What the hell was the Netherlands manager saying about not having Herlings?

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Looked like he was fumbling his words big time!!

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10/3/2025 12:17pm

Really no excuse for not asking Jeffery to be on that team...

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they still have a solid team, but leaving Herlings off was a massive hit to the potential.  i mean, the dude WAXED our best guys his first time ever racing Ironman. back when tracks had jumps and chicks didn't have kickstands.

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10/3/2025 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2025 1:53pm

Very good to see you. You have a strong team for Team Netherlands, one that can at least challenge for a podium. I guess a lot of people want to know why Jeffrey wasn’t included. Can you talk about that, or would you prefer not to?

Regarding your question: selecting a team is more complicated than just picking a few riders — it’s not a computer game. Everything has to be considered and has to fit together: things like internal association agreements, rider condition, rider availability, and of course the overall budget.

That being said, this is all I’d like to share about that topic. Now our focus is on the weekend. With this team, I’m really happy. Our interest is always for Team Netherlands to achieve our goals, and we want to fight for the podium — which is absolutely possible with these three riders.

Of course, we all know Jeffrey is a unique rider in his own right. But we are in the fortunate position, as a strong Dutch federation, to have more riders who can step up. It’s not only about one rider for Team Netherlands. In the past few years, we’ve had four riders who are capable of reaching our goals.

So yes, I’m very happy with this team. I’m happy with Kay, I’m happy with Glenn, and I’m happy with Calvin. As I said, we will fight for the podium with this team.

 

its all bs, that coach should stfu and admit allot depends on herlings to take first place podium because thats the goal right?.. who wants to be 2nd or 3th every big hitter mx country wants to win nobody cares for 2nd or 3th... this guy makes my blood boil

 

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10/3/2025 2:21pm

That bit was a little wild, also from Malin 😅 Im not sure if anyone noticed. Malin’s very first question to Team Netherlands was about Herlings. And then the team manager started off by showing the mascot he carries with him, explaining that it’s a well-known mascot used as a symbol for all children facing cancer. And Malin’s response to that was: “Is that a deflection?” 

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matze wrote:
That bit was a little wild, also from Malin 😅 Im not sure if anyone noticed. Malin’s very first question to Team Netherlands was about Herlings...

That bit was a little wild, also from Malin 😅 Im not sure if anyone noticed. Malin’s very first question to Team Netherlands was about Herlings. And then the team manager started off by showing the mascot he carries with him, explaining that it’s a well-known mascot used as a symbol for all children facing cancer. And Malin’s response to that was: “Is that a deflection?” 

That’s sick but also the first thing that came up, a terrible terrible sickness to start with oh yeah there is also a thing about Herlings still 🙈

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Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:

- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a year apart from MXGP races his entire career

- KTM is not willing to pay

- He wants to test the Honda already


The Dutch Federation always did everything to keep him happy. Ask Marc de Reuver about it.

I think that they’re taking the critics for him not attending, but it’s one of these three reasons. Just say it like Vialle. It would be a lot less trouble / shit talk for everyone

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10/3/2025 5:51pm
Cortami79 wrote:
Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a...

Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:

- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a year apart from MXGP races his entire career

- KTM is not willing to pay

- He wants to test the Honda already


The Dutch Federation always did everything to keep him happy. Ask Marc de Reuver about it.

I think that they’re taking the critics for him not attending, but it’s one of these three reasons. Just say it like Vialle. It would be a lot less trouble / shit talk for everyone

According to Lewis, he just didn't get picked. 

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Cortami79 wrote:
Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a...

Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:

- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a year apart from MXGP races his entire career

- KTM is not willing to pay

- He wants to test the Honda already


The Dutch Federation always did everything to keep him happy. Ask Marc de Reuver about it.

I think that they’re taking the critics for him not attending, but it’s one of these three reasons. Just say it like Vialle. It would be a lot less trouble / shit talk for everyone

However it doesn’t make sense then that he was announced as official reserve rider, and even mentioning in an interview that he understood the made selections and he was happy to step up in case something happened to the other guys.

I guess we will hear some more inside about the story after this weekend.

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10/4/2025 4:17am

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

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10/4/2025 4:23am
The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

Ok. But still finished above the guy that was picked and rode 5 rds less than him in 2025.. So regardless of your shit opinion, him not being there is still dumb. 

And also, Cooper Webb has more sx titles than James. Was James overrated too? 

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The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

it's a good  being stupid doesn't hurt.....otherwise you'd be in a lot of pain

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10/4/2025 4:38am
The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

        Mr. Creature, you have obviously ingested some form of mind altering substance. Mr. Herlings is without a doubt in consideration for top 5 best riders of all time in the motocross subdivision.  Many folks consider him to be a strong top 3 consideration.  You, my friend should sit down and reconsider your whole life if you think Jeffery Herlings is overrated. Enjoy your day Sir ! 

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The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

You need to put the pipe down as you clearly haven’t been watching the MXGP races to make such a stupid statement!! The guy would have been battling for wins period!!

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10/4/2025 6:10am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2025 6:11am

In his prime he wins the ama mx title stopping for a drink each moto.

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The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

Do you watch the races?  Previous ironman when he showed up ring a bell?

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10/4/2025 7:51am
The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

Flatliner wrote:

Do you watch the races?  Previous ironman when he showed up ring a bell?

This creature lives under a rock someplace and has no idea......

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10/4/2025 2:02pm
Cortami79 wrote:
Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a...

Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:

- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a year apart from MXGP races his entire career

- KTM is not willing to pay

- He wants to test the Honda already


The Dutch Federation always did everything to keep him happy. Ask Marc de Reuver about it.

I think that they’re taking the critics for him not attending, but it’s one of these three reasons. Just say it like Vialle. It would be a lot less trouble / shit talk for everyone

mx617 wrote:

According to Lewis, he just didn't get picked. 

Lies

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The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than...

The guy went 5-5 on his side of the pond last year. He’s the most overrated rider in MX history. He’s got less major championships than Cooper Webb and is now tied with Febvre. Wasn’t even the best rider on his own team the year they won MXoN 

Flatliner wrote:

Do you watch the races?  Previous ironman when he showed up ring a bell?

Boomslang wrote:

This creature lives under a rock someplace and has no idea......

Have you been watching MXGP? Herlings was the right pick this year. I don't think he'd beat Jett by any means, but he could've gotten between AUS and USA for sure. 

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10/4/2025 2:44pm

In his prime, when healthy, you have a atrong argument Herlings is the fastest motocross rider ever. Ever. Not smooth deceptive speed like Jett. Brutal, insane, manhandling a 450 like a pit bike, warp SPEED. I dont think you can ever categorize him as overrated, based on that alone. Arent him and Kenny still the two youngest GP winners ever? Crazy how both their careers got devastated by injuries 

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10/4/2025 3:00pm Edited Date/Time 10/4/2025 3:01pm
In his prime, when healthy, you have a atrong argument Herlings is the fastest motocross rider ever. Ever. Not smooth deceptive speed like Jett. Brutal, insane...

In his prime, when healthy, you have a atrong argument Herlings is the fastest motocross rider ever. Ever. Not smooth deceptive speed like Jett. Brutal, insane, manhandling a 450 like a pit bike, warp SPEED. I dont think you can ever categorize him as overrated, based on that alone. Arent him and Kenny still the two youngest GP winners ever? Crazy how both their careers got devastated by injuries 

I've seen Herlings live in 2018 and I'd put him in the category with 2015 Tomac/2016 Kenny. The difference between them and Herlings though was that Herlings was willing to die out there to win races, he literally rode over his limit every single  race which sadly cost him a lot of titles. But that dude also has glass bones for sure, everytime he tips over he somehow breaks his collarbone lol.

 That he came back from every single injury and raced himself back to winning speed only shows the amount of skill and talent that guy has. 

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10/5/2025 3:18am

Every year people pick him to be mxgp champ and they’ve only been right twice, in 2021 needing a couple miracles late to make it happen. He’s sand bagged for a good portion of his career so that boosts his race wins numbers. He’s got less major championships than anyone else who we’d put in the all time category, including JS7 who has 3(Ik counting is hard) with a perfect season in one. Therefore he is overrated, repeatedly has come up short on people’s expectations. Getting hurt is a big part of this sport it turns out. The 15-20 guys on my list ahead of him all found ways to go that speed without missing races because of it. He didn’t have the balls to come to the usa for more than one fluke of a race(Eli wasn’t trying, Marv fell last lap) unlike others who beat him over there, then came here. Ken, marv, Dylan, prado

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Every year people pick him to be mxgp champ and they’ve only been right twice, in 2021 needing a couple miracles late to make it happen...

Every year people pick him to be mxgp champ and they’ve only been right twice, in 2021 needing a couple miracles late to make it happen. He’s sand bagged for a good portion of his career so that boosts his race wins numbers. He’s got less major championships than anyone else who we’d put in the all time category, including JS7 who has 3(Ik counting is hard) with a perfect season in one. Therefore he is overrated, repeatedly has come up short on people’s expectations. Getting hurt is a big part of this sport it turns out. The 15-20 guys on my list ahead of him all found ways to go that speed without missing races because of it. He didn’t have the balls to come to the usa for more than one fluke of a race(Eli wasn’t trying, Marv fell last lap) unlike others who beat him over there, then came here. Ken, marv, Dylan, prado

Nobody ever said he's the most consistent or best MXGP racer ever, just one if not the all out fastest in his peak (until Jett). That's all. I don't know how this makes him overrated? 

Are his stats padded with MX2 wins? I mean yeah kinda, I don't know why they only ever show combined wins in the MXGP. Herlings and Gajser for example are almost tied in premier class wins but Gajser has two more titles. Cairoli has 20 more premier wins than both of them and we don't need to start with titles. 

But again, nobody ever called him the greatest, he is just fast as fuck and comes back from every injury to winning and dominating motos. If you can't admire that, then that's on you, but no need to hate. 

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10/5/2025 3:57am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2025 4:53am

Herlings has had a fantastic career even with all the injuries. Multiple World Champ and he is still earning a great salary. 

I doubt he is fazed that he was not selected this year. I'm also absolutely sure he would have proudly stepped up to represent his country hD he been asked.

Stop bagging in the riders in the team, their management and their Federation. These guys are good enough to podium...or even better.

Put your energy behind the team. Glen hurt his tailbone and I'm sure he will suck it up for a podium today.

 

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10/5/2025 5:26am

Don’t pay creature no mind, he’ll say this about Helings but also claim Deegs is generational 

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10/5/2025 6:17am
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Herlings has had a fantastic career even with all the injuries. Multiple World Champ and he is still earning a great salary. I doubt he is fazed...

Herlings has had a fantastic career even with all the injuries. Multiple World Champ and he is still earning a great salary. 

I doubt he is fazed that he was not selected this year. I'm also absolutely sure he would have proudly stepped up to represent his country hD he been asked.

Stop bagging in the riders in the team, their management and their Federation. These guys are good enough to podium...or even better.

Put your energy behind the team. Glen hurt his tailbone and I'm sure he will suck it up for a podium today.

 

I'll be shocked if he's able to rode today. I dont know if it was accurate but I saw it reported he had broken ribs. He also had his arm in a sling like he had a broken collarbone 

10/5/2025 6:22am
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Don’t pay creature no mind, he’ll say this about Helings but also claim Deegs is generational 

His definition of a major championship is different than mine also. Any National championship, 250 or 450, is a major championship. Same with World titles. Matter of opinion, I suppose. His boy Deegan has no major championships yet by his definition 

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Every year people pick him to be mxgp champ and they’ve only been right twice, in 2021 needing a couple miracles late to make it happen...

Every year people pick him to be mxgp champ and they’ve only been right twice, in 2021 needing a couple miracles late to make it happen. He’s sand bagged for a good portion of his career so that boosts his race wins numbers. He’s got less major championships than anyone else who we’d put in the all time category, including JS7 who has 3(Ik counting is hard) with a perfect season in one. Therefore he is overrated, repeatedly has come up short on people’s expectations. Getting hurt is a big part of this sport it turns out. The 15-20 guys on my list ahead of him all found ways to go that speed without missing races because of it. He didn’t have the balls to come to the usa for more than one fluke of a race(Eli wasn’t trying, Marv fell last lap) unlike others who beat him over there, then came here. Ken, marv, Dylan, prado

I'm quite sure he's the all time gp win leader.  You can say he left a few titles on the table and I'd agree,  but that's where it stops.

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10/6/2025 3:25am
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Don’t pay creature no mind, he’ll say this about Helings but also claim Deegs is generational 

Well if we’re comparing 250 careers it’s not even close. 38 dominated 2 mx titles in his first 3 years. Now he’s moving up. Took Herlings until year 3 to get his first and he had so much fun doing it he decided to stay for 4 more years 

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10/6/2025 4:28am
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Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a...

Everyone knows that it is either one of these things:

- Herlings does not want to race (which would be weird because he races 20+ races a year apart from MXGP races his entire career

- KTM is not willing to pay

- He wants to test the Honda already


The Dutch Federation always did everything to keep him happy. Ask Marc de Reuver about it.

I think that they’re taking the critics for him not attending, but it’s one of these three reasons. Just say it like Vialle. It would be a lot less trouble / shit talk for everyone

He was officially picked as reserve rider. Which does not make sense in all three of your scenarios. 

The ''coach' also doesnt help things by not saying anything. 

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