Prado drama continuing?

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Weak weak answer. Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck...

Weak weak answer. 

Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck than originally thought. 
 

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he...

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he wasnt even in the ball park in the speed department, he blamed everything and everyone but himself.

Lmao just shut up bro. A world champion doesn’t become a 15th place guy overnight. That Kawi is ripe ass

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you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Maybe, but we all sure as hell saw him quit multiple times during the year. I DGAF about ANYTHING else that happened: quitting is unacceptable, period...

Maybe, but we all sure as hell saw him quit multiple times during the year. I DGAF about ANYTHING else that happened: quitting is unacceptable, period. He needs to do what Radical said, then put in an off-season of prep, and kill it next year. Then I might become a fan again, but he's lost me at this point. I'll root for other riders that give it 100% every time the gate drops. 

How many motos motos were dnf's? 

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10/11/2025 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 5:21pm
Weak weak answer. Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck...

Weak weak answer. 

Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck than originally thought. 
 

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he...

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he wasnt even in the ball park in the speed department, he blamed everything and everyone but himself.

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

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__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

Yeah. That's what everyone was saying about him this time a year ago.

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__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

kage173 wrote:

Yeah. That's what everyone was saying about him this time a year ago.

Kawi was horrible. If you think that speed disappeared overnight you’re delusional. He’ll be right back where he belongs on orange 

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Let me help with another example for your perspective. She is smoking Hot. She has tons of money. We get along great. I think she is my future wife. Fast forward...

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

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Let me help with another example for your perspective. She is smoking Hot. She has tons of money. We get along great. I think she is my future wife. Fast forward...

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with...

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

You put a lot of weight on a couple test rides. 

 

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He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he...

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he wasnt even in the ball park in the speed department, he blamed everything and everyone but himself.

100%. He's a quitter 

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__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

kage173 wrote:

Yeah. That's what everyone was saying about him this time a year ago.

__bgreene wrote:

Kawi was horrible. If you think that speed disappeared overnight you’re delusional. He’ll be right back where he belongs on orange 

Yeah, Kawasaki sucks! I guess we need to forget all the championships RV and ET won on a green bike.

And how many times JA put that same bike on the box earlier this year. The problem was Prado. Not the bike.

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Let me help with another example for your perspective. She is smoking Hot. She has tons of money. We get along great. I think she is my future wife. Fast forward...

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with...

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

You put a lot of weight on a couple test rides. 

 

These guys are good enough on a bike to feel the difference one click makes on the suspension.  He knew what he was working with.

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10/11/2025 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 5:53pm

He was pretty decent in sx on the gasgas even won a heat race. I wanna see how he looks on the ktm before I put a fork in him, I think he still has the speed. The whole kawi thing was weird, but then again who has looked good moving over to a kx450 from another brand in recent memory? Tomac looked WAAAAAY better on both the honda and yamaha than the kx. He ended up winning mostly mx championships on the kawi, but he never lived up to his potential. 

The second he moved to yamaha he won everything immediately until he blew his achilles in a freak accident. On the honda he looked like jett lawrence in 2015 (if jett won by a minute and 30 seconds). Anderson won his championship on the husky and was a title threat many years. On the kawi he had that one sx season where he won a lot in the last half of the season, but besides that it was a dud. Then prado came over on the gasgas and rode ABOVE everyones expectations in sx. Then moved to the kawi and blew ass. I guess well see with chase, but ppl who move over to kawi usually dont do well. 

The only ones who make it work are ppl who were always on kawi, rv, ac… or going waaay back to js7 and rc4. Only ac is really even recent enough to matter and he didnt live up to expectations on kawi either, but he had a hand issue. I think the jury is still out, lets see how chase looks. I think we all know at the very best its gonna look like it looked on ktm and honda which has been very hit and miss, but at the worst as we just saw it can go baaaad. Well see.

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10/11/2025 5:57pm

He may have speed but he sure as hell has no character. If I was KTM I would ship his ass back to the MXGPs because he will be booed at every race next year. 

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10/11/2025 6:08pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 6:15pm
__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

kage173 wrote:

Yeah. That's what everyone was saying about him this time a year ago.

__bgreene wrote:

Kawi was horrible. If you think that speed disappeared overnight you’re delusional. He’ll be right back where he belongs on orange 

You are posting in the Tom Vialle thread how you wish Kawasaki could have made it work for him to stay and be Chases teammate , make up your damn mind. This thread you are bitching how bad the Kawai is and the other thread its good enough for Vialle to race but not Prado. 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/tom-vialle-appreciation-post

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Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with...

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

You put a lot of weight on a couple test rides. 

 

These guys are good enough on a bike to feel the difference one click makes on the suspension.  He knew what he was working with.

I agree with you: he knew what he was working with when he joined the team. But what he didn’t know then… and apparently learned… was that the team would be unwilling or unable to make the changes he thought were necessary. Of course, you don’t have to believe that.

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You put a lot of weight on a couple test rides. 

 

These guys are good enough on a bike to feel the difference one click makes on the suspension.  He knew what he was working with.

I agree with you: he knew what he was working with when he joined the team. But what he didn’t know then… and apparently learned… was...

I agree with you: he knew what he was working with when he joined the team. But what he didn’t know then… and apparently learned… was that the team would be unwilling or unable to make the changes he thought were necessary. Of course, you don’t have to believe that.

Yeah we’ve all worked with the new kid who thought he had all the answers and wanted to do everything his way even though we’ve tried that and it doesn’t work. We cave and try it again to find the same result and then he gets all salty because he was wrong, pouts and bad mouths his teammates until he finds another company that will take him…

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These guys are good enough on a bike to feel the difference one click makes on the suspension.  He knew what he was working with.

I agree with you: he knew what he was working with when he joined the team. But what he didn’t know then… and apparently learned… was...

I agree with you: he knew what he was working with when he joined the team. But what he didn’t know then… and apparently learned… was that the team would be unwilling or unable to make the changes he thought were necessary. Of course, you don’t have to believe that.

yak651 wrote:
Yeah we’ve all worked with the new kid who thought he had all the answers and wanted to do everything his way even though we’ve tried...

Yeah we’ve all worked with the new kid who thought he had all the answers and wanted to do everything his way even though we’ve tried that and it doesn’t work. We cave and try it again to find the same result and then he gets all salty because he was wrong, pouts and bad mouths his teammates until he finds another company that will take him…

You are really discounting his 4 world titles. Prado is an accomplished motocross racer with proven bike handling skills. How do you equate that with your “new kid” analogy?

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He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was...

He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was not at all interrested in staying and test to prepare for 2026 on that machine. It was not a great look or ending but whatever.

Some of the vitards were ever gonna be happy until he broke an arm, a leg or his fkn neck! Then its all right because he actually tryed! 

Good luck on the steel frame JP, and good luck to Chase! 🙈

At $100k+ per race, I'd expect 100% effort on the way out.

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He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was...

He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was not at all interrested in staying and test to prepare for 2026 on that machine. It was not a great look or ending but whatever.

Some of the vitards were ever gonna be happy until he broke an arm, a leg or his fkn neck! Then its all right because he actually tryed! 

Good luck on the steel frame JP, and good luck to Chase! 🙈

Radical wrote:

At $100k+ per race, I'd expect 100% effort on the way out.

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

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10/11/2025 9:03pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 9:13pm
That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on...

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

Damon Bradshaw, even though he didn't win the SX championship like he should have and he was blamed 100% and he walked away from a nice contract at that time. Windham jumping ship on his Yamaha contract to ride Honda and no one blamed Yamaha for either one. Some riders are just flakes and Prado is one of them. Heck I would even say Sexton may go down that road. 

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10/11/2025 9:03pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 9:04pm
That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on...

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

Whoa - first this is not an “Euro” thing. This is a Prado thing. 
Second- RC when he left Kawasaki for Honda was not treated well. Abandoning the team that gave him everything from amateur days. So Americans have not been treated by media or fans well at times. 
Not getting what he wanted should have left Prado a 5-10 guy. 
If Sexton doesn’t try to qualify on the Kawi I’ll feel the same about him.
 

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mx691 wrote:
He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was...

He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was not at all interrested in staying and test to prepare for 2026 on that machine. It was not a great look or ending but whatever.

Some of the vitards were ever gonna be happy until he broke an arm, a leg or his fkn neck! Then its all right because he actually tryed! 

Good luck on the steel frame JP, and good luck to Chase! 🙈

Radical wrote:

At $100k+ per race, I'd expect 100% effort on the way out.

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on...

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

Ron Lechien.

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That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on...

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

KurtJ99 wrote:
Whoa - first this is not an “Euro” thing. This is a Prado thing. Second- RC when he left Kawasaki for Honda was not treated well. Abandoning...

Whoa - first this is not an “Euro” thing. This is a Prado thing. 
Second- RC when he left Kawasaki for Honda was not treated well. Abandoning the team that gave him everything from amateur days. So Americans have not been treated by media or fans well at times. 
Not getting what he wanted should have left Prado a 5-10 guy. 
If Sexton doesn’t try to qualify on the Kawi I’ll feel the same about him.
 

I’m not saying it’s a Euro thing; my experience and primary interest is with American mx, that’s why I asked it like that.

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Radical wrote:

At $100k+ per race, I'd expect 100% effort on the way out.

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on...

That expectation goes both ways, though. The star racer that brings enough value to command $100k per race also expects 100% from his team. We on the outside are only left to speculate. 

Let me ask you this: what American mx or sx champion has ever left a team and had the media and the fans blame him instead of the team?

XC706 wrote:

Ron Lechien.

Who did Lechien leave over bike issues?

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10/11/2025 9:49pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 9:50pm

I know Tommy Benoklin riding a kawasaki ruined his career, Heck even Kawasaki and Roy Turner apologized to him for the bike. 😳 But he rode the wheels off it anyway and gave it 100% and didnt blame anyone

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__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

kage173 wrote:

Yeah. That's what everyone was saying about him this time a year ago.

__bgreene wrote:

Kawi was horrible. If you think that speed disappeared overnight you’re delusional. He’ll be right back where he belongs on orange 

And yet, Anderson improved when he went to Kawasaki and has numerous podiums on the new chassis.

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21 pages in and we're still discussing whether he's a quitter or not. Man I love this place

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Let me help with another example for your perspective. She is smoking Hot. She has tons of money. We get along great. I think she is my future wife. Fast forward...

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with...

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

Fact:

He rode the SX bike, not MX.

So you think he thought he was fast enough after that test ride to win in SX?

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Let me help with another example for your perspective. She is smoking Hot. She has tons of money. We get along great. I think she is my future wife. Fast forward...

Let me help with another example for your perspective. 

She is smoking Hot. 
She has tons of money. 
We get along great. 
I think she is my future wife. 
Fast forward a couple months. 
She was banging my neighbor when I went to work. 

Your looking at it from a fan perspective and not as an employment opportunity. 

Nothing personal, MX forum and that’s what posting is about. ✌️✌️

 

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with...

Cool ,another example that doesnt change the fact that he rode the bike ,thought he was fast enough on it to win and couldn't hang with the top guys.

aees wrote:

Fact:

He rode the SX bike, not MX.

So you think he thought he was fast enough after that test ride to win in SX?

All I know is what he said in the gypsy podcast . 

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10/12/2025 4:03am
__bgreene wrote:
Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb...

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

Lol , what are you smoking

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Whoa - first this is not an “Euro” thing. This is a Prado thing. Second- RC when he left Kawasaki for Honda was not treated well. Abandoning...

Whoa - first this is not an “Euro” thing. This is a Prado thing. 
Second- RC when he left Kawasaki for Honda was not treated well. Abandoning the team that gave him everything from amateur days. So Americans have not been treated by media or fans well at times. 
Not getting what he wanted should have left Prado a 5-10 guy. 
If Sexton doesn’t try to qualify on the Kawi I’ll feel the same about him.
 

The RC hate didn't come from him leaving.  They lowered him from the roof at the MGM with a crown on, ala MC.

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