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D.K.O.N.
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Make it make sense. Hammaker gets a 5 point penalty because he didn’t pass anyone. Levi gets a position penalty because he did pass someone. Which...

Make it make sense. Hammaker gets a 5 point penalty because he didn’t pass anyone. Levi gets a position penalty because he did pass someone. Which is worse?

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I want to see video or picture proof that the lights were red on that jump face. What they showed during the interview was from the...

I want to see video or picture proof that the lights were red on that jump face. What they showed during the interview was from the backside and the Red Cross flag was after the jump face where they couldn't see it

Yea I saw the yellow on the first jump of the double and the red cross on the left side of the second jump of the...

Yea I saw the yellow on the first jump of the double and the red cross on the left side of the second jump of the double near the turn.

Didn't look like he was waving the red flag yet though. If the lights were on, that's one thing. But the angle they showed you couldn't see the red lights. I agree that I'd petition it. If they have footage that shows the red lights, so be it, but if not, they should nix those penalties. 

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9/6/2025 1:55pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2025 1:59pm
GD2 wrote:
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Mavetism wrote:

5 points in a short "championship" like that is crazy. Why is it always different? If they were at least consistent with their penalties

This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5 points and a position. 

 

This just happened like 2 or 3 weeks ago, same penalties. I'd argue that there should be more flexibility in the penalties depending on circumstance, but they are following the current rule book. 

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Not hillbilly
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9/6/2025 1:58pm

Is it strange that they didn’t clean the 250s between motos?

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Beeby
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9/6/2025 2:00pm

Is it strange that they didn’t clean the 250s between motos?

I thought that too. Saw Jets bike is dirty but assumed that’s because of the storm but why are the 250s not clean? They’d be outside with the washers before the storm came in. 

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The Shop

9/6/2025 2:02pm

Jo mentioned no sight lap. That seems like a bad choice. I’d put tape under the fenders and rip it off after the sight lap and swap rear wheel to a clean tire. 

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Nystrom
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9/6/2025 2:02pm

Go back to your partner and continue sticking your finger up his butt....

Cool take mouth breather. Thanks for outing yourself as an ignorant bigot!

Of course I am a mouth breather!

 

I guess you breathe through buttholes or something?

Don’t want to get involved in your argument but that was so funny 😂

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9/6/2025 2:05pm

lol @ JT “The biggest championship in THE WORLD!”

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Tumic wrote:

So how many times have they said ”SMX World champion” now?…

"Yeah there's no doubt about it" only got 17 mentions this time

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9/6/2025 2:23pm

I’m really curious why none of the bikes got washed. There was plenty of time for the 250s to do their usual prep routine. Anybody have an idea what’s up with that? 450’s are still dirty too. 

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Mavetism
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GD2 wrote:
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Mavetism wrote:

5 points in a short "championship" like that is crazy. Why is it always different? If they were at least consistent with their penalties

D.K.O.N. wrote:
This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5...

This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5 points and a position. 

 

This just happened like 2 or 3 weeks ago, same penalties. I'd argue that there should be more flexibility in the penalties depending on circumstance, but they are following the current rule book. 

This is not consistent. This and last year in SX there were different occasions were riders were penalized for either 2 points, 5 points, 2 positions, even 4 or 5 positions, also red cross flag btw.

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9/6/2025 2:26pm

Run this shit tomorrow if all else fails 

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9/6/2025 2:28pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2025 2:28pm

Run this shit tomorrow if all else fails 

Just over 2 hours until sunset.

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9/6/2025 2:30pm

I thought it was funny they showed last years race and JT made the same point about Jet managing a two second gap last year as he did this year. 

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Beeby wrote:
I thought it was funny they showed last years race and JT made the same point about Jet managing a two second gap last year as...

I thought it was funny they showed last years race and JT made the same point about Jet managing a two second gap last year as he did this year. 

Every moto media talks about that for the last two years and they all act like they were the first one to notice it. 

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9/6/2025 2:34pm

As they are replaying the race they should make the commentators voice over it again. See if they can clean it up haha

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9/6/2025 2:34pm

With how broken down the track was earlier by the start of 450 moto 1. I feel anyone can win 450 moto 2 with the weather having softened and muddied the track up.

I think Tomac is my pick. Its a real shame Plessinger is out. He would probably be the favourite.

burn1986
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9/6/2025 2:36pm

Call it a wrap

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That track being a mud track is a recipe for disaster. Don’t we have the all stars racing too?

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9/6/2025 2:39pm

So when the hell are we supposed to go racing again? Stupid the delay has taken this long 

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I guess what bothers me about the 80%…or even managing a lead.  It implies everyone else is at 100%.  It’s more like 90% vs 91%.  Otherwise we would see a smoking qual lap 20 seconds faster than anyone else.  We don’t.  Chase probably felt trying to catch Jett had a little risk and second is as good as first if you win the last moto.  It is stupid and disrespectful to other top riders to imply Jett is 20% better than everyone else.  Now…is he 1-2%better?  Sure…you can argue that.  20%?  You’re ball gargling at that point.

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9/6/2025 2:39pm

Run this shit tomorrow if all else fails 

Just over 2 hours until sunset.

The lighting at the drags strip would light up the track well. I know they wouldn’t run it with the lights on but would be cool to see a night race on the circuit again 

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D.K.O.N.
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Moto110 wrote:

So when the hell are we supposed to go racing again? Stupid the delay has taken this long 

Peacock should definitely change the weather

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Mavetism wrote:

5 points in a short "championship" like that is crazy. Why is it always different? If they were at least consistent with their penalties

D.K.O.N. wrote:
This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5...

This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5 points and a position. 

 

This just happened like 2 or 3 weeks ago, same penalties. I'd argue that there should be more flexibility in the penalties depending on circumstance, but they are following the current rule book. 

Mavetism wrote:
This is not consistent. This and last year in SX there were different occasions were riders were penalized for either 2 points, 5 points, 2 positions...

This is not consistent. This and last year in SX there were different occasions were riders were penalized for either 2 points, 5 points, 2 positions, even 4 or 5 positions, also red cross flag btw.

They’re consistently inconsistent lol

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9/6/2025 2:44pm
Moto110 wrote:

So when the hell are we supposed to go racing again? Stupid the delay has taken this long 

D.K.O.N. wrote:

Peacock should definitely change the weather

It’s not about peacock it’s about how all our local racing goes off the 30 min lightning delay from last strike within 10 miles, yet dumbass feld can’t seem to do the same 

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9/6/2025 2:45pm

Any word on when they will resume the racing?

Mavetism
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9/6/2025 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2025 2:46pm
Shred wrote:
I guess what bothers me about the 80%…or even managing a lead.  It implies everyone else is at 100%.  It’s more like 90% vs 91%.  Otherwise...

I guess what bothers me about the 80%…or even managing a lead.  It implies everyone else is at 100%.  It’s more like 90% vs 91%.  Otherwise we would see a smoking qual lap 20 seconds faster than anyone else.  We don’t.  Chase probably felt trying to catch Jett had a little risk and second is as good as first if you win the last moto.  It is stupid and disrespectful to other top riders to imply Jett is 20% better than everyone else.  Now…is he 1-2%better?  Sure…you can argue that.  20%?  You’re ball gargling at that point.

How much better do we think Jett was at Redbud this year though percentage wise?

And yeah I don't disagree, saying Jett is riding at 80% is kinda disrespectful to the other riders, but we for sure don't see him at 100% most of the time.

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D.K.O.N. wrote:
This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5...

This is consistent. If you jump on a red cross, you get 5 points penalized. If you pass someone on a red flag, you get 5 points and a position. 

 

This just happened like 2 or 3 weeks ago, same penalties. I'd argue that there should be more flexibility in the penalties depending on circumstance, but they are following the current rule book. 

Mavetism wrote:
This is not consistent. This and last year in SX there were different occasions were riders were penalized for either 2 points, 5 points, 2 positions...

This is not consistent. This and last year in SX there were different occasions were riders were penalized for either 2 points, 5 points, 2 positions, even 4 or 5 positions, also red cross flag btw.

ohh_454 wrote:

They’re consistently inconsistent lol

Exactly

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