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Even with my limited American education, I understand the difference between a country (singular) and countries (plural).
In theory yes, but in practice that’s not always the case. I think it was last year in Italy the kid that was like top 5 in emx did mx2 and I think got on the podium?
The closest equivalent to emx in America would be the A class or even the B class at Loretta Lynn’s or other top amateur races. The top guys from the A class can and usually do jump right into the pro ranks and score top tens. And often times the top 3 in the B or amateur class are nearly just as fast.
The advantage I would give to emx as far as being a premier feeder series, as they actually race more then a few times a year.
You bringing up emx was kinda irrelevant to the point I was making, but I don’t mind jumping around.
"What’s the US equivalent of EMX ? "
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True about the 2nd language. I speak a few it’s fun. Every week I speak a little Iroquoian a30k yr old language from here . Originally Ny. Ontario , Quebec & now Wi. Funny last week at 1 of there gas stations a 53 yr old woman asked me for my fed card nickname for Tribal id to skip the taxes . I said I need another 1/8 . I had a wife beater on she sees the tan. She^ Koli pronounced she^ goli the k is a g. Hellow . Ya^ ko , Ya^ go , thank you . Dada = 6. I get gas I say pump dada . They understand it’s there language. This is a pause between letters,^ . It’s just fun to speak a old language. My mom is from Holland 1902 to the 1940,s language is called low Dutch . It could be gone now I don’t think many speak it anymore.
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What’s the US equivalent of EMX ?
Ummmm I'd say it's the MXGP series.
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I was going to say last weekends 17th-40th plus a few cherry pickers from the top 15.....😂
How did the 25th to 35th European riders get there pro card here ? You need 60 points doing pro ams for American riders . Or 250 pro sport LL race. So now there’s American riders at 44th + & not getting in.
Not the "world championship" but AMA Nationals is definitely the premier motocross championship.
If MXGP and AMA is 1 and 2 lets rate them on these three things:
1: Tracks.... EASILY AMA
2: Riders..... AMA Jett Hunter Chase Tomac MXGP Lucas Gajser Herlings Febvre I give the nudge to AMA
3: Atmosphere.... AMA
One day MXGP might actually go back to the good tracks and then it will be closer, but as of now. No way.
Which GP tracks have you been to?
30k year old language 😂🤣🤣🤣😂. Sure thing hombre.
Tony said he would rather keep racing here than go race MXGP. Sorry it hurts your feelings but the us tracks and series is superior. You have some great racers in your series but if it wasn’t for SX more would be trying to find a way to get over here, it’s ok to admit it
Qatar. Netherlands on a road course :D what a joke.
The Indians where here tens of thousands of yrs ago. Decab,iL . Lost a 175 yr old court battle last year to a another Tribe that pushed out. IL. Forged there land deeds . All of Chicago Land same thing numerous land deeds where forged. Friendly advise don’t ever say hombre to a Indian on a reservation. Wayy tougher than any ghetto idiots
tht still doesn’t qualify the pro nationals as a world championship league / series, tht just means the pro nationals are just better at the moment
A lot of people on here won't want to hear this, but the American series is a bigger deal because of Supercross. That's what brings in the money, and that's why so many top Euros want to race here. Of course, it's kind of a double edged sword, because it's also the reason a lot of them don't end of coming over because they wait too long to develop their Supercross skills.
That being said, it's hard to beat the atmosphere of some the European GP's, but it's weighed down by the ones that have nothing going for it.
With ease.
You can choose to be an apologists for your countrymen if you want, but let me ask you this: If there was a historic common language across Europe, how many Europeans would choose to learn a second one? Its simply pragmatic for them, It's not worldly.
I think the real discussion isn't whether our (the AMA series) is the world championship (it's not) but rather why is MXGP such a shadow of what it once was. Tracks in countries around the world are and should be different and present riders with an array of challenges not to mention the travel, language barriers and just simple things like adapting to the food and cultures. If you watch F1 and Indycar they're both exciting but there's no question which one is the world championship and which one is a domestic series...it's not even close. And that's what MXGP should look and feel like. Marty Motes won plenty of races but we really remember him for the day at Carlsbad. Marty Smith won a boatload here in America but his campaign against Gaston made him a legend, and Deegan will be seen as a once in a lifetime rider but money and the diminishing status of the world championships will keep him from ever holding the title. The question isn't really about who races where, it's more about what can be done to create a true world championship.
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Hot take: Canadian Nationals are more enticing to watch, especially in person, than MXGP these days.
Two different series. Traveling within the contiguous 48 states isn’t anywhere comparable to traveling and acclimating between continents. It’d kill most Americans.
You're probably right on that. But I do think its messed up to say Stav Orland isn't 'world class' (whatever that means) because he scored points, when he's regularly beating Jack Chambers and others that have scored many many GP points.
Yeah, bad examples. Get yourself to one of the good ones and I think you'll change your opinion, especially the atmosphere one. I'd also argue the riders one too, but I only have the nations to go on and only one of the US riders you listed rode and he went 2 - 3 both times losing to Gajser.
Awesome, if geographic size is the standard, then the Aussie series just had a huge jump in status!
But does all those foreign places even matter? They got no BBQ, no Tacobell, no PBR..
I reckon if it weren't for supercross MXGP would be in even more dire straits. I reckon the difficulty of learning SX keeps a lot of top tier GP riders from moving to the states. Generally they need to come over as young as possible before it gets too difficult. Prado is the exception (and leaving aside his present difficulties, we've yet to see how he'll do indoors). If the US just had the outdoors series I don't see any reason why the top Euros would stay in Europe. Worse money, worse tracks, worse practice and training facilities.
It seems MXGP is determined to screw itself up. For example, with its overseas races they're based on going to wherever the local government is willing to pay the most. For example, the new Aus MXGP round is going to Darwin. It's the least populated part of Australia by a large margin and, as far as I know, has little to no MX scene or community.
Lets not act like they are constantly crossing the globe.
From the looks of it they do a fly away at the beginning and few at the end. The rest are all pretty close, especially by US standards. We have guys flying 3 time zones to race every weekend, most of Europe is in a single time zone.
Different countries, sure. Globetrotters on extreme travel schdules.....no.
Is the Olympics a world championship, only held in one country?
The track and field world championships are held ONLY in Tokyo this year?
The winner of the UCI Road World Championships Elite Men's Road Race is considered a world champion, even though that race is only held in one country...
How/Why are those considered world championships when they don't compete all over the world, and the athletes don't have to contend with jet lag, different food, passport and visa issues, different cultures etc.?
They are world championships because athletes from all over the world compete in them...where an event is held is of lesser import than where the athletes competing in the event are from...
Really few sports can claim to be a world championship, and further, probably only the Olympics is deserving of that. The fact MXGP races across the globe, does not make it world championship, it does not have competitive riders from most of these far away places. MXGP is just as regional as the AMA, since majority of its riders are European. Probably not popular opinion, but whatever...
It may be hard for an American to understand, but Europe is as large geographically as all of USA.
Idk why we get all hung up on if it’s in USA or the “world” the MXGP championship leaves Europe three times over twenty rounds. When ever you ask riders about differences they always say here vs Europe. Americans have a very American centric outlook as do Europeans. The MXGP is basically the European motocross champ ship and has been this way for nearly its entire history.
The talent of competitors is far more important then talking about the three times it leaves Europe. Injuries make or break a season weather it’s in the AMA series or MXGP.
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