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And it's that simple, you have a contract, if you breach that contract there will be penalties.
Same as anything else in life, you think of Kawi said, hey Prado I know you have another 2 years on your contract but yeah, sorry this is the end.
You think Prado wouldn't be going for compensation?
Or, is there a chance Kawi and Prado cant come to an agreement and he has to ride Kawi again? Would look especially bad when he flounders and Chase kills it on the same bike
Or Sexton cant break the top 5 and says the bike isn't safe, that would make it worser
I mean, Chase already kind of alluded to his past two bikes not being safe so I don’t think it’d be that surprising. Seems every bike isn’t safe these days when you’re trying to keep up with Jett.
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Its not like Chase isnt comfortable on an aluminum frame and we saw Anderson look good on it to start '25 sx. So I doubt that scenario
I had to look up “amortised”, never heard of it. Word of the day.
So the “willing to ride for free” is sounding a lot less honorable now. If they want to get their money back from him to be released it’s either pay or stop bitching.
So if Prado doesn't pay up to Kawasaki and Monster to leave his contract, he either doesn't ride at all, or has to ride the Kawasaki anyway? I would assume if he was healthy he would have to ride the Kawasaki, and why would Kawasaki want that? None of this makes sense.
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You really can’t make this stuff up. Weird situation somehow gets more weird. I was really excited about Prado joining the SMX series. I still can’t believe it has turned out this way and he seems like he is either really full of himself or really stupid (maybe both) if he thinks that he deserves anything from any team at this point. Asking Red Bull to buy him out of his current contract when that is the team he left a year ago and has done nothing but tear down his personal integrity since then. What a weird guy.
If there were early out penalties he (his mgmt) would have been aware before heading down this path. I lean towards it being something much more nuanced that the Kawi and Monster lawyers think they can make stick. Sure seems like they are unhappy and are now willing to make Jorge’s situation very difficult.
It's a game of chicken to see who is gonna blink first.
Maybe Kawi ends up going the lawsuit rote with preliminary injunction so Prado can’t ride/sign elsewhere.
I'm now wondering how long this can go on? If Prado refuses to pay to exit, does he sit out next year or resume racing? I can't see Kawi wanting him on their bikes again. How long can the stalemate continue?
Anderson has already put this platform on the podium indoors and out. Chase has no excuses
Do you have unfair restraint of trade laws in the US? I’d imagine it would be hard to enforce a limitation on Prado’s ability to go elsewhere when you have no interest in him riding for you anyway.
There’s many ways a contract can be written. If there are explicit penalties for early termination or release by other party these would/should be known about and there wouldn’t be much debate.
Of course either side could challenge or dispute what’s written in the contract.
From the tiny bit of info on this thread though it sounds like Monster and Kawi are seeking some sort of compensation outside of what’s specified in the contract.
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HChase will win on that bike just like he has done on a red one and an orange one. I’d say that Tomac struggles more with the adjustment than Chase. Do you think Prado will beat Jett, Chase, Eli, and Hunter on a KTM outdoors? I don’t.
Kawi also doesn’t want Prado to go to ktm and do well id imagine. And Prado will inevitably do better at ktm if not for the pure fact that he looks like a complete idiot if he doesn’t do better there. So I don’t blame kawi if they are trying to make the situation as ideal as possible for themselves for many reasons at this point. Having Prado putt around in 20th if Chase is crushing it looks better than him going to ktm and beating Chase.
Bingo IMO... this is exactly what I was thinking. Monster and KAW are pissed.
When you do a lot of business deals.. things don't always go well. They know this going in. And when they don't go well if the parties are reasonable and like each other they understand things don't always go well. They sit back... come to some sort of rational agreement and shake hands ( you never know how the future may go) and move on.
This is NOT what seems to be happening. From JT's video seems Monster was the first to say "hey - we spent a lot of money - adds... print media etc... if you want to bail and bad mouth the monster/kaw deal we want to be compensated for the $ out lay - and you not living up to you end of the deal". I suspect Kaw saw that and said "you know what... monster is right. This is NOT cool. You rode the bike... signed the contract... and then blamed the bike. We worked to make changes you wanted. But at every turn you blamed the bike. You were public about it which hurts our brand. We're not happy. You want to leave ... give us XYZ $".
I think that's were this is... I could be wrong.
I heard he was riding for bonus money only. No salary. So at the moment all KTM need to provide is a factory bike & parts. I thought it would have been simple to build a factory engine & suspension & ship them to tedder. Im sure if tedder was getting prado free they would pay a mechanic. I thought KTMs business model was to sell KTMs. In Europe lots of satellite teams get factory support. Look at husky & gas gas as an example. Is the conflicting sponsors due to oils in the engine etc
The answers never simple when it should be. Im guessing its more to do with the amount of money redbull give factory KTM. They would not like it if KTM gives him a factory bike & prado & monster beats them. But then there happy for factory huskeys with rockstar. 🤷🏼♂️
Red Bull KTM would rather not have Prado then to have Prado on a black Monster KTM with a PC exhaust and Enzo KYB WP? forks id imagine, and I’d think RedBull probably has a lot of say in what KTM does. I remember (I believe it was DeCoster) pushed for Barcia back around 2017ish and RedBull told KTM no and didn’t let it happen, and this was a few years before his RedBull/TLD/GASGAS deal. Plus Prado left RedBull to go to enemy territory with Monster, I’m sure RedBull is dying to buy him out of a contract.
It it might be a case of redbull saying ‘you made your bed, go lie in’ or figure it out yourself.
If it gets to hard to get out of does Prado stay Kawi & make the best effort? Surly there comes a point where its not worth loosing a fortune over?
I understand Kawasaki's frustration, and feeling like Prado owes them compensation, but what if Prado calls their bluff? Does Kawi really want to deal with him for another 2 years? They must be confident that Prado REALLY wants out of the contract.
Sometimes I wonder about JT. He’s a decent guy on the broadcast but I don’t really buy him as a journalist. He mentioned Monster wanting to “clawback” promotional monies spent FROM Prado, but those dollars didn’t go to Prado, they went to whatever promotional material companies, ad agencies, billboard companies or whatever they did to promote the guy. Now, if Monster wants Prado to reimburse them for those dollars, that’s different, but it’s not a clawback. And if that type of recoupment is in Prado’s contract (and I would be surprised if it was), then he might have to pay up (if he leaves).
It takes a lot of money to get a contract, promotional shoots advertising together not to mention they will need to do all this again for their next rider. Someone needs to pay for that. Kawasaki and Monster do not want to be the ones doing it again on their dime because Prado wants out 2 years early.
Well, at some point Monster and Kawi has to cut their losses. Or do they want to pay him a total of millions the coming 2 years while he is out surfing and laying at the beach during the weekends?
I had to look up “worser”, never heard of it. Word of the day.
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