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Hick's finished 10th and 7th in the two races he wasn't hit with an 'exceeding power' penalty but 4th in the race he was penalized and only a couple tenths slower than Anstie in the Superpole where he was also penalized... 🤔
What are we looking at here? Michael Hicks results??
The penalties listed on the bottom of the results pages. Hicks was penalized 4th to 9th in race 2 and to last in superpole due to exceeding power regulations.
Not a good first impression if they want to race in AMA
Maybe they added more power to compensate for the weight? Are the Starks restricted in arenacross and have they been protested in that series?
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I don't see how it would even be possible if they're using the competition lockout feature, as far as I'm aware that essentially makes it impossible to change your power settings for a designated amount of time. I'm also very curious how they're confirming that he did indeed exceed the power limit.
If stark own factory team has been caught cheating on the first day of their apparent full proof lock out feature, it brings into question if any federation or promotor can trust that feature,
I can’t imagine that it would be that difficult for an engineer to be able to toggle back and forth between maps from the side of the track. It would be almost impossible to eliminate cheating unless the sanctioning body owned and controlled all the computers and just gave them to the racers to install just before the gate dropped. Electric bikes need to race with electric bikes.
Cheating to weak results even before being penalized.
Isn't it supposed to be "the best motocross bike there ever was?"
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If Stark is clever they will communicate about this. Starks have been locked at 48 hp (against 250s) and 60 hp (against 450s) in all series they race, wether amateur or pros in Spain, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Austria, Argentina, Chile, Australia, USA and so on.
Their race mode locking max power has been developed with FFM, Motorcycling Australia and FIM for 2 years and I haven't seen any issues before this WSX race. Organizers and sanctioning body have access to all data logging after each practice/race, which is presumably how they've seen there was an issue.
Oddly, FIM rules for WSX upped the usual max power levels to 44 kW (60 hp) and 54 kW (74 hp) for SX2 and SX1, respectively.
I can't see why Hicks would want more than 60 hp. In fact I'd be surprised if they did use 74 hp in SX1 (previously they were using 55 hp even when they were limited to 60 hp because it was more rideable).
They clearly fumbled and need to explain what happened here. Maybe FIM can share some more details as Hicks was not disqualified but merely penalized in time or positions, I'm wondering by how much he got over?
He’d probably want more power for the starts. Just like SX riders with scoop tires, most racers will trade performance on the track for a holeshot.
Honestly , Did we think any of the Battery bike team riders were going beat Kenny no matter what the power setting?
They uncorked the vacuum cleaner during race 3 because there was a parlay on Fanduel. Hicks made 25 bit coins on the scheme.
Maybe Stark should add some gasoline powered bikes with manual clutches and transmissions to their product line and compete legitimately with ALL the other manufacturers???🤔
I would love to hear some sort of explanation about this, from either Stark or WSX. I would assume if they did, it would be for the start. But if they were already allowed to be at 60hp for the 250s, that seems crazy.
Offer any of the riders outside of the top 5 in the US and they'll throw any race possible for 25 bitcoin
Hmmm. A Stark Varg was penalized because it is too good in its stock form and must be regulated down to compete with everybody else's works bikes. Sounds like great marketing for Stark to me.
How do you throw a race if you're not in the top 5....
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What the competition will do to try to keep up with the number 38! Hahaha. Gotta love a cheater.
Now let’s see some other OEMS cheat to keep up with danger.
Only one id trust these days is Suzuki since they don’t even care enough to make an E Start
25 bit coin is $2.5 million. An NBA player just got caught throwing a game for $250k
Star racing and Haiden cheated at an amateur race.
Pssst - there is NO way to prevent cheating w electric bikes.... short of a fuse or circuit breaker... zero way wsx or the "ama' could tell without a dyno
Deegan was racing a 450 this weekend, not the 250 class…
Yeah, can't be cheating. Gotta play by the rules. Can't have an unfair competetive advantage...you know like double the cc engine size when the four stroke was shoved down our throats.
They can review the voltage and current from the bikes battery management system from the period of the race, and compute the power generated by the motor.
Seems incredibly dumb for them to cheat by fooling with the power level. Maybe a start mode or launch control that’s disallowed?
That's not even remotely true, there are multiple ways they can detect cheating, that's why I'm curious to see which (if any) method the FIM is using in this case. The easiest method would probably be to require data logging that is then turned in to the FIM after the race, it would be very easy to see if max allowable current was exceeded for an appreciable length of time. You have to allow for some small current spikes that will far exceed the allowable limit for instances like jump landings for hitting whoops, any time the rear wheel goes from free spinning to under load you will have a momentary current spike that needs to be disregarded.
But by all means everyone, please continue to throw out wild speculation before we know anything at all about the situation aside from a penalty being issued. Considering this is the first penalty we've seen against Stark after multiple years of racing in multiple series I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt until more info is released.
Can he change it while riding via a switch setting?
Can the controller surge past set power limits while trying to achieve an acceleration or v level/limit? (I’m thinking 3D map type situation where one level is ignored while trying to achieve another priority…?)
HP=(V∗I∗E∗PF)/746
What's preventing the manufacturer from underreporting their efficiency or otherwise obfuscating other variables in the Voltage to HP conversion for their event data log?
Sorry, I meant Hot Dogs, not bit coins. Read a weird translation from Argentinian and got confused.
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