Asked to stop racing as a condition for a promotion

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Has anyone ever experienced this? What was your decision?I'm coming into my late 20s and I ride around 200-300 hours a year of hard enduro and...

Has anyone ever experienced this? What was your decision?

I'm coming into my late 20s and I ride around 200-300 hours a year of hard enduro and trials and of course have picked up a few injuries over the years, with a couple that bug me day to day. I moved to a less physical role a few years ago so I mostly drive all day and make assessments rather than doing the actual work.

Today I was given the offer of a pathway to stepping up to a higher position and that they were willing to pay for private healthcare to fully sort out my long term injuries. However they weren't willing to do it if I was still going to be taking part in action sports, they don't expect me to stop riding but to basically take it easy and no racing or risks. Fair enough really from their side, I couldn't perform all the duties required if injured or even just beat up from a crash the week before.

Pretty easy choice to me though! I'm off riding tomorrow

mark_swart wrote:
But if you were riding a street bike they would probably be A-Okay with that. Stuff like that really pisses me off - it's over reach...

But if you were riding a street bike they would probably be A-Okay with that. Stuff like that really pisses me off - it's over reach. When I was in the Army people would sometimes say I shouldn't race, yet at the same time you can have a 21 year old come home from a deployment and buy a CBR 900, complete a two day rider instruction course somehow that's okay. Needless to say, I kept racing. Maybe just don't put your footage on YouTube haha. 

Their thinking could be something along the lines of “Get in an accident racing dirt bikes, we have to have someone do your job while you recover then put you back in the position when you return. Get in an accident on a street bike, we attend your funeral on Thursday and start onboarding your replacement the next Monday…..”

Sounds like he’s clarified that they are asking him to not “race”. They’d probably not want him doing any actual road racing, either. 

Hard choice to make, though, especially if you’ve been involved in a niche industry for a while. Might not have as many potential employers to choose from without having to relocate, uproot the family, etc. 

For those with the belief that employers can’t regulate what you do away from the workplace, that’s definitely not always the case. The local transit authority in central Washington (Wenatchee) won’t hire anyone who uses any type of tobacco products at all. It may be that they are able to get away with it because they are a public entity, but they’ve had that policy for probably at least 20 years. 

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12/3/2025 6:51pm Edited Date/Time 12/3/2025 6:52pm

Take the position, keep going, and share less information going forward. 

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12/4/2025 5:58am
3strokemx wrote:

if he died today they'd start trying to replace him tomorrow.

And if he has kids next year, crashes and is paralysed, he’ll have no medical insurance & can’t support his kids. It’s important to realise when to...

And if he has kids next year, crashes and is paralysed, he’ll have no medical insurance & can’t support his kids. 

It’s important to realise when to grow up.
 

Just because he doesn't take the job, doesn't mean he can't get insurance...

But he'd be paying for it. If he takes the job, his employer is paying for it.
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12/4/2025 6:13am
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I've never had a job tell me I can't ride, but I took off for 12 months between last year and this year to prioritize a...

I've never had a job tell me I can't ride, but I took off for 12 months between last year and this year to prioritize a project I was working on. I thought to myself "I'll stack some extra cash, stocks, and valuable experience" 

All of that happened, but I also gained 35 lbs from Mammoth 24 to June 25. I was depressed. I would make an excuse and push getting back on the bike longer and longer. I had a shorter fuse with those around me, I wasn't as happy in front of my kids, and I was probably a worse husband because of the self loathing that comes along with each passing month off the bike. 

Now I look at the money I made and I have turned down multiple next job opportunities and contracts because they want me to grind like I did and now I know I'll never sacrifice time off the bike uninjured again. Jobs come and go but you'll never ever get seat time missed back again in your life. Once the opportunity is gone it's lost forever and all you have is what's ahead if you're lucky. 

💯

Same thing here. Didn't have the time or cash to ride much while in school and then took a high stress / high paying job right when I got out. Spent the next five years gaining weight and becoming a person I didn't want to be. My health and relationships suffered because of it. I don't have many regrets in life, but that's one of them.

Never again.

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12/4/2025 6:24am
Ob917 wrote:

You can get killed walking your doggie!

motoxxx599 wrote:
A lady in my neighborhood was killed recently while walking her dog. A car lost control and ran her over on the sidewalk. Could happen to...

A lady in my neighborhood was killed recently while walking her dog. A car lost control and ran her over on the sidewalk. Could happen to any of us. No one looks back at the end of their life and is happy about the chances they didn't take.

That’s sad. I was just quoting Al Pacino in the movie Heat 

Shit happens, better have fun while you can. 

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12/4/2025 7:35am
Ob917 wrote:

You can get killed walking your doggie!

motoxxx599 wrote:
A lady in my neighborhood was killed recently while walking her dog. A car lost control and ran her over on the sidewalk. Could happen to...

A lady in my neighborhood was killed recently while walking her dog. A car lost control and ran her over on the sidewalk. Could happen to any of us. No one looks back at the end of their life and is happy about the chances they didn't take.

What about the dog……is it ok

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12/4/2025 7:43am

UK guy here too, ask work to put the contract in writing as you want to mull it over, call around a few decent solicitors.  Most will offer a 1 HR face to face verbal consultation, you need an employment specialist.   Costs are roughly in the £150 area.    Used this type of service many times for different things.   It's when they have to put pen to paper they start rubbing their hands!   

 

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12/4/2025 8:02am Edited Date/Time 12/4/2025 8:50am

I’m a small business owner.  My income is directly affected by my employees showing up and doing their job.


That being said.  They do not live to work and they do not survive to create income for my business.  They work to enjoy their life and it would be unfair of me to ask them to do less of what they enjoy for the sake of my business.

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12/4/2025 8:57am

Unless they plan on paying you 24/7 I wouldn’t let a company control my life off the clock.

Just my opinion.

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12/4/2025 10:07am

As it stands I've officially told them that I have plans in place for next year on a personal level that I'm not willing to compromise on for the job. 

I won't hear back until next week but looks like I'm going to get a payrise in my current role but plateau out here for a while. I chased the money for three years a while ago and was pretty miserable so I'd rather just ride, race and have a great time for a while whilst I've got no kids or family to support.

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12/4/2025 11:10am
I’m a small business owner.  My income is directly affected by my employees showing up and doing their job.That being said.  They do not live to...

I’m a small business owner.  My income is directly affected by my employees showing up and doing their job.


That being said.  They do not live to work and they do not survive to create income for my business.  They work to enjoy their life and it would be unfair of me to ask them to do less of what they enjoy for the sake of my business.

Kudos to you! Happy employees are productive and loyal employees. 

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12/4/2025 12:09pm
But he'd be paying for it. If he takes the job, his employer is paying for it.

So at that point, having medical insurance is a choice irrelevant of the job.
 

But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting list for non urgent care. 

If i crash , and break my arm, i go to the ER and get seen and fixed for £0. 

 

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12/4/2025 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 12/4/2025 1:11pm
philG wrote:
But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting...

But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting list for non urgent care. 

If i crash , and break my arm, i go to the ER and get seen and fixed for £0. 

 

Although we all speak English, there must be a language/dialect barrier here. "Thisusername" implied that the OP and his family would be helpless without insurance in the case of a catastrophic accident, which could only be obtained by the employer's offer of a conditional promotion. I was merely stating that the OP could obtain insurance privately, if it was a concern. Therefore, making the implied statement that he and his family would be helpless, a moot point. This isn't even factoring in the fact that the OP would be currently "helpless" under the present circumstances, pre promotion, under this assumption. 

All this to say, in this instance, the issue of having insurance being the deciding factor in taking, or not taking the job, pretty irrelevant. 

I'm a stickler about many things and logic ranks high on my list of priorities. I didn't intend to offend anyone, I just wanted to point out the flawed logic in that decision making path. Once again, I hope OP chooses the route that best benefits him, even if that means giving up (to some degree) something he loves.

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12/4/2025 1:50pm
But he'd be paying for it. If he takes the job, his employer is paying for it.

So at that point, having medical insurance is a choice irrelevant of the job.
 

philG wrote:
But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting...

But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting list for non urgent care. 

If i crash , and break my arm, i go to the ER and get seen and fixed for £0. 

 

He says his job is ‘physical’. 

Could he do that with a blown ACL? 
Current wait times for non-critical surgery = 43 weeks. Plus recovery..

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12/4/2025 3:07pm

Be a Harvey Mushman or be a slave to the system. The vitards cant tell you anything more about your life than you already know.

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12/4/2025 3:09pm

So at that point, having medical insurance is a choice irrelevant of the job.
 

philG wrote:
But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting...

But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting list for non urgent care. 

If i crash , and break my arm, i go to the ER and get seen and fixed for £0. 

 

He says his job is ‘physical’. 

Could he do that with a blown ACL? 
Current wait times for non-critical surgery = 43 weeks. Plus recovery..

🤨

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12/4/2025 3:21pm
philG wrote:
But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting...

But we get healthcare in the UK already , what this means he can jump the queue to get seen, rather than going on a waiting list for non urgent care. 

If i crash , and break my arm, i go to the ER and get seen and fixed for £0. 

 

He says his job is ‘physical’. 

Could he do that with a blown ACL? 
Current wait times for non-critical surgery = 43 weeks. Plus recovery..

neverwas wrote:

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physical like a male escort or physical like a trash collector?   Well only one of those would offer a high dollar contract that could make me consider not racing.  Hey some ladies like a man in a wheelchair, gives them a sense of power or something, kinda weird but there is probably a big market for it.  You go guy! Make that money.

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mxbmx wrote:
I understand their perspective but telling someone how to live their life outside of work is ridiculous.From personal experience it also comes down to sportsism (is...

I understand their perspective but telling someone how to live their life outside of work is ridiculous.

From personal experience it also comes down to sportsism (is that a word?). Years back I destroyed my shoulder from riding BMX, needed surgery and was limited to light duties at work while waiting for surgery. The company treated me like shit, berated me and basically threatened to fire me if I didn't stop riding. Another guy at work wrecked his knee playing football, the most popular sport in Australia. They championed him, rallied around him and tried to do anything they could to support him until he was good to go. Long story short, I ended up quiting after they wanted me to come back to work 2 weeks post surgery despite doctor's orders to not be at work at all for a minimum 6 weeks. I reported them to WorkSafe and never looked back 

Crazy they wanted you to come back so early h after a non-work injury. Usually they take time bringing you back so if you reinjure yourself you can’t blame it on work. If you get hurt at work they usually try to get you back asap doing light duty stuff to limit injury rates

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