Asked to stop racing as a condition for a promotion

12/2/2025 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 2:30pm

Seems reasonable. They want to help you heal. Is that worth not racing? That’s for you to decide. 

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12/2/2025 2:21pm

Seems reasonable. They want to help you heal. Is that worth not racing? That’s for you to decide. 

I agree it's reasonable. Ultimately they are a business and there to make money and I would be an investment for them, from their perspective why invest in someone that's going to keep throwing themselves at the scenery every week. 

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oldman59
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12/2/2025 2:26pm

From your post, they didn’t say to stop riding completely. Just racing and taking risk. That’s reasonable and fair to me. You’re not a pro getting paid to race or take risks, but you are getting paid for a specific job. You’re still pretty young and have a lot of years left in you. Take the money, the promotion and the compromise and enjoy it. You can race again at a later time. Just enjoy riding and getting more money. 

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12/2/2025 3:27pm

The USAF really made my boy jump through hoops to enlist. Multiple concussions and 2 plated bones got their attention and he had to do a battery of tests to be accepted. So racing is over for us for now. Maybe he will come back to it in time, maybe not. Life will go on either way but I sure do miss our time at the track together.  1000s of hours over many years. Change is constant tho and sometimes you sacrifice. 

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12/2/2025 3:32pm

Only the insurance company cares.

Use an alias for racing, if you get hurt tell them it was an organized meet, not a competition.

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12/2/2025 3:44pm

In this job market and economy? ...And you don't even have to fully stop riding?

I'd take the money.

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12/2/2025 3:59pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 4:00pm
spimx wrote:
Just take the raise and don't tell them when you race. What state are you in? It may be a labor law that they can't fire...

Just take the raise and don't tell them when you race. What state are you in? It may be a labor law that they can't fire you for your out of work hobbies 

It has nothing to do with labor laws. The employer can have stipulations on the job and if he agrees and then violates the agreement then he can be fired. For example CINTAS is a large company and they have a NO TABACCO stipulation to work there, you take the job and get caught using any Tobacco product you are fired on the spot and its not just at work its anywhere and even on your own time. CINTAS has  great health benefits because they only hire non tobacco users so they can be picky who they hire. 

Hell the OP will never make money racing so he should take the money and just ride for fun. 

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12/2/2025 4:13pm

yea im unsure how theyd even know you are racing.... like just don't tell them? 

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12/2/2025 4:48pm
themx11 wrote:

yea im unsure how theyd even know you are racing.... like just don't tell them? 

There aren’t results online for tracks in the UK?

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12/2/2025 6:35pm

You can get killed walking your doggie!

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12/2/2025 6:54pm

I’d be looking for a new job. They look at you as a slave, that they can’t control. 

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12/2/2025 7:38pm

I occasionally fall off a ladder working in my yard...

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12/2/2025 7:42pm

Ask for conditions of how to spend your free time.The time your away from work is your time.

Try a negotiation 

No luck on any of those

Brush up on your CV and seek employment elsewhere 

If my employer told me I couldn’t do a recreational sport .i would seek new employment……

I’ve been at my employer for 32 yrs I’m number 20 from the top on a seniority list that holds 146 .

I am actively seeking a new employer for different reasons

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12/2/2025 7:59pm
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But if you were riding a street bike they would probably be A-Okay with that. Stuff like that really pisses me off - it's over reach...

But if you were riding a street bike they would probably be A-Okay with that. Stuff like that really pisses me off - it's over reach. When I was in the Army people would sometimes say I shouldn't race, yet at the same time you can have a 21 year old come home from a deployment and buy a CBR 900, complete a two day rider instruction course somehow that's okay. Needless to say, I kept racing. Maybe just don't put your footage on YouTube haha. 

Yeah, remember when both Army and USAF were main sponsors for SX/MX at various times and using it as a recruiting tool?  Then once you join they tell you that you are not allowed to ride!  😵  I actually had a buddy in the AF that was threatened with a line of duty investigation for an MX injury.  His CO actually backed off when he showed him some USAF SX sponsorship media!  Remember, MX injuries are bad, but it's totally fine to blow your knee out on the unit basketball or softball team !

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12/2/2025 8:35pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 8:36pm

FGR01 : "Remember, MX injuries are bad, but it's totally fine to blow your knee out on the unit basketball or softball team ! "

Yes- the 'two faced' aspect of that sort of thing is despicable.

In the over 5 decades of me having many operations - and not that many due to my Motorcycling -  I've encountered that nearly constantly.

So, I'm very direct with my bringing people up short when they start in on "Motorcycle Injuries", and Not Riding MCs. Be they the average person, or, Medical People / Lawyers etc. I tell them to pull their head in, politely, unless they keep on with the crap. 

My earliest Ortho, that did a Huge amount of work on me over many years, was Not the usual "you shouldn't do that" type.

 He was the head Ortho for the RAAF - Royal Australian Air Force - ( as well as his Private Practice) , so dealt with all sorts of injuries, and, his best line was "You can Die Falling off a Roadside Curb - Live Your F**king Life To The Full". And, he Really hated how So Many of his fellow Doctors would slag MC injuries, whilst promising to others, to  "Get You back On Your Skis / On the Field etc" as soon as possible. I wish I could find an Ortho like BJ Collins again.

As to the Original Poster's dilemma, I hope he sorts it out to His benefit.

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12/2/2025 10:13pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 10:15pm

I've never had a job tell me I can't ride, but I took off for 12 months between last year and this year to prioritize a project I was working on. I thought to myself "I'll stack some extra cash, stocks, and valuable experience" 

All of that happened, but I also gained 35 lbs from Mammoth 24 to June 25. I was depressed. I would make an excuse and push getting back on the bike longer and longer. I had a shorter fuse with those around me, I wasn't as happy in front of my kids, and I was probably a worse husband because of the self loathing that comes along with each passing month off the bike. 

Now I look at the money I made and I have turned down multiple next job opportunities and contracts because they want me to grind like I did and now I know I'll never sacrifice time off the bike uninjured again. Jobs come and go but you'll never ever get seat time missed back again in your life. Once the opportunity is gone it's lost forever and all you have is what's ahead if you're lucky. 

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12/2/2025 10:33pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 10:34pm

Keep riding.   If you ever get hurt again, tell them you fell off a ladder.   That's actually what my boss told me to say years ago when i missed some time.   I found out later that he rode too, but was totally hiding it from the company.

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12/2/2025 11:35pm

All jobs come and go.

Don't do something that you're going to regret later based solely on money.

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12/3/2025 12:51am

Take the position and keep riding. Nothing they can do about it. 

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12/3/2025 1:35am
Just for some clarity it's a small company with people I know very well and its a physical job (also exceptionally niche so I tend to...

Just for some clarity it's a small company with people I know very well and its a physical job (also exceptionally niche so I tend to be pretty vauge online) so when there's only a couple of people that can do it you become very important. If it was an office job I wouldn't care and nor would they.

I'm in the UK and they definitely can't fire me or force me to sign it but as with most things they can request it, especially if they are putting extra money and time towards physio on injuries that they didn't cause. Realistically with the laws in the UK I could ignore it but I operate on being true to my word and keeping my name clean and well regarded so it's not an option for me to lie or even just hide the truth.

If it was me, Id take the job. You can still ride, albeit 'casually'? You can still go find other stuff that entertains you. You won't 'love' Moto as much as you do forever. everything wears off over time. You do however need a good career forever (so to speak). You will no doubt in the next decade have kids, then that seriously affects how you feel about Moto and taking risks. You could crash this weekend and never be able to ride again, then you have no riding and no promotion/health insurance. Im afraid its bigger picture for me. Id take the job.
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12/3/2025 2:28am
Has anyone ever experienced this? What was your decision?I'm coming into my late 20s and I ride around 200-300 hours a year of hard enduro and...

Has anyone ever experienced this? What was your decision?

I'm coming into my late 20s and I ride around 200-300 hours a year of hard enduro and trials and of course have picked up a few injuries over the years, with a couple that bug me day to day. I moved to a less physical role a few years ago so I mostly drive all day and make assessments rather than doing the actual work.

Today I was given the offer of a pathway to stepping up to a higher position and that they were willing to pay for private healthcare to fully sort out my long term injuries. However they weren't willing to do it if I was still going to be taking part in action sports, they don't expect me to stop riding but to basically take it easy and no racing or risks. Fair enough really from their side, I couldn't perform all the duties required if injured or even just beat up from a crash the week before.

Pretty easy choice to me though! I'm off riding tomorrow

Hell no and I'm not sure if I would laugh uncontrollably or flip out. Probably a combo of both in no specific order. First at the thought I'd even consider that for any reason but also for thinking that's an acceptable thing to ask or demand of an employee for any reason.(One exception, if your missing to much or underperforming bc your hurt or sore that's different) if it were me and I agreed  I doubt I'd last 6 months. When I stopped racing everything else fell apart and was depressed. I won't say what you do when you go home is none of there business. Your actions reflect on your employer good and bad. There only concern should be if your a good person or not. If your hobbies include being arrested, attending kkk rallys, being an asshole or being a quad rider then that's understandable. Racing dirt bikes isn't morally wrong. Just about every person i've met at the races no matter how successful they are in life or on track are nice people. 

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12/3/2025 6:26am

I left a job that paid me $20,000 more a year to work someplace that allows me to ride and race more. Through this current job I was connected to a Supercross team that I know get to work with regularly which is still surreal to me. Not everything is about money. You made the right choice. 

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12/3/2025 7:07am

My insurance policy has a clause that they may not cover if injured during competition.  The biggest problem I've had is that they always assume it was an auto type accident where my car insurance would be involved and I have to jump through the hoops to demonstrate it was off-road.  

I work in an office, so I used to get shamed for injuries but they didn't direct me to quit.  I did remind them once that adult softball is one of the most injury prone sports and we had an office softball team.  Funny thing is, when I've gotten hurt on the mountain bike, it was a completely different reaction.  I don't think people realize how healthy you need to be to ride moto.  

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12/3/2025 7:45am
Motofinne wrote:

Take the position and keep riding. Nothing they can do about it. 

Some of us have integrity & strong moral principles.

if he died today they'd start trying to replace him tomorrow.

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12/3/2025 8:22am

They've got a right to ask and you've got the right to say no.  You each just have to own and be content with the outcome of your choices.  

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12/3/2025 2:11pm
Motofinne wrote:

Take the position and keep riding. Nothing they can do about it. 

Some of us have integrity & strong moral principles.
3strokemx wrote:

if he died today they'd start trying to replace him tomorrow.

And if he has kids next year, crashes and is paralysed, he’ll have no medical insurance & can’t support his kids. 

It’s important to realise when to grow up.
 

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12/3/2025 2:31pm
Some of us have integrity & strong moral principles.
3strokemx wrote:

if he died today they'd start trying to replace him tomorrow.

And if he has kids next year, crashes and is paralysed, he’ll have no medical insurance & can’t support his kids. It’s important to realise when to...

And if he has kids next year, crashes and is paralysed, he’ll have no medical insurance & can’t support his kids. 

It’s important to realise when to grow up.
 

Just because he doesn't take the job, doesn't mean he can't get insurance...

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12/3/2025 3:22pm
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My high school football coach asked me to stop racing during the season and I said no so he said he would demote me to backup...

My high school football coach asked me to stop racing during the season and I said no so he said he would demote me to backup center so I quit. He was stunned, my dad was ecstatic, and my mom is still mad at me 35 years later. 

The same EXACT thing happened to me in high school, except is was with my basketball coach. He pulled me aside one summer and told me that I had to make a choice: basketball or dirt bikes. I would never race or even practice moto during basketball season, but he still didn't like it.

 

He was absolutely stunned and couldn't believe me when I chuckled and told him how easy of a decision that would be. I walked out of that gym that morning and never looked back. One of the best decisions of my life.

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12/3/2025 5:48pm
Ob917 wrote:

You can get killed walking your doggie!

A lady in my neighborhood was killed recently while walking her dog. A car lost control and ran her over on the sidewalk. Could happen to any of us. No one looks back at the end of their life and is happy about the chances they didn't take.

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