Carmichaels style

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Coming across old RC videos is always so cool because he actually looked like he was going as fast as he was. This is what youd think it would look like if someone was going race winning speed at southwick. It actually makes it even crazier how easy jett makes it look, but damn is it fun to see someone swapping all over the place and foot off the pegs. Its going to be fun watching deegan move up to 450 because he has such a different style to jett. He gets compared to RC a lot, but actually going back and watching RC again theyre really nothing alike. Deegan is a sender, but he looks in control most of the time. Ricky looked out of control but somehow he usually kept it on 2 wheels. Watching ricky ride southwick was peak entertainment and js7 pushing him to ride over his head made it even better. 

 

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6/25/2025 8:14am

^How, how HOW did he save that swap at the end of the short above???? 😲😵

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6/25/2025 8:25am

Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw, determination.

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r_outsider wrote:
Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw...

Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw, determination.

Lol thats the most accurate thing ive ever heard. 

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6/25/2025 9:48am
r_outsider wrote:
Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw...

Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw, determination.

Great way of putting it!

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6/25/2025 10:04am

Awesome clip. I gotta say he looks exactly like Deegs though. Dead ringer. Go rewatch Deegs 2024 Southwick Moto 2 start and tell me it isn’t identical to this clip.

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6/25/2025 10:42am

Partly retired and still able to run down and pass a prime James Stewart at the narliest track in America. Jett is great and all but RC is the GOAT and always will be

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6/25/2025 10:44am

i dont believe anybody has ever ridden a 450 as fast as james and rc did during 07 outdoors. 

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6/25/2025 11:01am

You also have to take in to account how fast he had to go to win over James. 

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That speed still plays today, change my mind

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6/25/2025 11:28am

Races, outdoors, are won in the turns. NOBODY ever got on the gas sooner or as hard as RC. And still haven't. The end.

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6/25/2025 1:14pm
r_outsider wrote:
Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw...

Think it was Bob Hannah someone said he crashed 20 times a lap, he just never fell down. RC is the same way. Just pure, raw, determination.

One of the best ways to describe the style!  Love it

6/25/2025 1:22pm

Speaking of RC's style - I think him and J Mart have the exact same style, they are a little ball on the bike and wfo. 

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6/25/2025 1:45pm

I was just watching some Daytona 2002 raw video and thinking RC's style was never very pretty and his bike set-up was so odd, but it obviously worked for him! (RC can throw some mean whips though).

Someone like Windham had a much more flowing and composed style to me. I never liked the way RC really looked on the bike but like I said, it got the job done.

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Pop Shmoke
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Races, outdoors, are won in the turns. NOBODY ever got on the gas sooner or as hard as RC. And still haven't. The end.

Nobody ever mentions this but you’re 100% right Carmichael was a savage in corner speed.

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6/25/2025 3:11pm

Where is James ranked? His comp was stiff and he still is the goat.

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Falcon wrote:

^How, how HOW did he save that swap at the end of the short above???? 😲😵

Never even burped the throttle.

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6/25/2025 7:15pm

Ricky could ride lol

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6/25/2025 8:16pm

Watching the '07 season, I was glad RC retired when he did. With the way those two were pushing each other, one (or both) of them was likely to get seriously hurt if they'd done a full season or two.

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6/25/2025 8:18pm

Races, outdoors, are won in the turns. NOBODY ever got on the gas sooner or as hard as RC. And still haven't. The end.

Pop Shmoke wrote:

Nobody ever mentions this but you’re 100% right Carmichael was a savage in corner speed.

Absolutely correct. I recall him at Glen Helen, second year on the Pro Circuit Kawi 125, sporting the big number 1 plate. He came down the rutted, muddy straight into the 90 degree right turn (same turn that, years later, Mike Alessi would clobber Ivan Tedesco), and just SLAMMED into the berm WFO. I mean, the engine note never changed. And he was gone! There was no finesse, just a pure power move. Awe-inspiring.

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6/25/2025 8:31pm

Races, outdoors, are won in the turns. NOBODY ever got on the gas sooner or as hard as RC. And still haven't. The end.

Pop Shmoke wrote:

Nobody ever mentions this but you’re 100% right Carmichael was a savage in corner speed.

Absolutely correct. I recall him at Glen Helen, second year on the Pro Circuit Kawi 125, sporting the big number 1 plate. He came down the...

Absolutely correct. I recall him at Glen Helen, second year on the Pro Circuit Kawi 125, sporting the big number 1 plate. He came down the rutted, muddy straight into the 90 degree right turn (same turn that, years later, Mike Alessi would clobber Ivan Tedesco), and just SLAMMED into the berm WFO. I mean, the engine note never changed. And he was gone! There was no finesse, just a pure power move. Awe-inspiring.

Same GH race that he exploded a hail bail on a big down hill ?  He never backed off & it didn’t phase him at all, that’s rare.  I saw him race a bunch on a 125 all the talk was that you can’t ride that out of control. And last a season he proved that wrong.  He’s actually smooth but going soo much faster bikes get out of control.  

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6/25/2025 8:47pm

RC - 10 outdoor mx championships in a row......   That is all you have to remember to put into perspective how good/dominate he was.

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Pop Shmoke
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6/25/2025 9:26pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 9:30pm



Wait till the end 😂
 


 

Also cant forget ricky showing off doing a can can off the finish and then endoing off the track immediately after… then getting up and still winning. Pure entertainment 😂


 

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6/25/2025 10:35pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 10:37pm
Falcon wrote:

^How, how HOW did he save that swap at the end of the short above???? 😲😵

i think RC is very underrated when it comes to his talent and bike control. if  you pay attentionand slow the clip/pause you'll notice he and his hips stay centered, and head forward on the bike allowing the bike to freely move. he opens into a 'whip' and pulls it back and driving with the direction that he lands instead of trying to stay going forward,

i would argue, that if Jett did the same swap out, he would've landed it just as easily but it wouldnt have looked as animated. I would credit this to his natural movement conservation as well as his overall height. RC being so much shorter would have to move his body more to leverage the bike vs taller riders such as Jett

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6/25/2025 11:30pm

Lining up on the gate against RC outdoors the best you could hope for was second place.  You weren’t going to win.  This went on for years and years until he retired.  Just ask K-Dub. 

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Those bikes were gnarly!!! At around 50 seconds on the original vurb video James looks like he’s struggling to get the bike turned right but once he gets it straight, holy crap he takes the hell off!!!! Just gone down the straight.

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6/26/2025 12:29am

It's funny with all this talk about certain riding style (using low revs, staying on the balls of the feet and standing up through corners, not using clutch, being smooth all the time) and the most winningest rider in sports history had none of that and just kept throttle wide open all the time. But I guess that's just the evolution of the riding style 

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zippytech wrote:

Where is James ranked? His comp was stiff and he still is the goat.

Most of the talk about Stew having stiff suspension was SX. 

He and Reedy both had notoriously stiff forks so they could attack the whoops, but it was a compromise everywhere else. 

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zippytech
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6/26/2025 7:01am

I think I worded that wrong, my comment was the fact that Carmichael's competition was tough, James in many books is what top 3 or top 5 best all time. and Carmichael still became the GOAT. against that.

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RC and style are two words that would never be used in the same sentence lol.

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