
head, fww, hitliss, 300 kit, gearing, I tuned the suspension myself, so I saved there.
I picked up a new 23' for 7k otd and have maybe 8500 into it.
However, it's a really good bike and just a blast to ride, only 2 complaints....
No counter balance, no adjustable pv.
Reason I got it was because it's as mechanically simple as it gets, requires very little maintenance so in the long run cost of ownership will pay off.
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