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I do remember some us rider coming over from the states, i believe on the same brand he was racing the year before in ama. And hé was not riding very well. Didnt even finish the season. Let alone 6th overall.
RV won an overall on his 2nd attempt and when he broke his ass he was above Febvre in points who by the way won the title that year. People that still shit on RV are absolute idiots, people get injured in our sport every single year, part of the sport sadly. Nagl, Cairoli, Desalle were all at their peak in 2015 and they also crashed out of the championship. It is what it is
To be honest... at this point, if Kawi benched him I would buy a shirt to show my support of getting rid of him. Maybe not a bike or a silly SxS.... but at least a shirt.
People will use this word for anything LMAO.
Do you think someone saying "the USA, where immigrants run the show" would seriously fall into the category with someone you would call "woke" IE an overly outward liberal?...no. You don'tt even understand the insult you are trying to throw out.
Having said that,, the post you are replying to is so all over the place I can'tt even follow wtf they are trying to say lol.
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I wouldn't be so sure. It's enough Kawi wouldn't be allowed to alter fork heights, linkage ratios, offsets etc because Japan says it's not allowed. As I said before, Honda refused to change it. Yamaha Japan still don't allow teams to talk directly to engine builders in Italy.
I haven't heard one thing that they are as open as they claim to be. All historical info says otherwise. You are just assuming it's better. Anderson and AC was/is not happy with the new 2023 bike (despite results).
I could see the conversation going:
Great engine is in place. Suspension is stiffer but now it's unstable. I need different offsets, other linkage to lower the bike or whatever more to make it stable.
Kawi: no sorry, can't do that. It doesn't work on our bike. It's not been tested, and it's not approved by Kawi Japan. Prado: I'm out, I'm not spending another 4-6 months fighting for shit that KTM gave me in 2 days.
Kawi could kill the above immediately, but they have an even worse approach than Prado: They dont communicate shit and that is typical for someone that doesn't want to be placed against the wall and have more detailed questions around their program asked.
Febvre raced on a Yamaha that year.
What a homer....And we all also remember a win and being competitive in the few races he was in in before injury....Now George on the other hand has given zero effort, verbally blaming the team and bike, and hasn't been even close to being competitive outside of Southwick....He has quit on his team and the fans....but what he did at Budds is inexcusable, to quit and put no effort into qualifying and to do it on purpose to avoid racing is complete BS....time for baby George to go back to MXGP with his tail between his legs because there is no coming back from this...
Just for the drama, I’d love to see how he’d do on a bike similar to his GP bike at MXDN but I never held Prado in that high regard. He’s a holeshot and hold on guy who won in the absence of Herlings
Stewart did the same, quit the team, he could and they allowed it. Bike sucked. Listen to Phil on Pulp.
Don't see you setting fire to James?
Kawi forcing Prado to race a bike he isn't comfortable on because they have penalties in their contract not fielding riders, that is BS. Will end up like Chase, crashing out while trying. Or James.
Kawi should have stepped up like KTM did with Viałle, with proper communication. That's how a serious team handles it. Ok, you are not comfortable, let's work this out and sit you out. Instead it's being reported they are forcing him to ride SMX to avoid penalties.
There is always two side to look at it.
No... Stewart left a team he never quit on a team....and I certainly don't remember him trying to sandbag so bad as to not qualify on purpose...James, although unhappy, showed up and put his best effort in every week (It's where his win or crash rep came from).....sorry but it's time for your boy and his Prima Donna attitude to head back to MXGP with his tail between his legs...I was a fan and was rooting for his success but then he started blaming the team, a team that was doing everything to make him happy, and all he did was shit on them...just imagine how this would be going if he was on Star and blamed and quit like he has....Bobby would physically throw his pompous ass out in the street...
Yea but mark was giving 100% effort if not more. That’s why he was crashing. Now he’s making motogp boring😂
Stewart quit. He didnt want to race anymore on that bike.
Jeremy Albrecht, also a former mechanic for James in his early pro days, had this to say about his rider in an April interview with Cycle News.com.
“I think it’s confidence, he’s thinking it’s something with set-up or whatever. But we go testing, and he picks the set ups that we race with, it’s not like we build it and say ride it. When all these rumors started, nothing seemed that bad.”
Then he quit the team. Its well known. And Phil should know better than anyone.
If Kawi allowed Prado to leave, he would leave.
Lewis, I haven’t seen any interviews with Jorge regarding Budds Creek. Did he just refuse to talk to you guys?
It’s comical that you think the Stewart situation and the Prado situation are the same….James never quit trying….George has yet to…I know you are a huge MXGP apologist but even one that is blinded by their faith can see the difference….and you may want to listen to the Pulp show again as Matthes said pretty much the same as me…James never quit he just left the team he didn’t like….George quit trying….big difference…
How does this add to the context with RV though? 😂
In all seriousness, Prado's setup looks way too soft. Looks to me like he's blowing through the travel initially and hitting a wall of compression damping that a pro would want. That overly soft initial movement would make it hard to charge into anything confidently. There was a particularly rutted/choppy downhill at Budds Creek which made it easy to spot.
His English is quite good, but I suspect there is a communication gap: his request for more "comfort" is probably being interpreted as "softer" and it makes his setup look worse and worse. I maintain he should drop $10k on the A-kit setup of his choosing and get the standard pro-level stiffness and see if he can do better. The reason he did ok in SX is probably because he had no basis for setup and they gave him a good baseline. Outdoors probably started similar and then the downward spiral began. Really a shame.
Jorge doesn’t know how to set up or test a bike. And then doesn’t push in practice.
How I imagine the convo goes
JP: the bike is not comfortable.
Kawi: What’s the problem?
JP:……
Kawi:…
JP: I don’t like the bike.
Does anyone know if Reed kept working with him or did Chad realize he’s wasting his time?
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Ohh the guy that still won a race? lol
As LP & Adam reminded us, let's remember that JP was also pretty vocal against KTM back then and despite the World Championships, there was no love lost at the end of 2024 season.
If I was KTM negotiating a ride for him, I would seriously bootcamp him at Baker's for next MX season.
Prado and RV are (were) in way different parts of their career and in most sane people's eyes this has nothing to do with what side of the pond they come from. Also RV crashed while battling and did not "cruise" around. Seems pretty clear the team isn't thrilled so think that speaks volumes over speculation etc.
I don’t know but he won two motos in the Des Nations on a small bore from the back row if it’s the guy I’m thinking of. Beat the best in the world twice I think that day.
No, James tried until he crashed is what he said.
Thats not a positive thing. Then you end up like Stewart, or Sexton, or Canard.
James quit the team, because of the bike.
The 2nd race at that
Well, we have a guy that is, to some degree, transparent and thinks that the bike is not good enough for him.
Then he gets roasted because he is transparent and throws the bike under the bus, at least that's how most take it.
No wonder guys don't say anything to the press. Think anyone is going to speak their mind again? It's not a rare incidence about a rider not gelling with a bike or team, in fact it happens more than we will ever know.
After This roasting, we will never know what goes on behind the scenes again. Ever!
I always hate this shit. "I thought you wanted guys to be transparent;." Yes, hiding information is stupid. Saying a bunch of lazy bullshit is also stupid. It's not a binary. He could be transparent about his struggles with the bike and also take responsibility for his role in this season.
Time will tell if it's all him, a combination of he and the bike, or the bike.
I think the media has just spun this into clickbait heaven, as everyone and their brother is talking about this and talking about Prado in a very bad way.
Obviously both have a fiduciary contract to one another, so neither has thrown in the towel. Why? We will know soon enough....
We should have poached Gasjer instead of this guy. Tim is easily the best guy that Europe has produced in the last decade. He’s a warrior.
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