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11/15/2025 8:49pm
aeffertz wrote:
It only took 30 minutes of racing for Eli to look at home on the KTM for me. Sheesh!What a great showing for Tomac and KTM...

It only took 30 minutes of racing for Eli to look at home on the KTM for me. Sheesh!


What a great showing for Tomac and KTM. BOOM!💥 

Agree, just reading body language, I think he’s really feeling good on the KTM.  If he likes it, it’s going to be fun this year.

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IMO, last weekend's racing was boring, but tonight was much better. 

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11/15/2025 8:51pm
Gravel wrote:

Either Eli was fading or his shock was fading. And I don’t think Eli was the one fading. 

How is KTM not fixing this? 

MPJC wrote:

It’s a short race - neither should be fading. Maybe those whoops are sketchy and Ken just rode exceptionally well. 

aeffertz wrote:
Not saying the shock was fading but they haven’t touched the whoops and Max has been blitzing them fine in the next race. It’s been years now...

Not saying the shock was fading but they haven’t touched the whoops and Max has been blitzing them fine in the next race. 

It’s been years now that everyone has said the Austrian bikes struggle through the whoops. Not crazy to think KTM hasn’t light switch fixed the problem since Tomac got on the bike. 

Eli killed it in race 3, he looks great and the bike looks great. After seeing him swapping in the whoops a bit during the last half of race 2 it looked like there was a problem, but he figured it out! 

 

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11/15/2025 8:51pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

IMO, last weekend's racing was boring, but tonight was much better. 

Agreed

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Stoked for Anderson 👍  love seeing him back on yellow 

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11/15/2025 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 11/15/2025 9:00pm

Honestly friends, this WSX stuff is much better. 

VERY worth watching as off season stuff

It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing in Vancouver probably learned more about their bikes and programs than a traditional offseason race. 

So far two races in and both tracks produced 55 second lap times. 

I could do without Ralph. Fro and Daniel would be really good I think and then if Fro can't make a round sub in an ex pro rider as analyst like they did for nationals. 

Overall, everyone that is a true fan should be rooting for this serious to continue on this trajectory. There is an amazing spot as the top offseason way to prep for wildcard big names and then have a ton of guys who can top 10 an AMA race for the entire series. Honestly, who cares if it runs against an outdoor or two next year as well? Who outside of Eli and JCoop would we be missing out on from tonight? It seems the smart play would be to have like 4 rounds over the summer and then introduce the 4 wild card rounds in October and end the series in November. 

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Call it the senior tour if you want, but the entire top tier SX1 class almost all over 30 (few getting close to 30) it was some great racing tonight.

Webb, Mookie, RJ, etc in the same club just absent tonight in Canada. 

Basically the Lawrence, Sexton, and Deegan show for the younger generation against the senior tour. Would love for Tomac or Roczen to end up on top at the end of 2026. 

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11/15/2025 9:03pm

I can't believe people pay Justin hill to race....

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11/15/2025 9:03pm

Honestly friends, this WSX stuff is much better. 

VERY worth watching as off season stuff

chasetwo79 wrote:
It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing...

It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing in Vancouver probably learned more about their bikes and programs than a traditional offseason race. 

So far two races in and both tracks produced 55 second lap times. 

I could do without Ralph. Fro and Daniel would be really good I think and then if Fro can't make a round sub in an ex pro rider as analyst like they did for nationals. 

Overall, everyone that is a true fan should be rooting for this serious to continue on this trajectory. There is an amazing spot as the top offseason way to prep for wildcard big names and then have a ton of guys who can top 10 an AMA race for the entire series. Honestly, who cares if it runs against an outdoor or two next year as well? Who outside of Eli and JCoop would we be missing out on from tonight? It seems the smart play would be to have like 4 rounds over the summer and then introduce the 4 wild card rounds in October and end the series in November. 

Good post...but I would have to think through your mx national vs wsx angle...but...gosh these guys really seem to make bank off SX...

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Honestly friends, this WSX stuff is much better. 

VERY worth watching as off season stuff

chasetwo79 wrote:
It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing...

It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing in Vancouver probably learned more about their bikes and programs than a traditional offseason race. 

So far two races in and both tracks produced 55 second lap times. 

I could do without Ralph. Fro and Daniel would be really good I think and then if Fro can't make a round sub in an ex pro rider as analyst like they did for nationals. 

Overall, everyone that is a true fan should be rooting for this serious to continue on this trajectory. There is an amazing spot as the top offseason way to prep for wildcard big names and then have a ton of guys who can top 10 an AMA race for the entire series. Honestly, who cares if it runs against an outdoor or two next year as well? Who outside of Eli and JCoop would we be missing out on from tonight? It seems the smart play would be to have like 4 rounds over the summer and then introduce the 4 wild card rounds in October and end the series in November. 

You had me until you said it should compete against the motocross series'. Nope.

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Trickamoto wrote:

I can't believe people pay Justin hill to race....

Honestly, you almost just have to respect how the Hill brothers can swindle their way onto teams at this point. Good for them Grinning

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11/15/2025 9:06pm

Got a feeling KTM will give us a very strong tomac come outdoors.

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11/15/2025 9:08pm Edited Date/Time 11/15/2025 9:10pm

Excellent racing in Vancouver tonight: Roczen, Tomac battles, Max Anstie domination.

The broadcast was, for me, pain free. Ralph did not even bother me! Though I wish he would say "Grand Prix" and not "GP". 

Actually think WSX production tonight was better than a Feld SX broadcast. 

For example I was thinking that the WSX  screen-in-screen in the standings section on the left side of the screen is superior to the Feld split screen method. 

Daniel Blair is superior to RC in announcing roles. He speaks clear English and does not try to go outside of his vocabulary comfort zone. 

Kristen Beat is starting to shine, too. 

Downside? Lala Turner, the WMX gal. Not sure what why they promoted her presence. 

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11/15/2025 9:11pm

Got a feeling KTM will give us a very strong tomac come outdoors.

This round felt like the "Holy shit Eli still has it" race.

I cannot wait for 2026!

Feld an MXSports should be thanking WSX for the free promotion to their series! 

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Simonson was disqualified. 

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Honestly friends, this WSX stuff is much better. 

VERY worth watching as off season stuff

chasetwo79 wrote:
It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing...

It's hands down closer to AMA SX than an other off season race. After watching both Paris and WSX tonight it's clear that the boys racing in Vancouver probably learned more about their bikes and programs than a traditional offseason race. 

So far two races in and both tracks produced 55 second lap times. 

I could do without Ralph. Fro and Daniel would be really good I think and then if Fro can't make a round sub in an ex pro rider as analyst like they did for nationals. 

Overall, everyone that is a true fan should be rooting for this serious to continue on this trajectory. There is an amazing spot as the top offseason way to prep for wildcard big names and then have a ton of guys who can top 10 an AMA race for the entire series. Honestly, who cares if it runs against an outdoor or two next year as well? Who outside of Eli and JCoop would we be missing out on from tonight? It seems the smart play would be to have like 4 rounds over the summer and then introduce the 4 wild card rounds in October and end the series in November. 

aeffertz wrote:

You had me until you said it should compete against the motocross series'. Nope.

I don't mean all. They just said they may run against 1 or two nationals next year. But if you look at the SX1 guys, most of them won't be racing moto full time next year anyhow. This keeps riders who can't or don't want to grind moto full time making money and in the sport for some Moto and all of SX and WSX. It's a natural progression for older riders to want to ween off the brutal moto weekends. 

Now if the series was taking runs at trying to poach guys who run top 5 in outdoors, then I'd have a problem. But does anyone really care if Hombre, Craig, Savagty, Colt Nichols choose to race WSX over outdoors at this point in their life and age? 

And thanks to SMX, they almost have to run at least 1-3 outdoor rounds to keep points for SMX so everyone wins 

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11/15/2025 9:31pm

I gotta say; I’m watching the Paris SX now after tonight’s WSX and the comparison reminds me of when I first watched WSX after AMA SX. WSX is definitely improving year over year. Like someone else said, it is starting to feel more like an American Supercross.

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11/15/2025 9:43pm

WSX results 

250 superpole 

57.335 = Max Anstie 
57.582 = Coty Schock
57.915 = Enzo Lopes
58.721 = Cullin Park 

450 superpole 

55.034 = Justin Cooper
55.787 = Eli Tomac 
55.815 = Joey Savatgy 
56.192 = Ken Roczen 

250 sprint 1 

+0.000 = Max Anstie
+3.701 = Coty Shock
+4.455 = Enzo Lopes
+10.536 = Cole Thompson
+10.552 = Cullin Park
+10.582 = Michael Hicks
+12.289 = Shane Mcelrath 
+13.125 = Kyle Peters
+17.531 = Maxime Desprey
+20.089 = Kyle Chisholm 

450 sprint 1 

+0.000 = Eli Tomac 
+1.849 = Jason Anderson 
+2.730 = Ken Roczen
+4.721 = Christian Craig 
+5.476 = Justin Cooper
+8.920 = Joey Savatgy 
+22.293 = Henry Miller
+24.449 = Gregory Aranda
+25.898 = Jorge Zaragoza 
+26.176 = Vince Friese 

250 sprint 2 

+0.000 = Max Anstie
+2.372 = Coty Schock 
+5.305 = Enzo Lopes 
+9.495 = Cullin Park
+11.804 = Kyle Peters 
+12.801 = Cole Thompson 
+13.362 = Michael Hicks 
+14.360 = Shane Mcelrath 
+22.101 = Kyle Chisholm 
+23.868 = Wilson Todd 

450 sprint 2 

+0.000 = Ken Roczen 
+1.948 = Eli Tomac 
+10.782 = Jason Anderson 
+11.524 = Joey Savatgy 
+15.597 = Christian Craig 
+27.375 = Austin Politelli 
+32.287 = Gregory Aranda
+33.959 = Jordi Tixier
+34.901 = Justin Hill
+35.565 = Henry Miller 

250 final 

+0.000 = Max Anstie
+3.834 = Coty Schock 
+6.768 = Enzo Lopes
+9.110 = Cullin Park 
+10.543 = Kyle Peters
+11.526 = Shane Mcelrath 
+12.607 = Michael Hicks 
+21.411 = Cole Thompson 
+24.081 = Robbie Wageman
+29.375 = Lance Kobusch 

450 final 

+0.000 = Eli Tomac 
+2.449 = Ken Roczen 
+15.388 = Justin Cooper
+17.024 = Jason Anderson 
+18.261 = Christian Craig
+18.651 = Joey Savatgy 
+32.386 = Henry Miller
+40.410 = Austin Politelli
+44.113 = Jorge Zaragoza 
+47.683 = Gregory Aranda

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11/15/2025 9:48pm

This was great to watch.

Ando, Eli and Ken made be so excited for next SX season.

Honorary mention to Christian Craig, he looks damn good on the Honda. He deserves this after the last 3 years! 

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11/15/2025 9:54pm

Fastest laps of the races 

250 sprint 1 

55.380 = Max Anstie
55.661 = Enzo Lopes
55.670 = Coty Schock 
56.177 = Kyle Peters 
56.230 = Shane Mcelrath 
56.340 = Michael Hicks
56.379 = Cullin Park 
56.567 = Maxime Desprey 
56.614 = Cole Thompson
57.243 = Kyle Chisholm 

450 sprint 1 

54.298 = Ken Roczen 
54.575 = Jason Anderson 
54.638 = Eli Tomac 
54.993 = Joey Savatgy 
55.034 = Justin Cooper
55.262 = Christian Craig 
56.736 = Devin Simonson
57.040 = Jordi Tixier
57.198 = Henry Miller 
57.231 = Gregory Aranda 

250 sprint 2 

55.769 = Max Anstie 
56.054 = Coty Schock 
56.168 = Cole Thompson
56.180 = Enzo Lopes
56.393 = Cullin Park
56.732 = Shane Mcelrath 
57.067 = Kyle Peters
57.098 = Michael Hicks 
57.238 = Maxime Desprey 
57.501 = Lance Kobusch 

450 sprint 2 

53.862 = Ken Roczen 
53.911 = Eli Tomac 
55.162 = Justin Cooper
55.763 = Joey Savatgy 
55.809 = Jason Anderson 
55.881 = Christian Craig 
56.834 = Ryan Breece
56.859 = Austin Politelli
56.923 = Gregory Aranda
57.245 = Henry Miller 

250 final 

56.144 = Coty Schock 
56.210 = Max Anstie 
56.423 = Shane Mcelrath 
56.547 = Enzo Lopes
56.576 = Cullin Park 
56.670 = Kyle Peters
57.107 = Michael Hicks
57.333 = Cole Thompson
57.659 = Noah Viney
57.934 = Lance Kobusch 

450 final 

54.128 = Eli Tomac 
54.333 = Ken Roczen
55.158 = Justin Cooper
55.303 = Joey Savatgy 
55.672 = Jason Anderson 
55.826 = Christian Craig 
56.347 = Henry Miller
56.579 = Jorge Zaragoza 
56.657 = Austin Politelli 
57.528 = Gregory Aranda 
 

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11/15/2025 10:01pm

That was fun to watch in person. Track looked challenging but fun. Tomac looked solid, Anstie looked like he wasn't even trying. Not sure what it looked like on tv but the crowd was piss poor, but then again Vancouver crowds are always tame in my experience.

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11/15/2025 10:03pm

Also can anyone that watched on tv fill me in on what happened to Chiz? Just caught the aftermath of his crash and didn't see any replay but he did not look in a good state

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11/15/2025 10:13pm
mxbmx wrote:
Also can anyone that watched on tv fill me in on what happened to Chiz? Just caught the aftermath of his crash and didn't see any...

Also can anyone that watched on tv fill me in on what happened to Chiz? Just caught the aftermath of his crash and didn't see any replay but he did not look in a good state

Never really showed it but it looked like he was nursing his leg. He seemed really off the pace even before that though, too. 

11/15/2025 10:52pm

WSX may very well take over as the premier Supercross racing series within the next 10 years. 

Better format provides for better racing, laps instead of timed races keep the track in decent shape, shorter time on the track keeps racing tighter (no lappers in the 250’s and maybe 2 in the 450’s), and traveling the world is pretty darn cool. 

AMA Supercross may have to make some serious format changes to be competitive if WSX keeps gaining momentum and makes more and more money.  I can see in the future AX, SX, and WSX as the tiered organizations. 

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11/15/2025 11:29pm

Great race, but no real surprises. I get that the whoops were breaking down and nasty, but after what I watched I still have concerns about Eli's bike in the whoops.

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aeffertz wrote:

What do yall think about the no mechanics allowed at the gate rule? I actually kinda like it. 

I like it. 

Mechanics at the gate is like parents following their 10 yo kid 😄

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kylemenz1 wrote:
WSX may very well take over as the premier Supercross racing series within the next 10 years. Better format provides for better racing, laps instead of timed...

WSX may very well take over as the premier Supercross racing series within the next 10 years. 

Better format provides for better racing, laps instead of timed races keep the track in decent shape, shorter time on the track keeps racing tighter (no lappers in the 250’s and maybe 2 in the 450’s), and traveling the world is pretty darn cool. 

AMA Supercross may have to make some serious format changes to be competitive if WSX keeps gaining momentum and makes more and more money.  I can see in the future AX, SX, and WSX as the tiered organizations. 

I can’t see a time when WSX ever surpasses AMA SX, and I don’t think that’s their intention, but making quality SX accessible to more international fans is a win for everyone imo.

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11/16/2025 12:39am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Simonson was disqualified. 

Simonson was disqualified. 

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There is a minor miracle in this pic, they now show gap to first instead of gap to previous rider.

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11/16/2025 1:28am

No mention of "chaos corner" or "glacial till". I love it!

There was a bunch of good racing, and the ability to watch Paris, and then WSX almost back to back was interesting. 3 races in two days! This off-season has been pretty entertaining. 

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Light the candles lol

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