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My amateur take on the track is the inside lines did not get rough enough for the outside lines to be any quicker. Example at the end of 250 moto 2 with Levi and Mossiman. You'd have to really cut people off in the turns.

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6/29/2025 8:38am

Does anybody know which rider the red cross flag was out for in 450's? He looked to be down for 4 or so laps.

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Dude has been melting down ever since Jett moved to a 450 for sx. Most of his posts are crying about the Lawrence's. Can we get...

Dude has been melting down ever since Jett moved to a 450 for sx. Most of his posts are crying about the Lawrence's. Can we get a wellness check on Magoofan? 😂 

Speaking of that, the guy was annoying at times but I hope he is ok. I've been wondering about him for a bit now.

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Red Cross flag for 10 minutes lol 

Was that Harrington or Pape down? Any work on how the rider is?

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mtbkris2 wrote:

First time I’ve fallen asleep in the middle of an outdoors race 

Try some smelling salts and ride the track so you will see what it’s like how gnarly it is.

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Tumic wrote:
Tomac is facing a new level of competition with first Sexton in 2022 and now Jett (and to be fair Hunter). Looking at the points standing...

Tomac is facing a new level of competition with first Sexton in 2022 and now Jett (and to be fair Hunter). Looking at the points standing the talk will soon be between Hunter and Eli about second place, not Eli and Jett for the title.


My point is that he is now racing guys with a high level of fitness that ride the motorcycle more efficiently than what he does.

So how is he gonna beat them by wasting more energy than them and riding even more aggressive?. He could get away with it against his old competitors but things has changed. 

Look at it as MC could not get away with his talent when RC changed the game of training in the sport. Now Eli struggle to get away with being the fittest rider on track when he races someone that rides the bike better.

Moto Braap wrote:
I am not so quick to go along with the RC fitness revolution.  He was out of shape and just got fit during a time when...

I am not so quick to go along with the RC fitness revolution.  He was out of shape and just got fit during a time when others weren’t as aggressive with training either but if you look back at other riders like in the late 70’s and 80’s they put a lot of emphasis on training.  Certain 90’s riders were fit but they weren’t known for major training.  I will give RC credit for maxing out his potential with a program and trainer but there were plenty of training fitness fanatics before him.  Not everyone had the winning at all costs like RC and Stew but if you go back to Hannah or the current trainer for the Lawrences Omara who used to race/train and train RC it’s just finding the right package.  They say Tomac does his own thing but if he rode with the Lawrences or used their proven staff like Omara he might share their edge.  Baker used to be the guy but now he’s not with Omara and trains multiple riders instead of investing in one like he did with RC.  Deegan has the money to hire trainers and experts we may not know about.  He goes to various tracks when Tomac mainly rides his own track which may limit him during the week.  Deegan will go anywhere or do anything attitude kind of like RC.  If Tomac wants a little bit extra it would probably involve more entourage staff, some more diversity, or riding more with others.  Deegan is a little like Tomac where he finds speed with effort not always smooth or pretty and he practiced with Tomac a little bit.

Tumic wrote:
Yes, RC was chubby and out of shape in his 125 days, but he was the first to take it to the extreme level of training...

Yes, RC was chubby and out of shape in his 125 days, but he was the first to take it to the extreme level of training and diet with Aldon.


Others before him have always trained but not on the same way as was introduced to the sport by Aldon. Now 25+ years later in to the sport Aldons program is well known and every competitive rider knows what level they need to train on to get there.


MC raised the bar for the riding in the 90’s, RC matched that with off the bike fitness. Along came JS with both fitness and unseen talent on the bike, but always riding over his head on the big bikes.

Then for a couple of years the racing was all about how hard and aggressive you could ride without fading and RV/Tomac was the best of it.

Enter the next generation of riders in the sport with Ken, Sexton, Hunter, And Jett that races in a completely different way that you now have to look at the track at a completely different way if you want to beat them over a whole series. They have the fitness of the previous fittest, they got the bike skills of the previous best but they ride/race smarter and more efficient than previous riders on US soil.

Regarding Deegan: He have cleaned up his riding massively from his first pro days and continues to do so. You can see that he is adapting to the new era of technique and riding style because he knows what he is up against within a year. 

And that is smart because had he just continued to ride in the same way as he did when he turned pro he would not have a chance against the top 450 guys when he moves up, but for each race he does now I’m getting more and more confident that he will be up there with them. 


I applaud Eli for saying that he needs to go home and get better, because it’s the truth. He got the start in the second moto and was up there with them but got gapped pretty fast. If you look at Tomac’s normal default when trying to pass a guy he always goes for a outside berm and tries to go twice as fast around the rider on the outside, but that is rarely working now days because he don’t have the speed advantage over those guys like he had against his competition in his younger days.

So now he needs to find new ways to ride smarter around the track, waste less energy and pass in other ways than what is his normal default mode. Otherwise we will continue to hear that he get stuck behind these riders for the rest of the season.

Are you surprised Deegan was able to clean up   stupid little crashes.  It’s a small club of riders who go fast and don’t crash much but is becoming more common with technology.  Little mental mistakes aren’t as easy to fix with bike setup.

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Moto Braap wrote:
I am not so quick to go along with the RC fitness revolution.  He was out of shape and just got fit during a time when...

I am not so quick to go along with the RC fitness revolution.  He was out of shape and just got fit during a time when others weren’t as aggressive with training either but if you look back at other riders like in the late 70’s and 80’s they put a lot of emphasis on training.  Certain 90’s riders were fit but they weren’t known for major training.  I will give RC credit for maxing out his potential with a program and trainer but there were plenty of training fitness fanatics before him.  Not everyone had the winning at all costs like RC and Stew but if you go back to Hannah or the current trainer for the Lawrences Omara who used to race/train and train RC it’s just finding the right package.  They say Tomac does his own thing but if he rode with the Lawrences or used their proven staff like Omara he might share their edge.  Baker used to be the guy but now he’s not with Omara and trains multiple riders instead of investing in one like he did with RC.  Deegan has the money to hire trainers and experts we may not know about.  He goes to various tracks when Tomac mainly rides his own track which may limit him during the week.  Deegan will go anywhere or do anything attitude kind of like RC.  If Tomac wants a little bit extra it would probably involve more entourage staff, some more diversity, or riding more with others.  Deegan is a little like Tomac where he finds speed with effort not always smooth or pretty and he practiced with Tomac a little bit.

Tumic wrote:
Yes, RC was chubby and out of shape in his 125 days, but he was the first to take it to the extreme level of training...

Yes, RC was chubby and out of shape in his 125 days, but he was the first to take it to the extreme level of training and diet with Aldon.


Others before him have always trained but not on the same way as was introduced to the sport by Aldon. Now 25+ years later in to the sport Aldons program is well known and every competitive rider knows what level they need to train on to get there.


MC raised the bar for the riding in the 90’s, RC matched that with off the bike fitness. Along came JS with both fitness and unseen talent on the bike, but always riding over his head on the big bikes.

Then for a couple of years the racing was all about how hard and aggressive you could ride without fading and RV/Tomac was the best of it.

Enter the next generation of riders in the sport with Ken, Sexton, Hunter, And Jett that races in a completely different way that you now have to look at the track at a completely different way if you want to beat them over a whole series. They have the fitness of the previous fittest, they got the bike skills of the previous best but they ride/race smarter and more efficient than previous riders on US soil.

Regarding Deegan: He have cleaned up his riding massively from his first pro days and continues to do so. You can see that he is adapting to the new era of technique and riding style because he knows what he is up against within a year. 

And that is smart because had he just continued to ride in the same way as he did when he turned pro he would not have a chance against the top 450 guys when he moves up, but for each race he does now I’m getting more and more confident that he will be up there with them. 


I applaud Eli for saying that he needs to go home and get better, because it’s the truth. He got the start in the second moto and was up there with them but got gapped pretty fast. If you look at Tomac’s normal default when trying to pass a guy he always goes for a outside berm and tries to go twice as fast around the rider on the outside, but that is rarely working now days because he don’t have the speed advantage over those guys like he had against his competition in his younger days.

So now he needs to find new ways to ride smarter around the track, waste less energy and pass in other ways than what is his normal default mode. Otherwise we will continue to hear that he get stuck behind these riders for the rest of the season.

Moto Braap wrote:
Are you surprised Deegan was able to clean up   stupid little crashes.  It’s a small club of riders who go fast and don’t crash much...

Are you surprised Deegan was able to clean up   stupid little crashes.  It’s a small club of riders who go fast and don’t crash much but is becoming more common with technology.  Little mental mistakes aren’t as easy to fix with bike setup.

Im not talking about his crashes, im talking about his riding style and technique..

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6/29/2025 4:54pm

Does anybody know which rider the red cross flag was out for in 450's? He looked to be down for 4 or so laps.

Jason Brooks 534

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6/29/2025 5:00pm

Does anybody know which rider the red cross flag was out for in 450's? He looked to be down for 4 or so laps.

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Jason Brooks 534

Oh shit, I hope he's ok. Local guy who just does it for fun here and there. He's a lineman for the power company 

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Look what I saw today [url=https://postimg.cc/LJy9Jhgk][img]https://i.postimg.cc/rpTKYr8H/IMG-2948.jpg[/img][/url]

Look what I saw today


 

Some guys on here will look at this and say “I wish bikes still looked like that!”

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Oh shit, I hope he's ok. Local guy who just does it for fun here and there. He's a lineman for the power company 

I know of him from racing NESC. Was impressed with him qualifying. Sounds like he will be ok though from his FB post. 

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PRM31 wrote:
Going to be a long few years for all but Jett fans. Just catching up watching races. Jett makes it look so easy. So smoooth! Eli’s bike does...

Going to be a long few years for all but Jett fans. 

Just catching up watching races. Jett makes it look so easy. So smoooth! 

Eli’s bike does not look good to me (I know nothing…). The rear end looks like a pogo stick and the bike pivots front to back a lot. The back of Jett’s bike looks numb in comparison. The fender just sits there and the tire does all the moving and the bike stays much more level on average.

Yup they have fixed the rear swapping side to side, by the looks so far 

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I never expected cowboys in Ohio but it’s true.  I went to school with some people from farther up north into Canada that are huge country...

I never expected cowboys in Ohio but it’s true.  I went to school with some people from farther up north into Canada that are huge country fans and red necks.

Most of Ohio is rural farms and livestock. Lexington, Kentucky isn’t that far from Cincinnati and Kentucky is horse country.  Ohio is more about riding horses...

Most of Ohio is rural farms and livestock. Lexington, Kentucky isn’t that far from Cincinnati and Kentucky is horse country.  

Ohio is more about riding horses, competing in dressage, hunter jumper, etc not roping cows like in Texas.  

Moto Braap wrote:

I got a friend that dedicated her career to horses and she’s in Ohio.

You don’t have to manage cows to be a cowboy it’s about riding:

“A cowboy is traditionally a person often associated with the American west who works in cattle and rides horses”

The horse riding part makes AP a dirt bike horse rider with a 450 dirt bikes about 60 horse power.

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6/30/2025 12:47am Edited Date/Time 6/30/2025 12:54am
mtbkris2 wrote:

First time I’ve fallen asleep in the middle of an outdoors race 

I feel asleep during on of the motos this year, i forget which one, but I’m surprised I didn’t fall asleep during 450’s in 2023.

I just watched the full races.  Great camera work.  Riders flying and sometimes crashing the ultimate test.  I could even hear the bikes roar.  No complaints.  You aint a fan if you got any issues watching.  Switch to golf.  I love supercross but that beat vs cookie cutter whoops, triples, and rhythms with tuff block incidents.

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Key Highlights

Jett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is the real eye-opener: 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was another 0.5 seconds quicker than Tomac. Moto 2? More of the same.

Consistency Kings: Across both classes, only three riders managed to score 90 or higher in both motos. Hunter Lawrence, Harri Kullas, and Mikkel Haarup. All three are former MXGP riders.

450 Analysis

Jett Lawrence didn’t look like himself this past weekend, but not in the way you might expect. His margin of victory tells the story best: 13.8 seconds in Moto 1, 20.2 seconds in Moto 2. For a rider who typically manages a 3–5 second cushion throughout a race, Lawrence laid down a statement ride. James Stewart called it Jett's best ride of his 450 career. So now we’re left asking: at this point in the season, who’s going to challenge Jett? He’s yet to lose an overall, and we’re nearly halfway through the season. 

Track Breakdown:

The track map above shows who clocked the fastest average sector times in each moto. 

And yeah, this one’s all Jett. Still, there was one small “weakness” in Sector 3. While the map highlights average times, if you look at the fastest single laps, Jett owned every sector across both motos, except S3. Hunter Lawrence was fastest there in Moto 1, and Eli Tomac took it in Moto 2.

Even then, Jett was only losing fractions when looking at the average time, 0.08 seconds to Hunter in Moto 1. So “weakness” might be a stretch.

But here's the bigger point: out of 39 other riders on track, only Hunter managed to claim a single sector outside of Jett across both motos. That tells you everything you need to know. Jett is as close to untouchable as it gets in Pro Motocross right now. And I don't even think Jett's reached his prime yet. He is only 21. 

Elsewhere, regardless of who you look at, Southwick was a war. Between changing lines, blown-out berms, and the sheer physical toll of racing 30+ minutes in deep sand, consistency scores took a dive. No one part of the track stood out as the toughest. It was all brutal. The entire place is a gauntlet.


450 Moto 1:

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450 Moto 2:

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Lap Time Breakdown:

The histogram above highlights two key facts. First, Moto 1 was faster. But even then, it was sluggish compared to qualifying laps, which teetered right around the 2:00 mark. Second, and more interesting, is how widely spread the lap times were. Typically, we see most lap times fall within a 10-second window from the top 10% to the bottom 10%. Not here. At Southwick, lap times easily stretched across 20–25 seconds for the field.

Moto 1 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 10
H. Lawrence: 2
Tomac, Plessinger, Prado: 1

Class Average Consistency: 68.0
Class Median Consistency: 82.0

Moto 2 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 11
H. Lawrence: 3
Tomac: 1

Class Average Consistency: 62.3
Class Median Consistency: 76.5

450 Moto 1 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

What can we say? Jett owned every stat here. It wasn’t particularly close, either. But his top lap time from Moto 1 is the real eye-opener. 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was, in turn, another 0.5 seconds faster than Tomac. At what point do we start to feel bad for Hunter? If it weren’t for his pesky brother, he’d be locked in a neck-and-neck battle with 4x champ Eli Tomac, and likely have multiple overall wins. Instead, Hunter is still searching for his first overall after putting together one of his best performances of the season.

We also need to talk about Jorge Prado. Unfortunately, I walked away with more questions than answers. Sure, he was finally running near the front and looking more like himself. But was that just comfort in the sand? Or did the weekend off actually give him and Kawasaki the reset they needed? Either way, it sounds like Prado is more frustrated than confident.

"I mean, I'm a sand rider and I finished P5 today. It's a track where I should be winning, and I know I would win with different stuff. So yeah, we just need to keep working." - Jorge Prado on his performance at Southwick. 

RedBud should hopefully clear a few things up.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Two guys really stand out when it comes to consistency, but only one of them is expected. First, Hunter Lawrence. The guy is a machine when it comes to laying down laps. You can always count on him to be near the top. But R.J. Hampshire? A pleasant surprise. Especially after Moto 1, where he charged from nearly last place. R.J. is finding his stride on the 450 and gaining confidence. He might just be a consistent Top 5 threat for the rest of the season.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Yeah... Jett was untouchable. Worth noting here: his fastest lap in both motos was quicker than anyone else’s Lap 99.

450 Moto 2 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

Once again, Jett sat on top. But take a look at Hunter Lawrence. His median lap time was 1.4 seconds better than Tomac’s. Sure, Jett was another 1.2 seconds faster than Hunter, but still, Hunter is quietly having a stellar sophomore season. Living in Jett’s shadow might be discouraging, but make no mistake: the guy is a stud.
 

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Just as impressive is Hunter’s consistency. Only two riders managed to score above 90 in both motos: Hunter and Harri Kullas. Speaking of Kullas, he’s not having the explosive season we saw from him last year, but the veteran from Estonia still laid down some fantastic laps in the sand.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Looking at Lap 99 times, Hunter and Tomac are nearly identical. But when you compare their fastest laps from Moto 2, Tomac’s is over half a second quicker than Hunter’s. This is where Hunter still struggles. He just doesn’t have that sprint pace in the opening laps. While he finds his speed and settles into a rhythm over 30 minutes, he's losing valuable time early on, particularly to Jett.

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Key HighlightsJett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is...

Key Highlights

Jett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is the real eye-opener: 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was another 0.5 seconds quicker than Tomac. Moto 2? More of the same.

Consistency Kings: Across both classes, only three riders managed to score 90 or higher in both motos. Hunter Lawrence, Harri Kullas, and Mikkel Haarup. All three are former MXGP riders.

450 Analysis

Jett Lawrence didn’t look like himself this past weekend, but not in the way you might expect. His margin of victory tells the story best: 13.8 seconds in Moto 1, 20.2 seconds in Moto 2. For a rider who typically manages a 3–5 second cushion throughout a race, Lawrence laid down a statement ride. James Stewart called it Jett's best ride of his 450 career. So now we’re left asking: at this point in the season, who’s going to challenge Jett? He’s yet to lose an overall, and we’re nearly halfway through the season. 

Track Breakdown:

The track map above shows who clocked the fastest average sector times in each moto. 

And yeah, this one’s all Jett. Still, there was one small “weakness” in Sector 3. While the map highlights average times, if you look at the fastest single laps, Jett owned every sector across both motos, except S3. Hunter Lawrence was fastest there in Moto 1, and Eli Tomac took it in Moto 2.

Even then, Jett was only losing fractions when looking at the average time, 0.08 seconds to Hunter in Moto 1. So “weakness” might be a stretch.

But here's the bigger point: out of 39 other riders on track, only Hunter managed to claim a single sector outside of Jett across both motos. That tells you everything you need to know. Jett is as close to untouchable as it gets in Pro Motocross right now. And I don't even think Jett's reached his prime yet. He is only 21. 

Elsewhere, regardless of who you look at, Southwick was a war. Between changing lines, blown-out berms, and the sheer physical toll of racing 30+ minutes in deep sand, consistency scores took a dive. No one part of the track stood out as the toughest. It was all brutal. The entire place is a gauntlet.


450 Moto 1:

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450 Moto 2:

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Lap Time Breakdown:

The histogram above highlights two key facts. First, Moto 1 was faster. But even then, it was sluggish compared to qualifying laps, which teetered right around the 2:00 mark. Second, and more interesting, is how widely spread the lap times were. Typically, we see most lap times fall within a 10-second window from the top 10% to the bottom 10%. Not here. At Southwick, lap times easily stretched across 20–25 seconds for the field.

Moto 1 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 10
H. Lawrence: 2
Tomac, Plessinger, Prado: 1

Class Average Consistency: 68.0
Class Median Consistency: 82.0

Moto 2 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 11
H. Lawrence: 3
Tomac: 1

Class Average Consistency: 62.3
Class Median Consistency: 76.5

450 Moto 1 Analysis

Screenshot %2877%29.png?VersionId=mcdIITdYpTYI6ODlKg

Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

What can we say? Jett owned every stat here. It wasn’t particularly close, either. But his top lap time from Moto 1 is the real eye-opener. 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was, in turn, another 0.5 seconds faster than Tomac. At what point do we start to feel bad for Hunter? If it weren’t for his pesky brother, he’d be locked in a neck-and-neck battle with 4x champ Eli Tomac, and likely have multiple overall wins. Instead, Hunter is still searching for his first overall after putting together one of his best performances of the season.

We also need to talk about Jorge Prado. Unfortunately, I walked away with more questions than answers. Sure, he was finally running near the front and looking more like himself. But was that just comfort in the sand? Or did the weekend off actually give him and Kawasaki the reset they needed? Either way, it sounds like Prado is more frustrated than confident.

"I mean, I'm a sand rider and I finished P5 today. It's a track where I should be winning, and I know I would win with different stuff. So yeah, we just need to keep working." - Jorge Prado on his performance at Southwick. 

RedBud should hopefully clear a few things up.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Two guys really stand out when it comes to consistency, but only one of them is expected. First, Hunter Lawrence. The guy is a machine when it comes to laying down laps. You can always count on him to be near the top. But R.J. Hampshire? A pleasant surprise. Especially after Moto 1, where he charged from nearly last place. R.J. is finding his stride on the 450 and gaining confidence. He might just be a consistent Top 5 threat for the rest of the season.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Yeah... Jett was untouchable. Worth noting here: his fastest lap in both motos was quicker than anyone else’s Lap 99.

450 Moto 2 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

Once again, Jett sat on top. But take a look at Hunter Lawrence. His median lap time was 1.4 seconds better than Tomac’s. Sure, Jett was another 1.2 seconds faster than Hunter, but still, Hunter is quietly having a stellar sophomore season. Living in Jett’s shadow might be discouraging, but make no mistake: the guy is a stud.
 

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Just as impressive is Hunter’s consistency. Only two riders managed to score above 90 in both motos: Hunter and Harri Kullas. Speaking of Kullas, he’s not having the explosive season we saw from him last year, but the veteran from Estonia still laid down some fantastic laps in the sand.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Looking at Lap 99 times, Hunter and Tomac are nearly identical. But when you compare their fastest laps from Moto 2, Tomac’s is over half a second quicker than Hunter’s. This is where Hunter still struggles. He just doesn’t have that sprint pace in the opening laps. While he finds his speed and settles into a rhythm over 30 minutes, he's losing valuable time early on, particularly to Jett.

These breakdowns are excellent. No matter what your bias, there’s no hiding from the facts in there.

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7/1/2025 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2025 12:37pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Key HighlightsJett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is...

Key Highlights

Jett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is the real eye-opener: 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was another 0.5 seconds quicker than Tomac. Moto 2? More of the same.

Consistency Kings: Across both classes, only three riders managed to score 90 or higher in both motos. Hunter Lawrence, Harri Kullas, and Mikkel Haarup. All three are former MXGP riders.

450 Analysis

Jett Lawrence didn’t look like himself this past weekend, but not in the way you might expect. His margin of victory tells the story best: 13.8 seconds in Moto 1, 20.2 seconds in Moto 2. For a rider who typically manages a 3–5 second cushion throughout a race, Lawrence laid down a statement ride. James Stewart called it Jett's best ride of his 450 career. So now we’re left asking: at this point in the season, who’s going to challenge Jett? He’s yet to lose an overall, and we’re nearly halfway through the season. 

Track Breakdown:

The track map above shows who clocked the fastest average sector times in each moto. 

And yeah, this one’s all Jett. Still, there was one small “weakness” in Sector 3. While the map highlights average times, if you look at the fastest single laps, Jett owned every sector across both motos, except S3. Hunter Lawrence was fastest there in Moto 1, and Eli Tomac took it in Moto 2.

Even then, Jett was only losing fractions when looking at the average time, 0.08 seconds to Hunter in Moto 1. So “weakness” might be a stretch.

But here's the bigger point: out of 39 other riders on track, only Hunter managed to claim a single sector outside of Jett across both motos. That tells you everything you need to know. Jett is as close to untouchable as it gets in Pro Motocross right now. And I don't even think Jett's reached his prime yet. He is only 21. 

Elsewhere, regardless of who you look at, Southwick was a war. Between changing lines, blown-out berms, and the sheer physical toll of racing 30+ minutes in deep sand, consistency scores took a dive. No one part of the track stood out as the toughest. It was all brutal. The entire place is a gauntlet.


450 Moto 1:

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450 Moto 2:

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Lap Time Breakdown:

The histogram above highlights two key facts. First, Moto 1 was faster. But even then, it was sluggish compared to qualifying laps, which teetered right around the 2:00 mark. Second, and more interesting, is how widely spread the lap times were. Typically, we see most lap times fall within a 10-second window from the top 10% to the bottom 10%. Not here. At Southwick, lap times easily stretched across 20–25 seconds for the field.

Moto 1 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 10
H. Lawrence: 2
Tomac, Plessinger, Prado: 1

Class Average Consistency: 68.0
Class Median Consistency: 82.0

Moto 2 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 11
H. Lawrence: 3
Tomac: 1

Class Average Consistency: 62.3
Class Median Consistency: 76.5

450 Moto 1 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

What can we say? Jett owned every stat here. It wasn’t particularly close, either. But his top lap time from Moto 1 is the real eye-opener. 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was, in turn, another 0.5 seconds faster than Tomac. At what point do we start to feel bad for Hunter? If it weren’t for his pesky brother, he’d be locked in a neck-and-neck battle with 4x champ Eli Tomac, and likely have multiple overall wins. Instead, Hunter is still searching for his first overall after putting together one of his best performances of the season.

We also need to talk about Jorge Prado. Unfortunately, I walked away with more questions than answers. Sure, he was finally running near the front and looking more like himself. But was that just comfort in the sand? Or did the weekend off actually give him and Kawasaki the reset they needed? Either way, it sounds like Prado is more frustrated than confident.

"I mean, I'm a sand rider and I finished P5 today. It's a track where I should be winning, and I know I would win with different stuff. So yeah, we just need to keep working." - Jorge Prado on his performance at Southwick. 

RedBud should hopefully clear a few things up.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Two guys really stand out when it comes to consistency, but only one of them is expected. First, Hunter Lawrence. The guy is a machine when it comes to laying down laps. You can always count on him to be near the top. But R.J. Hampshire? A pleasant surprise. Especially after Moto 1, where he charged from nearly last place. R.J. is finding his stride on the 450 and gaining confidence. He might just be a consistent Top 5 threat for the rest of the season.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Yeah... Jett was untouchable. Worth noting here: his fastest lap in both motos was quicker than anyone else’s Lap 99.

450 Moto 2 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

Once again, Jett sat on top. But take a look at Hunter Lawrence. His median lap time was 1.4 seconds better than Tomac’s. Sure, Jett was another 1.2 seconds faster than Hunter, but still, Hunter is quietly having a stellar sophomore season. Living in Jett’s shadow might be discouraging, but make no mistake: the guy is a stud.
 

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Just as impressive is Hunter’s consistency. Only two riders managed to score above 90 in both motos: Hunter and Harri Kullas. Speaking of Kullas, he’s not having the explosive season we saw from him last year, but the veteran from Estonia still laid down some fantastic laps in the sand.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Looking at Lap 99 times, Hunter and Tomac are nearly identical. But when you compare their fastest laps from Moto 2, Tomac’s is over half a second quicker than Hunter’s. This is where Hunter still struggles. He just doesn’t have that sprint pace in the opening laps. While he finds his speed and settles into a rhythm over 30 minutes, he's losing valuable time early on, particularly to Jett.

CPR wrote:

These breakdowns are excellent. No matter what your bias, there’s no hiding from the facts in there.

I was thinking that Hunter is riding well and may have something for Jett the way he passed Eli and gets a lot of good starts.  He may end up 2nd in points if he continues to start well and stay consistent with his laps but now I am not so sure if he can chase down Jett where people say we aren’t sure if Jett has extra afterburners just in case.  I didn’t realize the lap times were that different where sometimes the leader just creeps ahead with a clear track and lead but Jett lapped most of the field and now I learn he was fastest in all sections.

Southwick tends to be a little odd with performances and results stats but seeing Jett’s bike being completely dialed and Hunter running faster pace than Eli on a track that Tomac typically does well at shows me that the Lawrences will likely run 1 and 2 for the championship.  I forgot that they have Europe experience with sandy tracks that may not tell the full story for the rest of the season but I also easily forgot that Jett has won almost all of his 450 races since he had to take time off after a mx crash mid season.  

The question now is how Deegan will adapt to the 450 and if he can find or maintain the speed to run with Jett.  So far people had to take some chances and hang it out that hasn’t worked yet even to catch up or hold position.  There’s nothing Jett isn’t doing and Deegan has similarly cleaned up his riding so it’s more than just hype.  If Hunter can stay running 2 that may set the stage for some kind of action if Jett makes any kind of mistake.  A lot of podium riders get rewarded for consistency but Jett isn’t making mistakes to hold the points and lead.  Deegan is out to win not podium so he should make it interesting.

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7/1/2025 2:43pm
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Key HighlightsJett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is...

Key Highlights

Jett's Best Ever: Jett Lawrence owned every stat in both motos, and it wasn’t even close. But his top lap in Moto 1 is the real eye-opener: 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was another 0.5 seconds quicker than Tomac. Moto 2? More of the same.

Consistency Kings: Across both classes, only three riders managed to score 90 or higher in both motos. Hunter Lawrence, Harri Kullas, and Mikkel Haarup. All three are former MXGP riders.

450 Analysis

Jett Lawrence didn’t look like himself this past weekend, but not in the way you might expect. His margin of victory tells the story best: 13.8 seconds in Moto 1, 20.2 seconds in Moto 2. For a rider who typically manages a 3–5 second cushion throughout a race, Lawrence laid down a statement ride. James Stewart called it Jett's best ride of his 450 career. So now we’re left asking: at this point in the season, who’s going to challenge Jett? He’s yet to lose an overall, and we’re nearly halfway through the season. 

Track Breakdown:

The track map above shows who clocked the fastest average sector times in each moto. 

And yeah, this one’s all Jett. Still, there was one small “weakness” in Sector 3. While the map highlights average times, if you look at the fastest single laps, Jett owned every sector across both motos, except S3. Hunter Lawrence was fastest there in Moto 1, and Eli Tomac took it in Moto 2.

Even then, Jett was only losing fractions when looking at the average time, 0.08 seconds to Hunter in Moto 1. So “weakness” might be a stretch.

But here's the bigger point: out of 39 other riders on track, only Hunter managed to claim a single sector outside of Jett across both motos. That tells you everything you need to know. Jett is as close to untouchable as it gets in Pro Motocross right now. And I don't even think Jett's reached his prime yet. He is only 21. 

Elsewhere, regardless of who you look at, Southwick was a war. Between changing lines, blown-out berms, and the sheer physical toll of racing 30+ minutes in deep sand, consistency scores took a dive. No one part of the track stood out as the toughest. It was all brutal. The entire place is a gauntlet.


450 Moto 1:

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450 Moto 2:

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Lap Time Breakdown:

The histogram above highlights two key facts. First, Moto 1 was faster. But even then, it was sluggish compared to qualifying laps, which teetered right around the 2:00 mark. Second, and more interesting, is how widely spread the lap times were. Typically, we see most lap times fall within a 10-second window from the top 10% to the bottom 10%. Not here. At Southwick, lap times easily stretched across 20–25 seconds for the field.

Moto 1 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 10
H. Lawrence: 2
Tomac, Plessinger, Prado: 1

Class Average Consistency: 68.0
Class Median Consistency: 82.0

Moto 2 Fast Laps (15 Timed Laps)

J. Lawrence: 11
H. Lawrence: 3
Tomac: 1

Class Average Consistency: 62.3
Class Median Consistency: 76.5

450 Moto 1 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

What can we say? Jett owned every stat here. It wasn’t particularly close, either. But his top lap time from Moto 1 is the real eye-opener. 1.4 seconds faster than Hunter, who was, in turn, another 0.5 seconds faster than Tomac. At what point do we start to feel bad for Hunter? If it weren’t for his pesky brother, he’d be locked in a neck-and-neck battle with 4x champ Eli Tomac, and likely have multiple overall wins. Instead, Hunter is still searching for his first overall after putting together one of his best performances of the season.

We also need to talk about Jorge Prado. Unfortunately, I walked away with more questions than answers. Sure, he was finally running near the front and looking more like himself. But was that just comfort in the sand? Or did the weekend off actually give him and Kawasaki the reset they needed? Either way, it sounds like Prado is more frustrated than confident.

"I mean, I'm a sand rider and I finished P5 today. It's a track where I should be winning, and I know I would win with different stuff. So yeah, we just need to keep working." - Jorge Prado on his performance at Southwick. 

RedBud should hopefully clear a few things up.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Two guys really stand out when it comes to consistency, but only one of them is expected. First, Hunter Lawrence. The guy is a machine when it comes to laying down laps. You can always count on him to be near the top. But R.J. Hampshire? A pleasant surprise. Especially after Moto 1, where he charged from nearly last place. R.J. is finding his stride on the 450 and gaining confidence. He might just be a consistent Top 5 threat for the rest of the season.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Yeah... Jett was untouchable. Worth noting here: his fastest lap in both motos was quicker than anyone else’s Lap 99.

450 Moto 2 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

Once again, Jett sat on top. But take a look at Hunter Lawrence. His median lap time was 1.4 seconds better than Tomac’s. Sure, Jett was another 1.2 seconds faster than Hunter, but still, Hunter is quietly having a stellar sophomore season. Living in Jett’s shadow might be discouraging, but make no mistake: the guy is a stud.
 

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Just as impressive is Hunter’s consistency. Only two riders managed to score above 90 in both motos: Hunter and Harri Kullas. Speaking of Kullas, he’s not having the explosive season we saw from him last year, but the veteran from Estonia still laid down some fantastic laps in the sand.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Looking at Lap 99 times, Hunter and Tomac are nearly identical. But when you compare their fastest laps from Moto 2, Tomac’s is over half a second quicker than Hunter’s. This is where Hunter still struggles. He just doesn’t have that sprint pace in the opening laps. While he finds his speed and settles into a rhythm over 30 minutes, he's losing valuable time early on, particularly to Jett.

Excellent analysis! Jett’s consistency is lethal 

7/8/2025 11:15am

Anybody know what the prizes were for the Fantasy MX round at Southwick? I got 2nd and haven't heard anything. I got 5th for Thunder Valley, and FMF reached out to send a hat and a pair of socks. Any info would be appreciated!

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7/8/2025 11:33am

I got first at HiPoint and haven't heard anything either.....

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