When Phil was in studio they were talking about riders putting their own bike on the stand. Phil mentioned there is an amateur rider that only his dad can buckle him up. Any ideas of who? How does that even work, the kid has never went riding without his dad?? So strange…
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On that subject… Keefer mentioned a factory rider from Spain a few weeks ago that sat on his bike over 5 mins waiting for mechanic to arrive. Wonder who that was 😂
I was there when that happened. Kris was fuming. 😂
This stuff isn’t surprising, there’s been a generation of kids now not taught how to take care of themselves and transition into adulthood. No driver’s license at 16, no desire to move out and start a family. Mostly due to parents who are either lazy, or reluctant to teach them how to do it for some weird fear their kids might not be dependent on them. I know, I know, “get off my lawn!”
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What were they waiting for exactly?
For their mechanic to put his bike on the stand…
I gotta say if ya know much about enmeshment and highly self involved parents they have a hard time with their child gaining independence from them…and as long as theyre still children (12ish and under at least) it’s not their fault their parents create such a fu**ed up dynamic.
These top amateurs mostly come from a truck load of money and told that they’re the absolute best or that their performance was terrible and they’re yelled at from the time they’re 7. There isn’t any balance or emotional development in any of that. Not in a useful way in the real world.
Weekend warriors spending time with their dad learning to lose and respect how lucky they are to have a dirt bike and enjoy the sport on the other hand teaches a truck load of good life skills
No way, really? ML has confirmed it though so i guess it's true. Crazy.
Im confused, waited for the mechanic to arrive to do what?
was talking about this yesterday w/ the wife. We're new "empty-nesters" in our late 40s. We both were working like crazy at 18, moved out, sought independence, wanted nothing from our parents, etc.
Now we have kids that are 19,20...and these kids are sitting around playing video games, no real interest in moving forward in life, and are wasting some of the best/most productive years of their lives despite she and I constantly hammering them with suggestions on moving forward. I told my mom yesterday "I guess it's our generation's fault, but I don't understand it."
My only conclusion is that they've been told their whole lives that they can make $1m making IG clips or something. I truly don't understand it.
I thought it was waiting 5 mins for his mechanic to get on the bike to ride into the stadium. I was really confused the thought of putting the bike on the stand never crossed my mind
Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury.
That actual act of lifting bike in that motion.
Doesn’t that sound more realistic.
Maybe it's a dad and son moment they share.
Like every time my kid was about to take off I'd say "Come back smiling. I love you".
I don't know. Just playing devil's advocate.
fair point but at what age should the buckling of the helmet stop??? would be weird to have some guy like jett having his dad still buckle his helmet right?
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It's also interesting that it's coinciding with professional athletes able to perform at the highest level later in life.
Almost like some sort of environmental factor is making people slightly more retarded each generation.
Has anyone checked the water and food supply?
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Individuals gonna individual.
Mine's 20, Studied abroad in Taiwan for a year by his own choice, and now is nearly finished with his physics degree away from home at another US university. I miss having him around.
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Buckling should stop when old man wants it to stop. The kid already knows the ritual is for dad, not him.
It’s too easy now, everything and everybody is in the palm of your hand at any given moment. I saved up 3 summers just to buy my first bike and then had to learn how to keep it running if I wanted to ride.
soft...
I feel like there is more to the story we don’t know.
agreed. it's beyond weird. I've been self employed my entire life (same as wife) and we've worked like dogs. So it's not like the kids have watched us sitting around collecting handouts. But kids don't drive at 16 anymore. They don't have real conversations. They don't date. They don't seem to show the drive/initiative that older generations have had. (yes, I'm speaking very generally - your child is a wonderful outlier). I just don't get it and we've given out kids every single chance to grasp at opportunity and move forward, but it's like they just shrug their shoulders and dive back into their phones. It depresses me greatly.
it's not soft, man. My dad used to come to me on the starting line and say a brief prayer into my helmet before every race. This, of course, after he invariably had to run into the woods and take a leak due to nervous energy. Miss that ol' codger and would give anything to hear one of his prayers.
This new generation want to be alpha so bad yet they can’t put their bike on a stand. lol
I am beyond grateful that my son wants his driver's license right now, and that he already has plans for his college major (he's 16). Some of his friends don't think far enough ahead to know how they will be getting home from the damn mall.
Soft, my old man did that in one summer. Three summers? You need to work harder.
Back to the topic at hand: if you talk to some of these younger amateur kids, some of them are very weird. Lots of them lack social skills and seem several years behind where they should be maturity-wise.
Combine this with riders not putting their own bike on the stand or not being able to buckle their own helmet and I think you’ve got a couple of things going on because of things like kids living at training facilities, being “home schooled”, coupled with the fact that amateur motocross isn’t really a middle-class sport anymore.
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't.
https://www.amazon.com/Price-Privilege-Advantage-Generation-Disconnected/dp/006059585X
Her more recent books are good as well. Parents, be warned, you're going to take some lumps if you read them.
tl;dr version is character comes from hardship and if you remove all hardship your kid cannot develop character and as a result lacks the confidence to go out into the world. So well meaning parents have to be OK with their kids suffering to some degree, not getting first or being special at everything, etc, and modern well meaning parents suck at that. I think she uses the snow plow parenting analogy. Parents think they're helping by always clearing the path, but they're not.
This book was written before social media exploded and that's only made the issues worse.
There's also phenomenon where generations over correct for the mistakes of their parents generation. Lot of kids coming of age in the past 20 years were raised by parents who themselves were raised by hard ass silent generation and baby boomers. These parents over corrected and came up with gentle parenting and similar nonsense, and here we are.
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