Matty B’s post cancellation Charlotte track walk

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Regardless of how and why the decision was made, I believe it was the right call, if only for the safety of the riders.  That track was...

Regardless of how and why the decision was made, I believe it was the right call, if only for the safety of the riders. 

 

That track was fucked.

To be fair I think the track was fucked before the storm 😂

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Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

So they should:

- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders and families, teams, TV crew, AMA-staff.

- Insurance and stadium rent should always be for a day extra

- No one flying can plan for going early, so have to fly out late sunday evening (for all 30 races) even if it's not cancelled, and if you want to be guaranteed to come home. Incl people who bought tickets.

- Catering and food, supply deliveries (incl breakfast, lunches) needs to be ordered for two full race days. You ain't ordering that 7 a clock in the evening before.

This should be done for 30 races a year. For what, one cancelled moto every fourth year in average?

And external lights that some bring up to race at the evening?! WTF? What rider do you see would liked to have raced that track, with lights, when they didnt even want to race it with the rain fucking it up during day time?

The perspective on what is realistic some have is unbelievable 🙄

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Holy shit broc your in aliso let’s meet up im on the ass end of Laguna Niguel. 

brocster wrote:

I’m at Pala just about every Friday, meet me there. 

So you don’t live aliso? Or only feel comfortable meeting at an mx track 

I don't typically search and unhide half a dozen comments just so I can downvote them but for a complete asshat like yourself I made an exception. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

aees wrote:
So they should:- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders...

So they should:

- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders and families, teams, TV crew, AMA-staff.

- Insurance and stadium rent should always be for a day extra

- No one flying can plan for going early, so have to fly out late sunday evening (for all 30 races) even if it's not cancelled, and if you want to be guaranteed to come home. Incl people who bought tickets.

- Catering and food, supply deliveries (incl breakfast, lunches) needs to be ordered for two full race days. You ain't ordering that 7 a clock in the evening before.

This should be done for 30 races a year. For what, one cancelled moto every fourth year in average?

And external lights that some bring up to race at the evening?! WTF? What rider do you see would liked to have raced that track, with lights, when they didnt even want to race it with the rain fucking it up during day time?

The perspective on what is realistic some have is unbelievable 🙄

None of the above.

Just a solid contingency plan to run late if needed.

Pretty simple really.

 

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Spoonguy wrote:
Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

Hold these SMX "hybrid" races at roofed facilities, with an outdoor loop outside of the stadium, that can be cut-off if weather should turn shitty? Seems like a simple solution to me, but, what do I know? I'm not a successful monster truck circus promoting corporation.

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9/8/2025 7:41am Edited Date/Time 9/8/2025 7:42am
Spoonguy wrote:
Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

aees wrote:
So they should:- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders...

So they should:

- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders and families, teams, TV crew, AMA-staff.

- Insurance and stadium rent should always be for a day extra

- No one flying can plan for going early, so have to fly out late sunday evening (for all 30 races) even if it's not cancelled, and if you want to be guaranteed to come home. Incl people who bought tickets.

- Catering and food, supply deliveries (incl breakfast, lunches) needs to be ordered for two full race days. You ain't ordering that 7 a clock in the evening before.

This should be done for 30 races a year. For what, one cancelled moto every fourth year in average?

And external lights that some bring up to race at the evening?! WTF? What rider do you see would liked to have raced that track, with lights, when they didnt even want to race it with the rain fucking it up during day time?

The perspective on what is realistic some have is unbelievable 🙄

None of the above.

Just a solid contingency plan to run late if needed.

Pretty simple really.

 

No it's not simple. 

They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?

You actually think the riders would have raced that track with lights, when they didn't even want to race it during daylight?

There is a reason there isn't any more night races at places that don't have permanent lights installed.

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lol at the entire thing. Our PREMIER SUPER DUPER AMAZING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND 1 is cut in half, our officials just sorta shrug their shoulders, and we just move on. I mean....only in the mx universe is this acceptable. 

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lol at the entire thing. Our PREMIER SUPER DUPER AMAZING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND 1 is cut in half, our officials just sorta shrug their shoulders, and...

lol at the entire thing. Our PREMIER SUPER DUPER AMAZING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND 1 is cut in half, our officials just sorta shrug their shoulders, and we just move on. I mean....only in the mx universe is this acceptable. 

Is that your limited view on the sports world causing you to say only in MX? Because F1 has cancelled complete rounds due to weather.

Fucking hate when people that has no clue how complicated it is to organise large scale events think there was some highly intelligent way they could have salvaged the round and everybody would have been happy.

Stick the series in an indoor environment and everyone will complain it's just another SX track without whoops. Do it on an outdoor track and we'll, we already seen this year what could happend.

Asking riders to go out and race with lights on a track so rutted because of earlier rain, that they didn't even want to race it in day light, feels very feasible.

Shit happens. Would love to hear your detailed plan for pulling it off without raising ticket prices substantially or compromising on track build.

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Imagine wanting to meet up with someone to fight because you only got to watch one hour of dirt bikes on Saturday instead of two, lol

Top tier lmao

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I won’t go back next year if they have it there. It’s still summer and thunderstorms are a normal thing around here. The chance of it happening again isn’t that small. I had no idea the lights at the drag strip wasn’t enough for them. 

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Juice780 wrote:
I won’t go back next year if they have it there. It’s still summer and thunderstorms are a normal thing around here. The chance of it...

I won’t go back next year if they have it there. It’s still summer and thunderstorms are a normal thing around here. The chance of it happening again isn’t that small. I had no idea the lights at the drag strip wasn’t enough for them. 

Apparently the chance is 1 in 200...

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aees wrote:
So they should:- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders...

So they should:

- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders and families, teams, TV crew, AMA-staff.

- Insurance and stadium rent should always be for a day extra

- No one flying can plan for going early, so have to fly out late sunday evening (for all 30 races) even if it's not cancelled, and if you want to be guaranteed to come home. Incl people who bought tickets.

- Catering and food, supply deliveries (incl breakfast, lunches) needs to be ordered for two full race days. You ain't ordering that 7 a clock in the evening before.

This should be done for 30 races a year. For what, one cancelled moto every fourth year in average?

And external lights that some bring up to race at the evening?! WTF? What rider do you see would liked to have raced that track, with lights, when they didnt even want to race it with the rain fucking it up during day time?

The perspective on what is realistic some have is unbelievable 🙄

None of the above.

Just a solid contingency plan to run late if needed.

Pretty simple really.

 

aees wrote:
No it's not simple. They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?You...

No it's not simple. 

They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?

You actually think the riders would have raced that track with lights, when they didn't even want to race it during daylight?

There is a reason there isn't any more night races at places that don't have permanent lights installed.

Nobody held a gun to Feld executive's heads and made them plan a race there. Ultimately the choice of venue is what failed.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

aees wrote:
So they should:- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders...

So they should:

- keep a few hundred people on payroll and standby for a "maybe". Incl track builders, dirt haulers, stadium staff, medics, Feld crew, riders and families, teams, TV crew, AMA-staff.

- Insurance and stadium rent should always be for a day extra

- No one flying can plan for going early, so have to fly out late sunday evening (for all 30 races) even if it's not cancelled, and if you want to be guaranteed to come home. Incl people who bought tickets.

- Catering and food, supply deliveries (incl breakfast, lunches) needs to be ordered for two full race days. You ain't ordering that 7 a clock in the evening before.

This should be done for 30 races a year. For what, one cancelled moto every fourth year in average?

And external lights that some bring up to race at the evening?! WTF? What rider do you see would liked to have raced that track, with lights, when they didnt even want to race it with the rain fucking it up during day time?

The perspective on what is realistic some have is unbelievable 🙄

And there are still more moving parts to be accounted for to make this reality. Our “fans” are soft. 

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Imagine wanting to meet up with someone to fight because you only got to watch one hour of dirt bikes on Saturday instead of two, lol

Top tier lmao

So are they meeting to fuck or fight? 

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Since there are so many with an opposing view on how this was handled. How about you save your allowance mow some lawns sell your mom’s medications. Series is obviously profitable and you know how to run it better so why not give it a go and maybe move out of mom’s basement? 

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None of the above.

Just a solid contingency plan to run late if needed.

Pretty simple really.

 

aees wrote:
No it's not simple. They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?You...

No it's not simple. 

They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?

You actually think the riders would have raced that track with lights, when they didn't even want to race it during daylight?

There is a reason there isn't any more night races at places that don't have permanent lights installed.

Spoonguy wrote:

Nobody held a gun to Feld executive's heads and made them plan a race there. Ultimately the choice of venue is what failed.

Regarding choice of venue, there's lots of factors at play. Feld guys were on Pulp a few weeks back and mentioned for SMX they want to have one round east, one central, and one west coast.  Also with NFL, College Football and MLB all currently in season, it makes domed facilities near impossible to reserve.

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aees wrote:
No it's not simple. They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?You...

No it's not simple. 

They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?

You actually think the riders would have raced that track with lights, when they didn't even want to race it during daylight?

There is a reason there isn't any more night races at places that don't have permanent lights installed.

Spoonguy wrote:

Nobody held a gun to Feld executive's heads and made them plan a race there. Ultimately the choice of venue is what failed.

Regarding choice of venue, there's lots of factors at play. Feld guys were on Pulp a few weeks back and mentioned for SMX they want to...

Regarding choice of venue, there's lots of factors at play. Feld guys were on Pulp a few weeks back and mentioned for SMX they want to have one round east, one central, and one west coast.  Also with NFL, College Football and MLB all currently in season, it makes domed facilities near impossible to reserve.

Just ruin it like bmx and pave all the tracks and put everyone on slicks. Problem solved. 

They've already started to move to the cookie cutter tracks. It's the next step. 

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It's Monday, where is Steve at?  Still guzzling Gatorade I hope.

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aees wrote:
No it's not simple. They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?You...

No it's not simple. 

They should design the track and limit its racing because of a one in 200 chance they have to cancel the last moto?

You actually think the riders would have raced that track with lights, when they didn't even want to race it during daylight?

There is a reason there isn't any more night races at places that don't have permanent lights installed.

Spoonguy wrote:

Nobody held a gun to Feld executive's heads and made them plan a race there. Ultimately the choice of venue is what failed.

Regarding choice of venue, there's lots of factors at play. Feld guys were on Pulp a few weeks back and mentioned for SMX they want to...

Regarding choice of venue, there's lots of factors at play. Feld guys were on Pulp a few weeks back and mentioned for SMX they want to have one round east, one central, and one west coast.  Also with NFL, College Football and MLB all currently in season, it makes domed facilities near impossible to reserve.

Do any of those facts that I acknowledge truee negate that Feld did choose the venue Saturday? Of course there are footballs games and other events going on, but the USA is a big country with a near infinite area for outdoor events. Of course I should expect no less from an organization that states outdoor MX in the southeast or Texas is impossible. Of course two strokes racing anywhere is impossible too, and if Sherco, TM, or any other brand doesn't build 400 bikes they are unfair to race professionally. Good grief....

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jmo443 wrote:
Since there are so many with an opposing view on how this was handled. How about you save your allowance mow some lawns sell your mom’s...

Since there are so many with an opposing view on how this was handled. How about you save your allowance mow some lawns sell your mom’s medications. Series is obviously profitable and you know how to run it better so why not give it a go and maybe move out of mom’s basement? 

This is not fair, many of us here are accomplished entrepreneurs in many avenues, with much success and many accolades. Doctors, lawyers, educators, patent holders, achievers of high renown. Promoting racing is not our chosen bailiwick, that is Feld's CHOSEN field. If that is the field they choose, they best strive to answer to their customers, like every other business owner. Obviously their consumers are unsatisfied or at least confused with the product, they need to at least communicate better if not perform better.

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jmo443 wrote:
Since there are so many with an opposing view on how this was handled. How about you save your allowance mow some lawns sell your mom’s...

Since there are so many with an opposing view on how this was handled. How about you save your allowance mow some lawns sell your mom’s medications. Series is obviously profitable and you know how to run it better so why not give it a go and maybe move out of mom’s basement? 

Spoonguy wrote:
This is not fair, many of us here are accomplished entrepreneurs in many avenues, with much success and many accolades. Doctors, lawyers, educators, patent holders, achievers...

This is not fair, many of us here are accomplished entrepreneurs in many avenues, with much success and many accolades. Doctors, lawyers, educators, patent holders, achievers of high renown. Promoting racing is not our chosen bailiwick, that is Feld's CHOSEN field. If that is the field they choose, they best strive to answer to their customers, like every other business owner. Obviously their consumers are unsatisfied or at least confused with the product, they need to at least communicate better if not perform better.

Of course I cannot discredit those on the form who are successful in their fields. But, let’s be real most of the problem on here are just unaccomplished assholes. 

I am also not seeing where all this hate is coming from. The situation sucked but people are asking for unreasonable remedies. I get no one wants to pay for an experience to be cut short but getting this upset is an absolute waste that isn’t accomplishing anything. 

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wtf fuck kind of sport is this…. Makes sense why we can’t go mainstream 

Every SX , Outdoor and SMX race is on TV. Plus the pre &post race shows. I’d say that’s main stream.💯

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Sux but good call. 

I don't think i'd want to be attacking a rhythm section in the mud with those concrete walls down the side.

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If we had any rider seriously injured because they ran it anyways in sketchy conditions we’d be looking for a head to hang. This is not...

If we had any rider seriously injured because they ran it anyways in sketchy conditions we’d be looking for a head to hang. This is not an outdoor mx track where there is experience managing these conditions without venue limitations. Agreed not happy but stuff happens and it’s the right call. 

well JuJu was seriously injured. Track was crazy dangerous

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Spoonguy wrote:
Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have...

Shouldn't they know it is possible it might rain, even before the event, perhaps make preparations? I don't know, for a premier event this could have been handled better, and again thanks ML for the explanations. 

TerryB wrote:
Hold these SMX "hybrid" races at roofed facilities, with an outdoor loop outside of the stadium, that can be cut-off if weather should turn shitty? Seems...

Hold these SMX "hybrid" races at roofed facilities, with an outdoor loop outside of the stadium, that can be cut-off if weather should turn shitty? Seems like a simple solution to me, but, what do I know? I'm not a successful monster truck circus promoting corporation.

List the “roofed facilities” that are available in the first part of September with baseball still going and football getting cranked up…

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Steve??? 

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I wish people could separate holding a race from putting on a TV show or a live event. The fact that so many on here have been conditioned to equate the two things says a lot. I get why feld feels that way but quite the accomplishment by them to get the fans to agree with them. 

It's a blemish on the sport that nobody is willing to put on the race unless they can also have it be the other things as well. Simplest solution and one that happens all the time in motorsports is to run it the next day. You don't need the concessions workers and the fans and the TV crews etc etc etc to put on the race the next day. Run it in the morning and be done by noon. Sports that put the actual sport first have to address all of the same issues and choose to accept them for the sake of the sport. Might even lose money on a round here and there for the sake of the sport. The fact that doing so in this sport is immediately dismissed is kind of pathetic. Playoffs......... 

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seth505 wrote:

It's Monday, where is Steve at?  Still guzzling Gatorade I hope.

I suspended him. Probably on a beach in Laguna.

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I wish people could separate holding a race from putting on a TV show or a live event. The fact that so many on here have...

I wish people could separate holding a race from putting on a TV show or a live event. The fact that so many on here have been conditioned to equate the two things says a lot. I get why feld feels that way but quite the accomplishment by them to get the fans to agree with them. 

It's a blemish on the sport that nobody is willing to put on the race unless they can also have it be the other things as well. Simplest solution and one that happens all the time in motorsports is to run it the next day. You don't need the concessions workers and the fans and the TV crews etc etc etc to put on the race the next day. Run it in the morning and be done by noon. Sports that put the actual sport first have to address all of the same issues and choose to accept them for the sake of the sport. Might even lose money on a round here and there for the sake of the sport. The fact that doing so in this sport is immediately dismissed is kind of pathetic. Playoffs......... 

Well, start with the difference between owning the track, like what happens in the NASCAR world and renting the facility and go from there there.

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olds cool wrote:

Well, start with the difference between owning the track, like what happens in the NASCAR world and renting the facility and go from there there.

Good point, maybe it's time for MONSTER ENERGY SUPERMOTORCROSS STADIUM!!!

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truck wrote:
I wish people could separate holding a race from putting on a TV show or a live event. The fact that so many on here have...

I wish people could separate holding a race from putting on a TV show or a live event. The fact that so many on here have been conditioned to equate the two things says a lot. I get why feld feels that way but quite the accomplishment by them to get the fans to agree with them. 

It's a blemish on the sport that nobody is willing to put on the race unless they can also have it be the other things as well. Simplest solution and one that happens all the time in motorsports is to run it the next day. You don't need the concessions workers and the fans and the TV crews etc etc etc to put on the race the next day. Run it in the morning and be done by noon. Sports that put the actual sport first have to address all of the same issues and choose to accept them for the sake of the sport. Might even lose money on a round here and there for the sake of the sport. The fact that doing so in this sport is immediately dismissed is kind of pathetic. Playoffs......... 

olds cool wrote:

Well, start with the difference between owning the track, like what happens in the NASCAR world and renting the facility and go from there there.

Nascar doesn't own all the tracks they race on and has similar rental/lease setup with outside track owners at many venues. 

So many excuses and none of them unique to moto..... 

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