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Here's your "World Championship" Beebs. Not a single rider in MXGP top 40 from anywhere outside Europe, but yeah die on that hill. 😂
2025 MXGP Standings after 17 of 20 rounds
2025 MXGP Standings after 17 of 20 rounds
Pos. Num. Rider Bike Nat. Pts.
1 #3 Romain Febvre Kawasaki FRA 835
2 #96 Lucas Coenen KTM BEL 804
3 #259 Glenn Coldenhoff Fantic NED 617
4 #70 Ruben Fernandez Honda ESP 523
5 #10 Calvin Vlaanderen Yamaha NED 497
6 #84 Jeffrey Herlings KTM NED 466
7 #132 Andrea Bonacorsi Fantic ITA 461
8 #959 Maxime Renaux Yamaha FRA 447
9 #243 Tim Gajser Honda SLO 368
10 #91 Jeremy Seewer Ducati SUI 346
11 #253 Jan Pancar KTM SLO 277
12 #189 Brian Bogers Fantic NED 274
13 #919 Ben Watson Beta GBR 271
14 #93 Jago Geerts Yamaha BEL 260
15 #24 Kevin Horgmo Honda NOR 243
16 #517 Isak Gifting Yamaha SWE 226
17 #41 Pauls Jonass Kawasaki LAT 204
18 #101 Mattia Guadagnini Ducati ITA 194
19 #32 Brent Van doninck Honda BEL 177
20 #39 Roan Van De Moosdijk KTM NED 168
21 #811 Adam Sterry KTM GBR 104
22 #226 Tom Koch Beta GER 88
23 #87 Kevin Brumann Husqvarna SUI 78
24 #92 Valentin Guillod Yamaha SUI 72
25 #303 Alberto Forato Honda ITA 72
26 #71 Maximilian Spies KTM GER 47
27 #427 Hakon Fredriksen Yamaha NOR 41
28 #411 Marcel Stauffer KTM AUT 38
29 #222 Antonio Cairoli Ducati ITA 37
30 #319 Quentin Marc Prugnieres Honda FRA 31
31 #326 Josh Gilbert Honda GBR 27
32 #300 Noah Ludwig KTM GER 22
33 #17 Cornelius Toendel Honda NOR 20
34 #261 Jorgen-Matthias Talviku Yamaha EST 17
35 #610 Mairis Pumpurs Husqvarna LAT 10
36 #177 Alessandro Lupino Ducati ITA 9
37 #12 Mathys Boisrame KTM FRA 9
38 #4 Arnaud Tonus Yamaha SUI 8
39 #29 Pekka Nissinen GASGAS FIN 7
40 #128 Ivo Monticelli Kawasaki ITA 6
I know alot of US fans are using this has a benchmark to say the Nationals are better than the GP's again, and while I do think the tides are turning, there's no way it should have gone this sideways.
Honestly, what a pathetic show of character. I feel bad for the guys at Kawasaki who put so much effort in him, and were willing to be patient with him in Supercross (were willing to set for 15th's) and be paid back with excuses and low effort. I'm not the biggest Sexton fan, but I hope he lights Prado up next year on the Kawi.
The internet isn’t exploding about Vialle. He’s had enough and is going back to Europe not even contesting the 450 guys here and he’s no crybaby. He does have the regional SX under his belt though.
One of the few only reasonable takes I’ve come across on 100000s of comments.
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2 sx titles in 3 years. And it appears he’s only leaving because his Ktm offer was shit 1 year deal for meh money, and the Honda deal was multi year for good money: don’t try to frame it like he couldn’t hang.
We can name 10 250 guys who grew up racing sx and were groomed for ama Mx and sx and spent 5+ years in the 250s and didn’t get a title let alone 2 like TV…
Dude, you need a geography lesson.
Probably counting the days when AMA SX also had world championship status...
He crossed the pond with a champion’s crown,
Sun on the visor, chin up—not down.
The hype train howled through customs and dust;
Gate drop—bam—now it’s throttle or bust.
Whoops like shark teeth, rhythm gone slack,
Front end twitching, rear end fights back.
Jett in the distance, Coop on the prow,
Lap charts whisper: “He’s learning now.”
Spanish silk meets American chop,
Glory on paper, time on the clock.
Crowd sings louder, verdict abrupt:
“Came to the States and yeah… he sucked.”
But motos are long and pride is a spring—
Clickers get twisted; bruises still sting.
Kings can stumble, champions adapt:
Today he got smoked; tomorrow—he’s lapped?
Maybe you should do some research on what designates a world championship. It’s really used for many things and sports. This is just an attempt by you to make MXGP seem more prestigious. I really don’t care whether it’s a world championship or not. The naming doesn’t get me worked up.
I've never really been a fan of his! I hated that he got 'lucky' with that last world title and then went to the States (If you weren't aware cause Gajser had the footpeg issue in a moto late but yeah yeah no such thing as luck and all that) I was torn at the start of the year cause I didn't want him to win but I knew the thumpers would take that to mean the GPs aren't as good if he didn't, so I didn't want that either..
All that said, some of you are being so dramatic about it all haha..
Leave the cringe poetry to Lewis Phillips.
So what racer gets George’s spot that he’s not racing? Do they know they’re in? Also opens another LCQ spot no?
If we’re looking at blame pie, Prado is the baker, but where’s there’s smoke there’s fire, Kawi aren’t innocent in all of this.
Will be very interesting if the the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, comes out one day. Could see it becoming a long form saga article.
he go fast but not that fast
We've seen enough of the green dildo floundering out on the track.
Nope he just cross jumps anyone that comes close to him. Too bad he couldn’t get the Kawi to handle good enough to use the same tactics over here
My latest world champion? Huh
We all know the supercross titles aren’t true world ones. You really think Tomac thinks he is a world champion? Come on
I don’t need to research it. I’ve watched the world championships my entire life. International participation in a domestic championship does not make that domestic championship a world title.
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You know who else has an FIM world championship? Shane McElrath.
Oh, and Tomac won an FIM world championship last year.
Lets see what he does on the KTM? Hopefully he can make it through SX injury free😬
Outdoors 3-8
Supercross 7-11
I honestly don’t get the world championships vs national championship crap talk. Supercross is the most prestigious championship and it’s a national title. If you told me Prado was a 4 time world champion vs a 4 time Spanish national champion(and it had the same prestige as mxgp) then who the f cares. The majority of the people racing the world championship of mxgp want to race national championships in America instead.
GTFO of here with that shit. Just because FIM decides to call it a "World Championship" doesn't make it so.
The United States is one of the largest countries in the WORLD and MXGP doesn't even race here. We've got riders from all over the world in the AMA series. An AMA National title is way more prestigious than a FIM title that can barely fill half of the gate racing in shit hole countries.
Most prestigious is not the same as most lucrative. Money and fame (which brings even MORE money) is, for the most part, what draws those European racers to our shores. They want to get rich quick, and there's no better way to do that than a Supercross title. For some of us, though, Supercross isn't the high-water mark of the sport, it's a dangerous, high-wire circus-like thing that passes the time while we wait for the important races to begin (outdoors). I watch a lot of MXGP, and those tracks are no joke. Those MXGP guys have earned the title "World Champion," if only due to how many times they've raced whilst suffering from extreme jet-lag.
Whatever Supercross is or is not, no one waits between races in a kiddie pool filled with ice water, and no one has difficulty standing after a main event due to a state of near-exhaustion. Sometimes, Supercross main event winners are barely even sweating. The same cannot be said for outdoor races, be it here in the States or across the pond; and from its inception, motocross was intended to be a test of physical endurance every bit as much as a test of athletic skill.
Just a couple points I felt were worth making.
Now, back to hating Prado's every move and loving Kawasaki's every counter-move.
So about where he was this year with a slight bump from actually trying? Sounds about right to me
That makes so little logic. Paying him millions with hundreds of thousands of dollars of infrastructure to support his efforts, sending him from one end of a continent to another to test, and you think Kawasaki conspired not to support him?
What hill am I dying on? Sure, the top 40 are Europeans this year, but the World Championship label comes from racing across 17 countries on 4 continents. AMA never leaves the U.S.—MXGP is the only truly global series. Its not the people that make it global.
There is no place here for your common sense.
"the world championship label" is something that Infront purchases from FIM. If Infront ever decided, like Feld, that the FIM is dead weight and stopped sending them money, would you still refer to the MXGP champ as a world champion or would you be a man of your word and say he's just the european champ?
Another question, would you view the WSX title any differently with or without the ". . . an FIM world championship" moniker?
Was Cooper Webb a world champion in 2021, but Eli Tomac only a national champion in 2022, for winning the same Monster Energy Supercross series?
Don't I know.
The strangest part of all this is, I don't like Jorge Prado. I've thought he was an ungrateful prick from back long ago when he brake-checked and cross-jumped Antonio Cairoli (my all-time favorite racer) after Cairoli had so graciously mentored him. It's this predictable Vital-MX mob-mentality bullshit that makes me defend him, because whatever that mob is doing, I'm seemingly pre-destined to fight against it.
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