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Hopefully they take it nice and easy. Those boys are full send. Nothing to be gained by wadding up in some meaningless sx rounds. I was at Ironman, they were both really impressive. Especially Lucas
Musquin Ferrandis Hunter and Jett, Shimoda, Vialle, Prado, Roczen etc demonstrate a compelling reason to come here exists. MXGP needs to get their act together or that will become a feeder series for AMA.
Losing the Coenen brothers would be a pretty big blow to MXGP, imo. At least when top Euro riders were migrating during the early 2010's, the series had a lot of talented young riders coming up through the ranks. But right now, MXGP has a serious aging problem, and in my opinion, not as many MX2 replacement options as they've had in years past.
Somebody, if they can, need to put those boys on the tightest possible leash.
One more than the other, but if those kids can throw it down the road like they do on a GP track...
Best wishes to get home safe from a handful of supercross entries.
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I don't know but them boys worry me on a SX track they ain't scared to go full send.. 😆Not hating.
It'll definitely be interesting to see how they do. I think Lucas has the ability to tone it down when he needs to. Sacha on the other hand is more like a light switch; on or off. No levels in between.
They for sure both are entertaining to watch. I think they're both equally talented, Lucas is just physically stronger
Many thought Lucas crashed too much and wasn’t ready for a 450 before this year and he proved them wrong. Can’t see why the same couldn’t happen if they try SX.
I’m interested to know if they’re both going to be on 250’s?
I’ll have thoughts after we see some video of them trying to skim SX whoops 😅
Sasha will be on a 250 and Lucas on a 450 confirmed.
Shimoda and Jett aren’t a product of MXGP and Hunter had a limited time there.
Five guys in fifteen years isn’t exactly a flood.
Last 15 years? Reed, Chatfield, Anstie, Swaneopol, Townley, Rattray, Pourcel, Searle, Noren, Musquin, Roczen, Tonus, Ferrandis, Lawrence, Kullas, Farres, Vialle, Prado, Guillod, Paturel, Haarup. That doesn't count the dabblers like Desalle, Strijbos, DeDyker, Teillet, Simpson, Cairoli, Gilbert. I've probably missed some but you get the point.
Guys like Gajser, Fevre, and Herlings have been loyal and have carried the GP's for a while now, but when they retire the next generation all seem to have eyes on the US. I agree with mxaniac that the GPs need to make some changes if they want to retain the top European talent.
Your first sentence isn't wrong. It’s the second that gets you the downvotes. Most of us fans love and look forward to the MXGP guys coming over here and competing. Without even putting any thought into it it’s been way more than 5 guys within the last 15.
Hard challenge for Lucas Coenen to start his american SX career directly in the big boys category !
Really, Lucas on a 450? I dont agree with that. Look I know hes been on a 450 all year but we all know sx is a different animal.
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Both are extremely talented, but they should just focus on getting through the limited rounds they’re doing without crashing.
hope they bring extra ambulances to the stadium when those two race SX... 🤣
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Did people even watch MXGP last and this year? I don't know why people keep calling Lucas a crasher, he made every round last year and went toe to toe with de Wolf until the last moto and this year he was in the fight for the MXGP title until the last round (as an 18 year old rookie btw). He was more consistent than the multi world champs Herlings and Gajser this year and would have won the title if he didn't came in injured, he is insanely impressive.
It's Sacha who is all about either winning or crashing, all out speed and riding over his limits every single moto. I get anxiety from watching him ride and his rear going absolutely everywhere.
Hunter and Ferrandis were also really inconsistent and crashing a lot in their MXGP days and look how that turned out in the end.
Well if you’re including Reed then that’s 23 years and does cover more GP guys who have moved to the US. Reed is debatable anyway as he only stopped in Europe for one year on his way to the US.
But come on - “top European talent” doesn’t make me think of the likes of Guillod, Paturel, Kullas, Haarup. You’re just padding out the numbers.
On average about once every three or so years a GP champion or genuine contender moves to the US and historically they’ve almost all been 250 guys, most likely because to get a full time ride in the US they need to do SX and better to make that transition early. Prado was the first established 450/MXGP rider in over 25 years to move to the US. I’m guessing this more recent trend of lower tier riders moving across is highly influenced by the money to be made from SMX and will likely continue.
Yes it’s true that the traffic is almost exclusively one way but this comes up every single time there’s a rumour that a GP rider wants to move to the US. Suddenly the GP’s are in trouble and will collapse within a few years because all the talent is moving to the US. So far it hasn’t happened the way a lot of people make it out.
Yep, you missed the point. I guess if "so far it hasn't happened" things must be fine and they should keep doing what they're doing. No fans from the US are going to complain.
I suppose if you keep predicting something you’ll be right eventually.
Are we getting them back this year?
Not saying your wrong but JT said both of them on 250's
Remind us how many are on the gate?
I think that was initially what was being said, but it’s almost for sure that Lucas will be on a 450 now.
Why? I’m not commenting on whether the GP’s are better or worse than professional racing in the US.
As I said above - whenever a top name from the GP’s is rumoured to be moving to the US there’s a clamour from a number of US fans that it’s a sign the GP’s are failing. This has been happening for decades.
BTW - I don’t consider that a gate of 40 riders every week in outdoor motocross is a measure of success. The bottom half of that field gets lapped every single weekend and gets nothing in purse money.
I don't pay much attention to MXGP (I only have so much time in the day). Is there more financial opportunity in the SX/MX series, or is it just a matter of wanting to come to America?
Definitely more financial possibilities in the US for guys like Guillod, Paturel, Kullas etc. Unless you're an absolute top guy in the MXGP, you don't make any money there. For guys like Musquin, Kenny, Vialle, Prado or the Coenen brothers for example it's more about the american dream and wanting to race Supercross, those guys didn't have to worry about money in the MXGP.
I'm told the current financial pecking order is:
SX
MXGP
AMA outdoors
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