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I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics...

I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics to be boring again! Not everything needs to have a WWF version of it. 

This is politics son, that’s how it works!

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It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go...

It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go back very far to see it. Here’s an example 

But in the modern RNC John McCain is a pariah.  

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This is politics son, that’s how it works!

MPJC wrote:
It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go...

It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go back very far to see it. Here’s an example 

But in the modern RNC John McCain is a pariah.  

Not really the point at all. 

The point is two people can disagree and be respectful about it. Leading from the front. 

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MPJC wrote:
It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go...

It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go back very far to see it. Here’s an example 

But in the modern RNC John McCain is a pariah.  

soggy wrote:

Not really the point at all. 

The point is two people can disagree and be respectful about it. Leading from the front. 

I got that.  And agree.  But that doesn’t seem to be what people want anymore.  This kind of discourse went out with Obama and John Boehner.  Didn’t mean to conflate, apologies.  

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byke wrote:
I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics...

I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics to be boring again! Not everything needs to have a WWF version of it. 

truck wrote:
When was that? Before cable TV? Reagan was a movie star. Clinton went on TV and played his saxophone. Bush was the guy you'd rather have...

When was that? Before cable TV? Reagan was a movie star. Clinton went on TV and played his saxophone. Bush was the guy you'd rather have a beer with. Obama was entirely unqualified and got elected with speeches that gave people warm and fuzzy feelings at big rallies. Not sure a presidential election in my lifetime has been about substance. 

I do believe you're right about trump's success being driven mostly by dem hate. If they just laughed him off and paid no attention to him the first time he got out of office I don't believe he would have won a second time. 

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I don’t want to speak for Byke. But I think what we are hoping for is going back to some level of decorum over the current...

I don’t want to speak for Byke. But I think what we are hoping for is going back to some level of decorum over the current shit slinging from both sides. Hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube though. 

I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what we would get. Instead we get rage filled division and views on policy are all validated by emotion and not an actual understanding of the issues. Talking policy is for losers and my emotion is more important than your knowledge on the issue. 

We did this, not politicians. We're the ones that decided you can't talk about politics in polite company or congregate with people who don't agree with each other. I mostly blame social media for this. 30 years ago communities hung out together and even if you had strong feelings about certain issues nobody would regularly voice them to the entire community. People were physically present with each other all of the time and that's really the only way people interacted, so our interactions were nearly always civil. So much of that has been replaced by online community where that natural pressure to be civil doesn't exist. Now we see all of our neighbors political rants online and find it very easy to dislike them over this view or that. We see a side of them that we never did in the past. Politicians are just responding to that, giving us what we want. We'll get better politicians when we're better. It won't happen as long as people are living on algorithm driven social media. 

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byke wrote:
I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics...

I definitely do not question a strong degree of truth to that, it's just not what I want. I don't want another celebrity. I want politics to be boring again! Not everything needs to have a WWF version of it. 

This is politics son, that’s how it works!

MPJC wrote:
It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go...

It’s not the way it’s always been so it’s not the way it has to.be. There used to be civility and you don’t have to go back very far to see it. Here’s an example 

I agree, IMO , there’s no respect for the office anymore. Used to be that the press somewhat protected the president so as not to put whomever was in there in a bad light. 

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truck wrote:
I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what...

I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what we would get. Instead we get rage filled division and views on policy are all validated by emotion and not an actual understanding of the issues. Talking policy is for losers and my emotion is more important than your knowledge on the issue. 

We did this, not politicians. We're the ones that decided you can't talk about politics in polite company or congregate with people who don't agree with each other. I mostly blame social media for this. 30 years ago communities hung out together and even if you had strong feelings about certain issues nobody would regularly voice them to the entire community. People were physically present with each other all of the time and that's really the only way people interacted, so our interactions were nearly always civil. So much of that has been replaced by online community where that natural pressure to be civil doesn't exist. Now we see all of our neighbors political rants online and find it very easy to dislike them over this view or that. We see a side of them that we never did in the past. Politicians are just responding to that, giving us what we want. We'll get better politicians when we're better. It won't happen as long as people are living on algorithm driven social media. 

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truck wrote:
I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what...

I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what we would get. Instead we get rage filled division and views on policy are all validated by emotion and not an actual understanding of the issues. Talking policy is for losers and my emotion is more important than your knowledge on the issue. 

We did this, not politicians. We're the ones that decided you can't talk about politics in polite company or congregate with people who don't agree with each other. I mostly blame social media for this. 30 years ago communities hung out together and even if you had strong feelings about certain issues nobody would regularly voice them to the entire community. People were physically present with each other all of the time and that's really the only way people interacted, so our interactions were nearly always civil. So much of that has been replaced by online community where that natural pressure to be civil doesn't exist. Now we see all of our neighbors political rants online and find it very easy to dislike them over this view or that. We see a side of them that we never did in the past. Politicians are just responding to that, giving us what we want. We'll get better politicians when we're better. It won't happen as long as people are living on algorithm driven social media. 

JAFO92 wrote:

Lol thanks, hadn't seen that one before

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truck wrote:
I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what...

I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what we would get. Instead we get rage filled division and views on policy are all validated by emotion and not an actual understanding of the issues. Talking policy is for losers and my emotion is more important than your knowledge on the issue. 

We did this, not politicians. We're the ones that decided you can't talk about politics in polite company or congregate with people who don't agree with each other. I mostly blame social media for this. 30 years ago communities hung out together and even if you had strong feelings about certain issues nobody would regularly voice them to the entire community. People were physically present with each other all of the time and that's really the only way people interacted, so our interactions were nearly always civil. So much of that has been replaced by online community where that natural pressure to be civil doesn't exist. Now we see all of our neighbors political rants online and find it very easy to dislike them over this view or that. We see a side of them that we never did in the past. Politicians are just responding to that, giving us what we want. We'll get better politicians when we're better. It won't happen as long as people are living on algorithm driven social media. 

JAFO92 wrote:
truck wrote:

Lol thanks, hadn't seen that one before

That George Carlin bit was exactly what I thought of when I read your post.  

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truck wrote:
I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what...

I agree, that would be great, but I don't place the blame on the politicians. If enough people wanted respectful discourse and policy debates that's what we would get. Instead we get rage filled division and views on policy are all validated by emotion and not an actual understanding of the issues. Talking policy is for losers and my emotion is more important than your knowledge on the issue. 

We did this, not politicians. We're the ones that decided you can't talk about politics in polite company or congregate with people who don't agree with each other. I mostly blame social media for this. 30 years ago communities hung out together and even if you had strong feelings about certain issues nobody would regularly voice them to the entire community. People were physically present with each other all of the time and that's really the only way people interacted, so our interactions were nearly always civil. So much of that has been replaced by online community where that natural pressure to be civil doesn't exist. Now we see all of our neighbors political rants online and find it very easy to dislike them over this view or that. We see a side of them that we never did in the past. Politicians are just responding to that, giving us what we want. We'll get better politicians when we're better. It won't happen as long as people are living on algorithm driven social media. 

Yea I think you hit the nail on the head. The only distinction I’d make is that I think we know this is bad for us as a whole but we’ve conflated politics with entertainment. They used to be separate. Now we treat politics like a reality show even though we know it’s bad for us.  Up until trump (at least in my lifetime) politicians largely stayed away from this type of discourse. 

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I’d be interested to see if there are any studies out there that deal with inmates who unalived themselves while waiting to go on trial for cases that the prosecution has zero evidence for.  I mean, there’s got to be some kind of trend, right?

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Too funny, LB you crack me up.

What’s funny about fucking kids “Luke”?
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Too funny, LB you crack me up.

LungButter wrote:
What’s funny about fucking kids “Luke”?

Calm down, you are holding on too tight.

You need some time away from non-moto

Thank you

Luke.

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I know. I’m just reading the tea leaves. I know it’s not constitutional but we are already seeing violations of that it seems. I’m not saying...

I know. I’m just reading the tea leaves. I know it’s not constitutional but we are already seeing violations of that it seems. I’m not saying he’ll be successful in getting the nomination again but he is going to try. 

You don’t really believe that do you? 😂

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I remember him saying in march he wouldn’t rule it out. Apparently in May he told NBC he won’t. So hand up I might be wrong. He...

I remember him saying in march he wouldn’t rule it out. Apparently in May he told NBC he won’t. So hand up I might be wrong. 

He also said he didn’t know what project 2025 was so I won’t rule anything out. 

We've discussed this before. Trump transitions and identifies as a woman. Then gets elected for 2 more terms as Donna Trump. (It'd be 2 different people correct ?, isn't that the rules ? Bruce Jenner disappeared when Caitlin showed up right ?) We get 8 more years of MAGA and he, sorry, she,  can add "First Woman President" on the resume'.  Wins all the way around. DONNA TRUMP 28 & 32 ! 

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Calm down, you are holding on too tight.

You need some time away from non-moto

Thank you

Luke.

It’s wild how arrogant you are. Something tells me you don’t run your mouth so much in real life.
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You don’t really believe that do you? 😂

soggy wrote:
I remember him saying in march he wouldn’t rule it out. Apparently in May he told NBC he won’t. So hand up I might be wrong. He...

I remember him saying in march he wouldn’t rule it out. Apparently in May he told NBC he won’t. So hand up I might be wrong. 

He also said he didn’t know what project 2025 was so I won’t rule anything out. 

sumdood wrote:
We've discussed this before. Trump transitions and identifies as a woman. Then gets elected for 2 more terms as Donna Trump. (It'd be 2 different people...

We've discussed this before. Trump transitions and identifies as a woman. Then gets elected for 2 more terms as Donna Trump. (It'd be 2 different people correct ?, isn't that the rules ? Bruce Jenner disappeared when Caitlin showed up right ?) We get 8 more years of MAGA and he, sorry, she,  can add "First Woman President" on the resume'.  Wins all the way around. DONNA TRUMP 28 & 32 ! 

He doesn't need to be elected again, nobody has to vote again...

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I may have to retract my statement on Bongino if he resigns.

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Reports are Patel also considering retirement.   

Trouble in River City and I don’t think it’s a pool hall. 

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Calm down, you are holding on too tight.

You need some time away from non-moto

Thank you

Luke.

LungButter wrote:
It’s wild how arrogant you are. Something tells me you don’t run your mouth so much in real life.

You would be wrong. I'm the same. And I am not "running my mouth", you take pleasure in being the "hall monitor" in here?

Give me a few demerits and be on your way.

Thank you

Luke

 

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You would be wrong. I'm the same. And I am not "running my mouth", you take pleasure in being the "hall monitor" in here?Give me a...

You would be wrong. I'm the same. And I am not "running my mouth", you take pleasure in being the "hall monitor" in here?

Give me a few demerits and be on your way.

Thank you

Luke

 

Me pointing out your arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy and worship of Trump is being a hall monitor? You’re an idiot. I hope you haven’t bred.
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You would be wrong. I'm the same. And I am not "running my mouth", you take pleasure in being the "hall monitor" in here?Give me a...

You would be wrong. I'm the same. And I am not "running my mouth", you take pleasure in being the "hall monitor" in here?

Give me a few demerits and be on your way.

Thank you

Luke

 

LungButter wrote:
Me pointing out your arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy and worship of Trump is being a hall monitor? You’re an idiot. I hope you haven’t bred.

You think very highly of yourself, keep handing out demerits to us if that lets you sleep at night.

I got a big laugh at the Trump worship comment. LB don't ever change, my friend.

Luke

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You think very highly of yourself, keep handing out demerits to us if that lets you sleep at night.I got a big laugh at the Trump...

You think very highly of yourself, keep handing out demerits to us if that lets you sleep at night.

I got a big laugh at the Trump worship comment. LB don't ever change, my friend.

Luke

I love how you ain’t man enough to own it and you think everyone else is too dumb to see it. It’s blatantly obvious you want your face fucked by big Daddy Donald and your entire life is based on what he tells you to think. You should change “Luke”. People like you are fucking ruining America. I said it little boy. Blind followers like you on both sides of the aisle are killing this country. Y’all idiots should e fucking ashamed.
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You think very highly of yourself, keep handing out demerits to us if that lets you sleep at night.I got a big laugh at the Trump...

You think very highly of yourself, keep handing out demerits to us if that lets you sleep at night.

I got a big laugh at the Trump worship comment. LB don't ever change, my friend.

Luke

LungButter wrote:
I love how you ain’t man enough to own it and you think everyone else is too dumb to see it. It’s blatantly obvious you want...
I love how you ain’t man enough to own it and you think everyone else is too dumb to see it. It’s blatantly obvious you want your face fucked by big Daddy Donald and your entire life is based on what he tells you to think. You should change “Luke”. People like you are fucking ruining America. I said it little boy. Blind followers like you on both sides of the aisle are killing this country. Y’all idiots should e fucking ashamed.

You seem to be a tad unhinged. Take a few days off from non-moto, you are making no sense, my friend.

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You seem to be a tad unhinged. Take a few days off from non-moto, you are making no sense, my friend.

Sounds good "Luke"....

Catch ya in a few days when your still here just throwing out insults to anyone who doesn't fantasize about getting face fucked by Trump like you do.

 

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Too funny the silence of the normal MAGA crowd in here. When will you guys figure out the man you follow is a massive piece of shit?

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You seem to be a tad unhinged. Take a few days off from non-moto, you are making no sense, my friend.

LungButter wrote:
Sounds good "Luke"....Catch ya in a few days when your still here just throwing out insults to anyone who doesn't fantasize about getting face fucked by...

Sounds good "Luke"....

Catch ya in a few days when your still here just throwing out insults to anyone who doesn't fantasize about getting face fucked by Trump like you do.

 

Whatever works for you.

Insults? Who me?

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Too funny the silence of the normal MAGA crowd in here. When will you guys figure out the man you follow is a massive piece of...

Too funny the silence of the normal MAGA crowd in here. When will you guys figure out the man you follow is a massive piece of shit?

How does this have to do with President Trump?

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Too funny the silence of the normal MAGA crowd in here. When will you guys figure out the man you follow is a massive piece of...

Too funny the silence of the normal MAGA crowd in here. When will you guys figure out the man you follow is a massive piece of shit?

Who would you like to see as president?

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Trump shut it down and Pam is the fall guy. 

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