So who is the AM that doesn’t buckle their own helmet?

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Doug Henry asked a fan to unbuckle his helmet for him. Had two broken wrists from a YZ400 crash so that excuse is acceptable. Others not so much. 

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yak651 wrote:
When Phil was in studio they were talking about riders putting their own bike on the stand. Phil mentioned there is an amateur rider that only...

When Phil was in studio they were talking about riders putting their own bike on the stand. Phil mentioned there is an amateur rider that only his dad can buckle him up. Any ideas of who? How does that even work, the kid has never went riding without his dad?? So strange…

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Maybe it's a dad and son moment they share.Like every time my kid was about to take off I'd say "Come back smiling. I love you".I...

Maybe it's a dad and son moment they share.

Like every time my kid was about to take off I'd say "Come back smiling. I love you".

I don't know. Just playing devil's advocate. 

I thought/hoped the same. That being said the youth of this nation are whining, belly aching, and lazy. Far too obsessed with fairness or safety, things that really do not exist in reallity. My cousin Spencer lied about his age and volunteered for WWII when he was 15 and ended up an officer, airborne. Wrote a book about it too. That was common then. Now that is the age parents are pushing a kid through an amusement park in a stroller hoping they don't get "triggered" or "symptomatic". Most sub 25 yr olds that apply for a job at my business are driven there by their moms and have never paid income tax. I had a 21 yr olds dad show up at my business to ask me to tell the help to quit teasing his kid. Of course there are some fine young people, but the standards of the past are toast. Sorry, not sorry, it's sad.

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truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

My daughter is 30, married two kids, just bought her second house. Fuck yeah its expensive, but her and her husband work their asses off. As my wife and I did, and his parents, the grandparents, on and on. And no, she didn't get help from me, both her and husband worked fulltime through school, bought their first house on graduation. The hours and lack of sleep they got wasn't fair, or safe, but they got what they really wanted. Of course they don't have "me" time or "gaming" time or three TVs or get to "party". Most of their friends, (who they take hours from at work, when their friends don't want extra hours) state they shouldn't work so hard. Yet my daughter and her husband laugh at how easy it is to compete in todays workforce. And young people today do not understand life is that, competition.

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truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

Average means nothing. Places like NYC, Beverly hills, Naples etc. throw off averages. There are plenty of places in this country with reasonable housing. This country has a history of people moving from place to place depending upon where jobs and housing opportunties were. Now because the current generation is willing to sit and cry poor rather than do something about it and move like past generations did housing prices are not reacting to competitive market forces.

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truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

truck wrote:
At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.htmlNow look up the...

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and honeymoons in places I've never heard of. Years ago you went to Niagara, Vegas, or camping for a honeymoon, now it's not good enough for all the Disney princesses. Primma Donnas.

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MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

Spoonguy wrote:
My daughter is 30, married two kids, just bought her second house. Fuck yeah its expensive, but her and her husband work their asses off. As...

My daughter is 30, married two kids, just bought her second house. Fuck yeah its expensive, but her and her husband work their asses off. As my wife and I did, and his parents, the grandparents, on and on. And no, she didn't get help from me, both her and husband worked fulltime through school, bought their first house on graduation. The hours and lack of sleep they got wasn't fair, or safe, but they got what they really wanted. Of course they don't have "me" time or "gaming" time or three TVs or get to "party". Most of their friends, (who they take hours from at work, when their friends don't want extra hours) state they shouldn't work so hard. Yet my daughter and her husband laugh at how easy it is to compete in todays workforce. And young people today do not understand life is that, competition.

I feel many young people do not understand this, life is competition. Somebody wants your business, job, wife, career, house. And if you are not willing to outwork them, they will get it. And no it is not fair but it is life. If you are crying housing is expensive where you live, it is because somebody is willing to outwork or outearn you for it, it is a competition for dollars.  If they outcompete you for housing next they will take your career, or anything else you are not willing to outwork them for. What are you willing to do to beat them....they will do more. Like grandpa always said life is about waking up in the morning, getting behind the mule, and plow.

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My grand daughter has a little bag of tools, allen wrenches, screw drivers and whatnot, they’re just the little crappy tools that come with stuff that I’d typically throw away. She also has a spot in one of my tool boxes where she can reach them. She likes to “work” on her bicycle more than ride it, soon to be a stacyc bike. She also knows the name of each one. Unfortunately, she will not have the same experience at home as her dad is lazy and doesn’t know how to work on anything. 

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when i was 5 years old on pw50s, i thought it was a given that everyone raced supercross one day and id be like MC. 

i used to worry at the time of who the hell was going to crank my motorcycle on the starting line and tie my helmet for me in the stadiums. real stressed out about it for a couple of years. 

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ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

truck wrote:
At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.htmlNow look up the...

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and...

I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and honeymoons in places I've never heard of. Years ago you went to Niagara, Vegas, or camping for a honeymoon, now it's not good enough for all the Disney princesses. Primma Donnas.

My parents took motorcycle to Colorado and camped so my dad could ride up Pikes peak for their honeymoon lol

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Spoonguy wrote:
I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and...

I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and honeymoons in places I've never heard of. Years ago you went to Niagara, Vegas, or camping for a honeymoon, now it's not good enough for all the Disney princesses. Primma Donnas.

Are the “kids these days” in the room with us right now?

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truck wrote:
At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.htmlNow look up the...

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and...

I get a kick out kids bitching about how hard it is to make it today but have "destination" weddings costing 50 -100k at least, and honeymoons in places I've never heard of. Years ago you went to Niagara, Vegas, or camping for a honeymoon, now it's not good enough for all the Disney princesses. Primma Donnas.

truck wrote:

My parents took motorcycle to Colorado and camped so my dad could ride up Pikes peak for their honeymoon lol

Oh yeah, well my parents walked... because they were still waiting for the wheel to be invented.

And their parents were too busy inventing dirt to take a honeymoon - but when they got done they made "Do it in the dirt!" bumper stickers. 😄

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truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

Bullshit!! 1990 Average income was about $21,500 or household median income $30,000.

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Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. That actual act of lifting bike in...

Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. 

That actual act of lifting bike in that motion. 

Doesn’t that sound more realistic.  

mxbrian15 wrote:

If that were truly the case...

 

Get the rider a dang triangle stand.

That’s what I do most of the time unless I,,m changing sag.  I do 4-5 lap heaters then take a 10-20 min break. The triangle works...

That’s what I do most of the time unless I,,m changing sag.  I do 4-5 lap heaters then take a 10-20 min break. The triangle works Perfect.  The stand is usually used by some random chic in my pit. IMG 4285 1

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1/21/2026 5:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/21/2026 5:21pm
truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

web mx wrote:

Bullshit!! 1990 Average income was about $21,500 or household median income $30,000.

That's vaguely same ratio as ACBaiiley presented, even if you don't like his exact numbers,

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ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

web mx wrote:

Bullshit!! 1990 Average income was about $21,500 or household median income $30,000.

That's vaguely same ratio as ACBaiiley presented, even if you don't like his exact numbers,

No, He said $ 50,000 average income in 1990 when it was actually 21,500. $ 30,000 was household income in 90 if your wife worked too.

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web mx wrote:

Bullshit!! 1990 Average income was about $21,500 or household median income $30,000.

That's vaguely same ratio as ACBaiiley presented, even if you don't like his exact numbers,

web mx wrote:

No, He said $ 50,000 average income in 1990 when it was actually 21,500. $ 30,000 was household income in 90 if your wife worked too.

Either way, BARGAIN.

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There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money that allows you to build real wealth, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance while doing so, is much harder to do today than say 25 years ago. Not impossible but definitely much more difficult. 

Things have changed. It’s just a different world. Hard work and honesty don’t pay like they used to. Which is unfortunate for all of us. 

I live in New England for frame of reference. 

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Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n...

Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n daddy. I moved out making $5/hr. Made that my entire time in college. Guess what...I did ok. Didn't own shit, but paid my own way. Some kids these days are other worldly responsible and we see that in many. But, more and more, these people are getting fucking pathetic with their reasons for not being on their own. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Ok Boomer, back in “Your” day cost of living to income ratio was drastically different and you could actually do that.Heck my grandma, was a hair...

Ok Boomer, back in “Your” day cost of living to income ratio was drastically different and you could actually do that.

Heck my grandma, was a hair stylist who bought rentals and retired off of them eventually. A lot harder, and sometimes not even possible these days.

Mom said your time for the internet expired for the day bud. 

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truck wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Price-Privilege-Advantage-Generation-Disconnected/dp/006059585XHer more recent books are good as well. Parents, be warned, you're going to take some lumps if you read them. tl;dr version is character comes...

https://www.amazon.com/Price-Privilege-Advantage-Generation-Disconnected/dp/006059585X

Her more recent books are good as well. Parents, be warned, you're going to take some lumps if you read them. 

tl;dr version is character comes from hardship and if you remove all hardship your kid cannot develop character and as a result lacks the confidence to go out into the world. So well meaning parents have to be OK with their kids suffering to some degree, not getting first or being special at everything, etc, and modern well meaning parents suck at that. I think she uses the snow plow parenting analogy. Parents think they're helping by always clearing the path, but they're not. 

This book was written before social media exploded and that's only made the issues worse. 

There's also phenomenon where generations over correct for the mistakes of their parents generation. Lot of kids coming of age in the past 20 years were raised by parents who themselves were raised by hard ass silent generation and baby boomers. These parents over corrected and came up with gentle parenting and similar nonsense, and here we are. 

 

I don't know if that's really what's going on, my mom and dad were definitely not hard asses. I was never grounded and my parents didn't beat me either. My first two bikes and first vehicle were given to me for nothing, I still wanted to work and started on a farm at 13, started driving alone at 14, and moved out at 19. I think it's more of a societal thing happening with social media and these damn phones. When I was growing up I only had my parents, extended family, and friends parents as a reference. Most worked hard and those who didn't lived in crap trailers and drove shit cars. Now kids watch these people either lying about not working hard and living big, or actual rich mfers who don't have to do shit but have everything they want. Smart phones are both the most convenient and the worst invention ever...

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yak651 wrote:
When Phil was in studio they were talking about riders putting their own bike on the stand. Phil mentioned there is an amateur rider that only...

When Phil was in studio they were talking about riders putting their own bike on the stand. Phil mentioned there is an amateur rider that only his dad can buckle him up. Any ideas of who? How does that even work, the kid has never went riding without his dad?? So strange…

Back on topic. Regardless of the previous rationale I’m pretty confident he will buckle it from now on following that public humiliation. 

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truck wrote:
Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

truck wrote:
At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.htmlNow look up the...

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

That house you are talking about will still run 250,0000.

I'm sorry but you old fuckers are wrong and fucked it up for the young bloods.

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1/22/2026 3:13am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2026 3:15am

Now let's talk about trying to borrow that 250,0000. Yea you need more than a refection in the mirror compared to the good Ole days when our president said everyone should be a home owner and got a BJ

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Regardless of father/son bonding, if either one of my boys ever waited for me to buckle their helmet past the age of 6, they wouldnt be riding that dirt bike. My youngest literally quit riding when he was 5 because he was too lazy to pick the pw50 up when he fell and also put on his own boots. Now, lets be clear, I am fully aware that there are situations where a 5 year old just can not pick the bike up, and thats fine. Ive helped my other son pick it up many times, but my youngest thought he could just stand there and wait for me to do it, the other made an attempt every single time. Years later, the youngest started riding and everything has been status quo since then. Now they are 14 and 15, and ill be damned if im putting those bikes on a stand, doing oil changes, or chain adjustments. The only time I will do those things is on the race bikes, they are 100% responsible for the practice bikes. 

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There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money...

There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money that allows you to build real wealth, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance while doing so, is much harder to do today than say 25 years ago. Not impossible but definitely much more difficult. 

Things have changed. It’s just a different world. Hard work and honesty don’t pay like they used to. Which is unfortunate for all of us. 

I live in New England for frame of reference. 

"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or "safe space". Probably in the last 20 years or so. I really don't recall any grown man giving a shit about that until recently. My kids are predators of the sect that needs " healthy work - life balance" scooping up hours the like can' t handle and banking the overtime. Of course Grandma always had a day to get her hair done back in the day, so there is that. So I get some need "me time" for mental health, kind of like emotional support dogs - another new thing.

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ACBailey89 wrote:
Just did some digging Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.Yeah, things aren’t...

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

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At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.htmlNow look up the...

At least use the same data source for your income numbers. 1990 was 21k using same source as you're using for current wages. 

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Now look up the square footage of the average house built 40 years ago vs now. You can still build a 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom ranch on a slab with no garage if you want to for way less than that average and relatively less percentage of your income compared to 1990, but again, people don't want to do that. Cost and wages aren't the issue. Desires and priorities are. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

That house you are talking about will still run 250,0000.

I'm sorry but you old fuckers are wrong and fucked it up for the young bloods.

Of course it has to be somebody else's fault, doesn't it. Even if that is true, the fact is as a grown man what are you going to do about it? Civilizations crawled back from the total devastation of wars very recently and inflation/ housing kicks your ass, how self absorbed. That inflation and housing is a bummer for you and may be somebody else's fault doesn't eliminate any of your responsibilities as an adult. I don't understand the youths grasping at straws trying explain away their reasons for lack of achievement. Their is opportunity out there, that it may be more difficult than the past is irrelevant. Every generation owes to civilization, not the other way around.

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Now let's talk about trying to borrow that 250,0000. Yea you need more than a refection in the mirror compared to the good Ole days when...

Now let's talk about trying to borrow that 250,0000. Yea you need more than a refection in the mirror compared to the good Ole days when our president said everyone should be a home owner and got a BJ

Tough for you to get and pay off 250K? You need a new line of work friend.

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1/22/2026 5:10am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2026 5:10am
There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money...

There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money that allows you to build real wealth, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance while doing so, is much harder to do today than say 25 years ago. Not impossible but definitely much more difficult. 

Things have changed. It’s just a different world. Hard work and honesty don’t pay like they used to. Which is unfortunate for all of us. 

I live in New England for frame of reference. 

Spoonguy wrote:
"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or...

"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or "safe space". Probably in the last 20 years or so. I really don't recall any grown man giving a shit about that until recently. My kids are predators of the sect that needs " healthy work - life balance" scooping up hours the like can' t handle and banking the overtime. Of course Grandma always had a day to get her hair done back in the day, so there is that. So I get some need "me time" for mental health, kind of like emotional support dogs - another new thing.

Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.

Good luck with all your facebook arguments this week! I hope your other retired friends finally give up and join your political media team.

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There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money...

There isn’t a single successful boomer I know, that’s genuinely successful and not just posturing, that has any problem admitting that making the kind of money that allows you to build real wealth, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance while doing so, is much harder to do today than say 25 years ago. Not impossible but definitely much more difficult. 

Things have changed. It’s just a different world. Hard work and honesty don’t pay like they used to. Which is unfortunate for all of us. 

I live in New England for frame of reference. 

Spoonguy wrote:
"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or...

"Healthy work - life balance" is one of those new phrases we have been privy to isn't it. Much like the phrases "gaming" or "triggering" or "safe space". Probably in the last 20 years or so. I really don't recall any grown man giving a shit about that until recently. My kids are predators of the sect that needs " healthy work - life balance" scooping up hours the like can' t handle and banking the overtime. Of course Grandma always had a day to get her hair done back in the day, so there is that. So I get some need "me time" for mental health, kind of like emotional support dogs - another new thing.

3strokemx wrote:
Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.Good luck with all your...

Sounds like your view of the world is shaped by influencers,   I can't read your comments without hearing Bill Oreilly's voice.

Good luck with all your facebook arguments this week! I hope your other retired friends finally give up and join your political media team.

Yeah, no. I don't even know what an "influencer" does, and Oreilly is a windbag. People do develop opinions based on obvious observations.

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