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I don’t usually laugh at my phone but that got me hahahaha😂😂
I am not mad and I am not fat. I am disappointed in how he chose to handle the situation so I am no longer a fan. It’s that simple. Character matters to some people.
I think most people felt the same way you do. But, then he started specifically blaming the team. Not the bike. The team. That's when everyone turned on him.
If you're going to throw hard working behind-the-scenes people under the bus then you damn sure better be right.
And from his two bike length holeshots, to leading motos, it's hard to believe that it was all the team' fault.
And, if Chase comes out and podiums at A1. Then we know it wasn't the team.
Do you think it’s possible he had been asking for the same things since he first rode it, and they continually failed to provide it?
I think they thought they’d get there with putting a spicier map in, and when that wasn’t enough months had already passed and by the time they started making some real effort tensions and patience were already gone on both ends.
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I would do that if I were them for sure.
I doubt Eli is doing the Baker thing.
No we still wouldn’t. It might suit Chase as is, and not be what Prado wants or needs. That’s the same mindset that kawi has had in the past giving Weimer the rv set up and saying he can win , it’s good enough we aren’t changing it…
Different riders different needs.
Imagine being so upset at someone of whom you have probably (most likely) never spoken to that you can never forgive them for something that is completely irrelevant to you? But please, go on and do your one fast lap at the local track and pull off to adjust your clickers like normal. Geez some of you guys must have caught Jorge sleeping with your Mrs. or something. None of us know what happened behind the scenes, but I think its safe to say that a dude willing to cut himself out of a 4+ million dollar deal to go ride for free must mean something wasn't right. Maybe it was just Prado, maybe it was Kawi. Probably was a bit of both. But he did show up each weekend and finished every moto if I remember correctly. Even when he purposely tried to not qualify he still went 11-12 on the day.
What in the world? I’m not upset, mad, fat and Prado hasn’t slept with my wife (I don’t think….). Simply not a fan anymore. Plenty of other fast guys that are easier to root for. Why do some find that upsetting and hard to understand? Be a Prado fan, I don’t care nor do I make judgments about you.
He lost a lot of fans and more importantly, industry people because of this and other choices he has made in last year. There's a reason why Red Bull really wants nothing to do with him after all the years they have invested in him prior.
"He purposely tried to not qualify" - Character is revealed when you are up against it.
Yeah I don’t understand the whole thing about someone being a great rider or they can throw a football or shoot a basketball well that they’re this infallible being.
I could afford to shed a few pounds though so maybe I should just shut my fucking mouth.
Imagine being so upset at a post a random moto fan made about someone you probably(most likely) have never spoken to that you feel the need to make some dramatic post about someone else being upset.
That would be funny. Eli would run everybody to the ground, take a flight back home to Colorado, install a mile of fence, MTB 10k feet of climbing and show up the next morning refreshed before anyone else crawled in.
I can almost guarantee he has the option to come and go as he pleases.
Like I said earlier: For his sake, he needs to make things right with Kawasaki and Monster, issue a respectful, public apology, owning his bad decisions, then move on and ride the way he knows to ride.
Fans will forgive him (maybe not all at first), industry will respect him again (may take some time), and sponsors will return (after he shows some consistent effort).
How the rest of his career goes, and the opportunities presented to him, depend on how he deals with the situation he's in today.
What's done is done. He has an opportunity right now to put things on a positive path.
What if it is the team? What if it’s a bad fit and both are to blame? Idk man. I’ve learned not to come to conclusions with 10% or less of the information.
Realistically, every single person in this thread is wrong. I just wanna see what’s next and how ktm photos lol.
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I’m a fan of Prado but I really don’t know how anyone can defend his actions this past summer. The guy intentionally tried to not qualify for a race, in many of the races he did qualify for he simply gave up and just a had a shitty attitude the entire time. He bad mouthed his team saying he could win if they gave him a better bike when by all accounts the team was working their asses off to make him happy. Riders complaining about not being comfortable on their bike is nothing new, but purposely not trying to qualify should be unacceptable and it really just shows his true character, in my opinion.
Not meeting expectations results wise is one thing but he clearly wasn’t putting in the effort that was expected of him either.
I would not expect him to podium his first race. The Lawrence Bro's cover at least two of those spots. You've got Eli/Jason/Kenny/Chase/Malcom/Plessinger competing for one those remaining spots. Eli will be on the KTM and have a steeper development curve IMO compared to Jason on the Suzuki. Chase 4-6 more likely I think.
If Chase didn't podium by round 4 I'd be concerned but not freaked out. I'd certainly love to see a renewed Chase really challenge the Bro's but I don't think it's practical at round 1. Especially if he doesn't go to all the off-season races to measure himself and the bike up against the competition.
Fair enough. But, I think that was my point about Chase. If he comes out and is in the mix, then we know the team is capable and wasn't the problem.
I never said anything about being fat…but you seem to post in every Prado thread running the kid down. Did he do the right thing? No probably not. Do we know much about the situation. No not really. What happens if chase comes out and says the exact same thing about the kawi?
What if Prado comes out and is in the mix as well? What does that say about the team? What does that say about Prado?
Pretty certain there are plenty of people on these threads that would swap their stress and worries for Prados. He's not worried about putting a kid through college, health insurance for his kids, a mortgage, student loans, his parents getting alzheimers, no he is fine no matter what. Some people on this sight I would bet are hoping to get caught up on rent so they're family doesn't get evicted, their cancer diagnosis is incorrect or they or loved ones have money for insulin next month. Prado doesn't know real pressure, he is spoiled.
Running the guy down? No, just expressing my opinion on HIS actions. Thats what the forum is for. Maybe you should stop worrying about me.
Dude that’s honestly the most retarded thing I’ve ever read. How tone deaf. First you don’t know anything about his personal life whatsoever.
Second, you probably don’t understand what it’s like to pour every ounce of your soul into a tiny hourglass, flip it over when you go pro, and to be up against a ticking clock every second of every day to perform and carve out your legacy with everything on the line.
From his perspective I can easily see how he can be in a literal panic mindset as his value tanks and he loses a precious 10-15% of his effective career window.
people like you who always have to go into the “struggle Olympics” whenever hard times come up are sad. You have your problems - deal with him. This man has his own - he’ll deal with them. Go outside and talk to someone besides yourself.
It's a fair question. I don't have a good answer.
I think it's unlikely. I think he'll struggle again in SX. Maybe one or two good showings. I just don't think it's a bike/team thing. Learning SX on a 450 with factory level expectations is an impossible task for anyone. Even most 250SX champions end up hurt their rookie 450 year.
Jorge did unbelievably well when he came over on the GasGas, and I think it did him a disservice. He underappreciated the difficulty. And, I think SX rattled him, which led to the bad results outdoors that then snow balled.
Keep in mind he barely got any testing or riding in during the offseason last year.
I know I'm in the very small minority here but I kind of respect him for this. Not the way he handled himself, that's been embarrassing, but simply the fact that he is willing to bet so hard on himself. He's putting all his chips on #70. He really truly believes he can compete with Jett, at least outdoors. It would've been much easier to just play it safe, collect checks and do what everyone else does which is not say anything about how much they dislike the bike until they get on another team and then suddenly we hear about all the struggles they used to have.
I'll be the first to say I think he'll prove some people wrong next year. May not win but I think he'll be fighting for podiums.
That was a good answer!
I don’t know either, my hope is that he will do well, and chase will do well, and it will be one of those things that just didn’t work out for the parties involved.
I think a lot of people forget that it was reported that Prado had multiple crashes on the bike before SX, and the last one right before the season started was pretty bad. Then in SX he gets injured pretty early, had to have surgery, it’s not that hard for me to believe he lost faith/trust in the bike. Whatever happened after that it was obvious that the team and Prado could not find common ground.
I’m sure many in here have had jobs, relationships, ect that have soured. I’m also sure the effort and energy put in after those relationships soured did not match the effort put in during the honeymoon phase.
If your employer could not provide the tools for you to effectively perform your job duties to the best level possible how would you feel? What is your mindset?
Do you think any champions doubt their abilities?
Jorge Prado is a “brand” just like Monster or Kawasaki. If Prado goes out, and gets injured pushing on a bike he’s not comfortable on, that could be the end of his brand. He has plenty of skin in the game. Time will tell if his brand will recover from all of this. Honestly, It seems like people believe he should have just went out there and killed himself over and over again.
What surprises me the most is the conviction that some people have here stating their opinions about the situation as fact and speak like they were there…
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