Jorge Prado Out of SuperMotocross Playoffs

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This is false and at best cherry picking. You are the only person I know, including those who side with Prado who would ever make the...

This is false and at best cherry picking. You are the only person I know, including those who side with Prado who would ever make the claim he was thankful of the team up till wash. 

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This is unadilla press day. He doesn’t say anything bad about the team, says they have tested and they are going to keep pushing to try...

This is unadilla press day. He doesn’t say anything bad about the team, says they have tested and they are going to keep pushing to try to get better. I’ll even go watch washougal and see if that’s the one thinking of. 

https://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/press-day-interviews-2025-unadi…

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Yeah well I think it was at Unadilla that he was blocking roost with his hand off the bars while going backwards for 15-12. 

washougal. 

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canuck250f wrote:

it’s like he thinks he is the son of Jesus or something!! 😉

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

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Well we know he quit on the team....We know that Kawi was bending over backwards trying to get to where he wanted by testing at Club...

Well we know he quit on the team....We know that Kawi was bending over backwards trying to get to where he wanted by testing at Club, by having Tickle work overtime on testing and by flying in Taka in from Japan with parts to try....What we don't know is whether Kawi has the ability or the personnel to meet his needs and expectations...but at the end of the day he signed the contract rode the bike and was quoted as saying how much better the Kaw was than his Gas Gas...He couldn't have handled this any worse....

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You assume Kawi was bending over backwards.

DonM wrote:
I don’t assume I know….You don’t think by going to Club because Prado wanted to train there, having your test rider work overtime to help get...

I don’t assume I know….You don’t think by going to Club because Prado wanted to train there, having your test rider work overtime to help get the bike where Jorge wants it and then flying the main development rider from japan with new parts that were created off of feedback from Jorge and developed ASAP is bending over backwards??  And even if they weren’t trying (which they were) it in no way excuses the sandbagging and public shamming that Ole George has done…And this is coming from someone who has been very critical of Kawi and their Managment…but he signed the contract rode the bike and claimed publicly that is was worlds better than the Gas Gas…. 

Those things may have been Kawi bending over backwards, or they may have been reluctantly done by Kawi at Jorge’s insistence.  We’ll never really know.

And your last sentence - come on you aren’t seriously using a press quote from a rider made while the ink was still wet on his fat new contract as evidence that the bike was ok?

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canuck250f wrote:

it’s like he thinks he is the son of Jesus or something!! 😉

Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

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It’s wild how quick people forget. A multi-time MXGP World Champion doesn’t suddenly “forget how to ride.” Prado gambled on himself—new country, new culture, new bike...

It’s wild how quick people forget. A multi-time MXGP World Champion doesn’t suddenly “forget how to ride.” Prado gambled on himself—new country, new culture, new bike, new frame philosophy—and it didn’t click. That’s not weakness, that’s risk.

Not one of us is privy to the contract language, so all the supposition only shows who the real fool is.

If the story ended at Budds Creek, he’s still a World Champion with a Hall of Fame résumé before most riders even sniff a factory ride. He took the shot most wouldn’t dare, and yeah—it blew up. But motocross history is built by those who risk the fall.

Vitards can pile on with “crybaby” memes and thumbs-downs, but ten years from now the names remembered will be the ones who won on the world stage. Jorge Prado is already carved in that stone.

So have your perverse fun and games, and remember—the mirror always reflects the truth.

Even if you want to call him a world champion with a hall of fame resume, he has proven he is also a shitty person and a quitter.

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canuck250f wrote:

it’s like he thinks he is the son of Jesus or something!! 😉

Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

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ando wrote:

You assume Kawi was bending over backwards.

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I don’t assume I know….You don’t think by going to Club because Prado wanted to train there, having your test rider work overtime to help get...

I don’t assume I know….You don’t think by going to Club because Prado wanted to train there, having your test rider work overtime to help get the bike where Jorge wants it and then flying the main development rider from japan with new parts that were created off of feedback from Jorge and developed ASAP is bending over backwards??  And even if they weren’t trying (which they were) it in no way excuses the sandbagging and public shamming that Ole George has done…And this is coming from someone who has been very critical of Kawi and their Managment…but he signed the contract rode the bike and claimed publicly that is was worlds better than the Gas Gas…. 

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Those things may have been Kawi bending over backwards, or they may have been reluctantly done by Kawi at Jorge’s insistence.  We’ll never really know.And your...

Those things may have been Kawi bending over backwards, or they may have been reluctantly done by Kawi at Jorge’s insistence.  We’ll never really know.

And your last sentence - come on you aren’t seriously using a press quote from a rider made while the ink was still wet on his fat new contract as evidence that the bike was ok?

Listen to yourself. Of course they reluctantly went to club with the team and moved testing there. Reluctantly brought a test rider from Japan with new parts.

They were desperately trying to help him

 

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canuck250f wrote:

it’s like he thinks he is the son of Jesus or something!! 😉

Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

Jorge's dad's name is Jesus.

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I know Lewis and Kellen love to defend Prado because's hes from MXGP. And of course, Prado is riding no where near his potential, but that...

I know Lewis and Kellen love to defend Prado because's hes from MXGP. And of course, Prado is riding no where near his potential, but that does not justify the character he has shown.

He is a rider who is disrespectful and arrogant, while refusing to take any blame. He also sounds incredibly rude in interviews and honestly like a guy I'd hate to be around if that's his form of being honest. There's one thing being blunt like Ferrandis, and there's another to just act like an asshole and make snarky remarks in every interview.

That is why, I personally will never be a fan of him moving forward, simply because of his poor character/personality.

He also is a reckless rider, who shows no care for others. Cross jumped Herlings, resulting in him getting injured. T-boned AC for like 12th place at A1 when everyone knew AC was dealing with the nerve issue, resulting in AC breaking fingers and missing races on what was supposed to be his retirement tour.

I got a totally different vibe.

I appreciate that if Prado doesn’t agree with a question inference he’s not going to just go along with it and agree but give his honest opinion. I don’t see it as him having an attitude to just not agree.  I haven’t seen Prado speak in a while but when I did he was optimistic and feeling like he could run with them.  

I heard something about bike issues and I don’t think of Prado as being a cry baby but it must be scary if it’s not handling right and to be outside the top 5.  Don’t take chances and end up with bad accidents like Roczen did who is claimed to be picky too. 

They say he does ride a wide bike but that’s just his style if he’s used to being out front and to hold his lead.  Prado may not have said no to Kawi but they may have decided like Craig just somehow switched from Yamaha.  Theoretically, don’t quit just because you’re temporarily top 10 but there’s other factors like bike setup if he can do the obstacles or other contractual stuff we don’t know about.  

Kawi has let other riders go under odd circumstances like Emig, Milsaps, and Stew.  You could throw in Tomac if they couldn’t get him similarly comfortable with the hydro clutch.  Remember how people were hard on Tomac’s dad as if he was butting heads with Kawi trying to run the show but we haven’t heard that since he’s been at Yami?

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Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

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Mit12 wrote:

Who cares? I have no desire to watch him get the hole shot and drop back to 15th every race. 

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That doesn't  happen when he's on a ktm

Shouldn’t happen on any damn bike bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a SX championship over a MXGP championship any day of the week and twice on sundays. Shoot I’d rather have a west coast regional championship over a MX2 title racing in BFE. 

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Question is, how soon will he be riding the KTM. 

roby029 wrote:
they wont let him out of his contract until the end of all races happening in 2025 guarantee that ...hes probably going to have to buy...

they wont let him out of his contract until the end of all races happening in 2025 guarantee that ...hes probably going to have to buy his way out of it 

How about a white ktm husky?

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I was so happy he was coming over here to add to our series but I have lost all respect for him

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I haven’t. Dude came to a bunch of tracks he’s never ridden on a brand new chassis he has no experience on in the premier class...

I haven’t. Dude came to a bunch of tracks he’s never ridden on a brand new chassis he has no experience on in the premier class against a class that has raced these tracks a million times on bikes they have been on for quite a while and the AMA guys are much better then the current MXGP class and still finished in 6th. 

I dont think the issue is with his results when he tried....

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Beeby wrote:

I mean, he has won 4 world championships. Which is 4x more than anyone actively riding in America, soooo…

TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

You do realize you can have a world championship by having competition from all over the world without actually leaving one continent?

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It’s wild how quick people forget. A multi-time MXGP World Champion doesn’t suddenly “forget how to ride.” Prado gambled on himself—new country, new culture, new bike...

It’s wild how quick people forget. A multi-time MXGP World Champion doesn’t suddenly “forget how to ride.” Prado gambled on himself—new country, new culture, new bike, new frame philosophy—and it didn’t click. That’s not weakness, that’s risk.

Not one of us is privy to the contract language, so all the supposition only shows who the real fool is.

If the story ended at Budds Creek, he’s still a World Champion with a Hall of Fame résumé before most riders even sniff a factory ride. He took the shot most wouldn’t dare, and yeah—it blew up. But motocross history is built by those who risk the fall.

Vitards can pile on with “crybaby” memes and thumbs-downs, but ten years from now the names remembered will be the ones who won on the world stage. Jorge Prado is already carved in that stone.

So have your perverse fun and games, and remember—the mirror always reflects the truth.

I’m halfway convinced at this point this account is some sort of elaborate bot or something. More than half the replies are very clearly Ai generated,  the overuse of hyphens being the biggest giveaway. Tons of the same Ai generated replies in other Prado threads and the KTM financial threads. Go run some of the posts through an Ai detector yourself. IMG 6905.png?VersionId=UhHO.v9MnR E

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TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

You do realize you can have a world championship by having competition from all over the world without actually leaving one continent?

Wasn’t there a dude sent from Spain about a myth the world not being flat or is that a different concept than motocross?

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DonM wrote:

So you think he handled it properly by complaining on social media and trying not to qualify on purpose? 

ando wrote:
It’s somewhat curious that we’ve heard absolutely zero from Kawasaki on this whole matter so far.  I get that sometimes it’s better to say nothing especially...

It’s somewhat curious that we’ve heard absolutely zero from Kawasaki on this whole matter so far.  I get that sometimes it’s better to say nothing especially if you believe it might be headed toward legal proceedings and that may be the case here.

Nonetheless it’s possible that some set of circumstances has led Prado to behave the way he did.  I’m not defending his behaviour necessarily but I’m trying to look beyond what we can see.  Mostly people don’t resort to extreme behaviour without some genuine cause or reason.  It’s possible that he’s just being infantile but it’s also possible that he’s tried every other reasonable avenue to the bike where he wants and Kawi haven’t delivered.  

This is the point I keep coming back to. On the topic of qualifying at Budds Creek alone, there have been ZERO quotes from Kawasaki or Prado saying that he deliberately tried not to qualify. No one on the record, just a lot of assumptions by the media and the fans following the media reports.  I think there’s a reason for this lack of reporting, but I am not sure why.

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TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

You do realize you can have a world championship by having competition from all over the world without actually leaving one continent?

No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he get to call himself world champion for that?

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TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

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I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a...

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a SX championship over a MXGP championship any day of the week and twice on sundays. Shoot I’d rather have a west coast regional championship over a MX2 title racing in BFE. 

Good for you. You still won’t be world champion though. 

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Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

You do realize you can have a world championship by having competition from all over the world without actually leaving one continent?

Beeby wrote:
No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he...

No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he get to call himself world champion for that?

Herlings probably made more prize money in those British championship races than he did all year racing the “prestigious world championship” so there is that….

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TAUTOG wrote:

Tomac has more than 4 world championships. So jot that down.

He struggled with his bike this year too.

Beeby wrote:
Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

ohh_454 wrote:
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a...

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a SX championship over a MXGP championship any day of the week and twice on sundays. Shoot I’d rather have a west coast regional championship over a MX2 title racing in BFE. 

Best of the best I’d say is the des nations. Tim Gasjer is champion of that at the moment, keep trying..:

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You do realize you can have a world championship by having competition from all over the world without actually leaving one continent?

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No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he...

No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he get to call himself world champion for that?

ohh_454 wrote:

Herlings probably made more prize money in those British championship races than he did all year racing the “prestigious world championship” so there is that….

Did winning a domestic championship (like the US one) make him world champion though? Hmm

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Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure —...

Ugh, how many times do we have to explain this… Tomac has zero world championships. AMA Supercross and Motocross are domestic U.S. series. Prestigious, sure — but racing in one country doesn’t suddenly make it a world title. The world is a bit bigger than the U.S., and FIM World Championships are the actual global stage. Prado has those, Tomac doesn’t.
 

ohh_454 wrote:
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a...

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a SX championship over a MXGP championship any day of the week and twice on sundays. Shoot I’d rather have a west coast regional championship over a MX2 title racing in BFE. 

Beeby wrote:

Best of the best I’d say is the des nations. Tim Gasjer is champion of that at the moment, keep trying..:

I also remember Tim looking like a novice on our tamed down monster cup track too one year. 

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I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a...

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but US SX and MX basically IS the world championship where the best of the best race. I’ll take a SX championship over a MXGP championship any day of the week and twice on sundays. Shoot I’d rather have a west coast regional championship over a MX2 title racing in BFE. 

Beeby wrote:

Best of the best I’d say is the des nations. Tim Gasjer is champion of that at the moment, keep trying..:

ohh_454 wrote:

I also remember Tim looking like a novice on our tamed down monster cup track too one year. 

The fairground races that even the promoter ditched. Yep 

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Prado is the only rider to come over from another country to race SX and MX and acted like a spoiled brat because he could not perform up to his or Kawasaki’s standards. I was a huge fan of Prado of so much now. 

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No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he...

No, no you can’t, that’s a domestic championship with international riders participating. Herlings took part in the British championship in 2024. He is Dutch. Does he get to call himself world champion for that?

ohh_454 wrote:

Herlings probably made more prize money in those British championship races than he did all year racing the “prestigious world championship” so there is that….

Beeby wrote:

Did winning a domestic championship (like the US one) make him world champion though? Hmm

Well your latest world champion didn’t do jack over here. Send another one over for the year. Ohh Yaa and you said Tomac has ZERO world championships, but you must be corrected, Eli is THE REINING FIM WORLD SUPERCROSS CHAMPION. I repeat, REINING FIM WORLD SUPERCROSS CHAMPION. So actually regarding your post earlier saying Eli wasn’t a world champion, he actually is and he has all these domestic ones too. 

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
I haven’t. Dude came to a bunch of tracks he’s never ridden on a brand new chassis he has no experience on in the premier class...

I haven’t. Dude came to a bunch of tracks he’s never ridden on a brand new chassis he has no experience on in the premier class against a class that has raced these tracks a million times on bikes they have been on for quite a while and the AMA guys are much better then the current MXGP class and still finished in 6th. 

I am trying to keep this in mind and reserve judgement, but I fear he may have irreparably damaged his career, at least State-side. Wherever he goes, whatever he ends up riding next, he is going to have to come out swinging, with podium finishes, in order to salvage his career here.  That's some enormous pressure.

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9/4/2025 8:43pm
Mit12 wrote:
Prado is the only rider to come over from another country to race SX and MX and acted like a spoiled brat because he could not...

Prado is the only rider to come over from another country to race SX and MX and acted like a spoiled brat because he could not perform up to his or Kawasaki’s standards. I was a huge fan of Prado of so much now. 

Where do people think he will finish on a ktm?  Is he top 5-10 material with the current competition in the states?  People may have to either go back and edit what they typed or stand by it.  Is the goal to be on a ktm and still race here or be a claimed cry baby type and go back to Europe?  Switching bikes and still running SMX isn’t backing down.

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280driver wrote:

He’s made a lifelong fan out of me.  A lifelong fan of any/every rider that beats him.

 

That`s 5 guys, 2 Aussies and 3 Americans 😅

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