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9/6/2025 1:37am

Might be a more realistic name, but it's not a very peace prizish sounding one.

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9/6/2025 2:06am

The Department of War is still trying to win the Korean war...

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9/6/2025 2:51am

Great name change.

And glad to see them setting up shop in the Caribbean.

The drug boat vaporization vid was awesome. They've also snagged a few of those mini subs bringing in drugs.

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 What’s the point?  Just another distraction.  Focus on the task at hand. Military leadership have enough on their plates. Then again, they’re trained to tune out unnecessary chatter. 

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LoudLove wrote:
 What’s the point?  Just another distraction.  Focus on the task at hand. Military leadership have enough on their plates. Then again, they’re trained to tune out...

 What’s the point?  Just another distraction.  Focus on the task at hand. Military leadership have enough on their plates. Then again, they’re trained to tune out unnecessary chatter. 

It pays respect to all of the service members who carry out offensive operations. 

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LoudLove wrote:
 What’s the point?  Just another distraction.  Focus on the task at hand. Military leadership have enough on their plates. Then again, they’re trained to tune out...

 What’s the point?  Just another distraction.  Focus on the task at hand. Military leadership have enough on their plates. Then again, they’re trained to tune out unnecessary chatter. 

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It pays respect to all of the service members who carry out offensive operations. 

Yeah, maybe. Not sure service members view a name change as respect.  “To support and defend the Constitution”. Ergo, Department of Defense. Dept of War sounds like another Hegseth time suck…

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LoudLove wrote:
Yeah, maybe. Not sure service members view a name change as respect.  “To support and defend the Constitution”. Ergo, Department of Defense. Dept of War sounds...

Yeah, maybe. Not sure service members view a name change as respect.  “To support and defend the Constitution”. Ergo, Department of Defense. Dept of War sounds like another Hegseth time suck…

A lot of confusion at the top means chaos at the bottom.  That ain't ever good.

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Just a bunch of administrative cost and waste for basically nothing. 

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Maybe properly fund and modernize the VA.  

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Maybe properly fund and modernize the VA.  

Sorry, can't afford it, we need new stationary. 

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clown administration doing clown things and maga eating it up like good sheep

 

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9/6/2025 10:15am
ns503 wrote:

Might be a more realistic name, but it's not a very peace prizish sounding one.

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Don't complain when the next dem president changes the name to department of diplomacy or something equally as dumb. Such an unserious administration...... 

Not sure how it's inspiring or honoring to those in the service. On one hand you've got taking an oath to protect long-standing rights and the country, on the other you've got hey hope you don't get blown up playing war while we laugh about it from the department of war offices far away from whatever dumb conflict we get involved in next. That Raytheon stock is up 35% this year though so that's cool. 

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Department of war needs to be more selective in their disability discharges and start paying retirement pensions at 65.

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I'll complain. That will be a waste of money for administrative nonsense just the same. Use it for something else. Reopen some bases. Add a military medical program where people can enlist for medical training while treating hobos/poor folks, bipartisan win-win programs are easy if people can reduce their left/right bitterness. 

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I'll complain. That will be a waste of money for administrative nonsense just the same. Use it for something else. Reopen some bases. Add a military...

I'll complain. That will be a waste of money for administrative nonsense just the same. Use it for something else. Reopen some bases. Add a military medical program where people can enlist for medical training while treating hobos/poor folks, bipartisan win-win programs are easy if people can reduce their left/right bitterness. 

Thankfully this is a ‘less than symbolic’ sort of thing, the Department of War nomenclature is something like an ‘alternate’ name, not a real change. That won’t keep Hegseth from wanting to change all the signage that he possibly can, of course. And just the cost of all the signage and administrative changes will likely cost more than DOGE claims to have ‘saved’, which means approximately 100 times more than they actually did save…….

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This begs the question if the US has and active Department of War is the US actively engaged in war?

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The sand really got deep up inside the usual suspects in this thread.

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byke wrote:
I'll complain. That will be a waste of money for administrative nonsense just the same. Use it for something else. Reopen some bases. Add a military...

I'll complain. That will be a waste of money for administrative nonsense just the same. Use it for something else. Reopen some bases. Add a military medical program where people can enlist for medical training while treating hobos/poor folks, bipartisan win-win programs are easy if people can reduce their left/right bitterness. 

Just like moving the space force to Bama, Why?. Because our Governor is a idiot

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9/6/2025 4:41pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2025 4:42pm

I think Trump does this stuff just to keep the mainstream media stressing about nothing. It’s funny to watch them freak out over it.

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early wrote:

Department of war needs to be more selective in their disability discharges and start paying retirement pensions at 65.

I'm glad you used the word "selective".  I have no heartache with rooting out fraud.  But, there are a lot of us that sacrificed body and soul to get the job done.  I don't regret it...I believe in duty.

I reckon if you make retirees wait till they're 65 to collect that pension...you're gonna lose a lot of future leaders.  The one's that you need to make that shit work.

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early wrote:

Department of war needs to be more selective in their disability discharges and start paying retirement pensions at 65.

plowboy wrote:
I'm glad you used the word "selective".  I have no heartache with rooting out fraud.  But, there are a lot of us that sacrificed body and...

I'm glad you used the word "selective".  I have no heartache with rooting out fraud.  But, there are a lot of us that sacrificed body and soul to get the job done.  I don't regret it...I believe in duty.

I reckon if you make retirees wait till they're 65 to collect that pension...you're gonna lose a lot of future leaders.  The one's that you need to make that shit work.

At those leaders the best on merit or are they the ones that stick around the longest?

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It used to be called Department of War until after WWII.  So, they just gave it back it's original name, they didn't rename it. 

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early wrote:
This begs the question if the US has and active Department of War is the US actively engaged in war?

This begs the question if the US has and active Department of War is the US actively engaged in war?

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The US has been at war with North Korea since 1950, a peace treaty was never signed.

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The sand really got deep up inside the usual suspects in this thread.

What branch were you in again, JB?  I forget…

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9/6/2025 8:19pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2025 8:20pm
byke wrote:

Just a bunch of administrative cost and waste for basically nothing. 

Im guessing you were this vocal about all those bases being renamed under dementia Joe and the waste associated with that, too ?

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I think this actually goes a lot deeper than people realize.


Prior to being the DOD it was already called the Department of War, however the name was changed to sound more benign to the public.  Department of Defense implies that we aren’t actively going out and seeking (or creating covertly) new conflicts, while Department of War much more accurately depicts the reality of what this organization does (aka keep us in a perpetual state of war).  It’s similar to how the Atomic Energy Commission was in charge of designing, testing, and procuring nuclear weapons that can destroy the world, but was able to do so with relatively little knowledge of the American public during the Cold War due to its harmless sounding name.


This could be just an idiotic display of bravado with little reasoning behind it, or it may be designed to make the public scrutinize what their military is actually doing just a bit more and ideally put some pressure on to end this cycle of constant warfare.  It’s like how in 1984 the DOW was called the Department of Peace and designed to ensure a constant state of war and unrest, that’s not far off how the DOD functions and the name is similarly ironic.

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9/7/2025 2:54am Edited Date/Time 9/7/2025 2:55am

The sand really got deep up inside the usual suspects in this thread.

LoudLove wrote:

What branch were you in again, JB?  I forget…

In your case, it sounds like the garden hose might do the trick.

Run on over to moto, there's a guy name steve urchin who finds himself in the same situation. You can take turns holding the hose for each other.

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The sand really got deep up inside the usual suspects in this thread.

LoudLove wrote:

What branch were you in again, JB?  I forget…

In your case, it sounds like the garden hose might do the trick.Run on over to moto, there's a guy name steve urchin who finds himself...

In your case, it sounds like the garden hose might do the trick.

Run on over to moto, there's a guy name steve urchin who finds himself in the same situation. You can take turns holding the hose for each other.

No, seriously.  Weren’t you Army?  Armored division in Germany or something similar?  We’ll agree to disagree. Have a fine Army (Navy) day!

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JM485 wrote:
I think this actually goes a lot deeper than people realize.Prior to being the DOD it was already called the Department of War, however the name...

I think this actually goes a lot deeper than people realize.


Prior to being the DOD it was already called the Department of War, however the name was changed to sound more benign to the public.  Department of Defense implies that we aren’t actively going out and seeking (or creating covertly) new conflicts, while Department of War much more accurately depicts the reality of what this organization does (aka keep us in a perpetual state of war).  It’s similar to how the Atomic Energy Commission was in charge of designing, testing, and procuring nuclear weapons that can destroy the world, but was able to do so with relatively little knowledge of the American public during the Cold War due to its harmless sounding name.


This could be just an idiotic display of bravado with little reasoning behind it, or it may be designed to make the public scrutinize what their military is actually doing just a bit more and ideally put some pressure on to end this cycle of constant warfare.  It’s like how in 1984 the DOW was called the Department of Peace and designed to ensure a constant state of war and unrest, that’s not far off how the DOD functions and the name is similarly ironic.

That’s a solid analysis. But I doubt Hegseth has put that much thought into it. “War” just sounds cooler than “Defense”, even though it’s in the oath. 

All Federal agency spending should be scrutinized.  And it’s SecDef’s responsibility to manage the department accordingly.  But the primary role is mission readiness, and like the previous administration’s DEI initiatives, a half-hearted rebrand acts more like a distraction. 

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