Prado's Green Turtle...

6/14/2025 12:08pm
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Dropped from 2:08 to 2:11 to 2:15 to 2:22. 

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6/14/2025 12:15pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 12:20pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Dropped from 2:08 to 2:11 to 2:15 to 2:22. 
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Dropped from 2:08 to 2:11 to 2:15 to 2:22. 

The bike must have started running slower mid-moto, right?

Mitch should mail him a pair of running shoes.

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I dont know what is the reason but in his first year with Gas gas gas rhe same... He push in the first laps and later deop the anchor because the bike wasnt where he wanted and he couldnt push all moto. 

Maybe is something like that year, but Who knows.

He needs time, i expected more too but the real thing is this his only 7 race with kawi and with alu chasis... His only brand diferent to ktm in his life was metrakit in his early years... Metrakit is like cobra in EEUU... Made in the past bikes for kids.

I expected him Racing for top 5-8 ... Hope he turns It soon and bring home what a Rider of his caliber should bring.

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Paturel’s bike must be way faster than Jorge’s, since he reeled him in from way back. 🤦🏻‍♂️I don’t know what Jorge’s real issue is, but it...

Paturel’s bike must be way faster than Jorge’s, since he reeled him in from way back. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I don’t know what Jorge’s real issue is, but it ain’t the bike.  If it is, he needs to figure out what he needs to get comfy because 2026 SX ain’t going to be any easier.

On a relatively hard packed east coast track, he got a good start and dropped the anchor.  The Prado panic button has to be smashed at this point.

crusty_xx wrote:
He's not even trying. He pushed for a bit early in the race when he passed Webb. Then had two good laps. Then dropped by 4...

He's not even trying. He pushed for a bit early in the race when he passed Webb. Then had two good laps. Then dropped by 4 seconds a lap. There's no way that's bike related or fitness related. He must have made a mistake and decided to just mail it in.

Maybe he’s struggling with the bike goes and fast as possible the first few laps then it wears him out and he just brings it in safely. Idk but this proves going from one series to another isn’t as easy as expected. 

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Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

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Without doubt there’s something else going on here , in a gp he would put a minute on / lap some of the riders hovering around the top ten , I knew it was a big change and wouldn’t be easy but something don’t add up 

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Maybe Kawis got him on a stock 250 with a pipe

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12-23 is diabolical. The first moto .. so strange. To get beat by a guy who probably hasn't been within 15 seconds of him for 5 years 

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6/14/2025 2:19pm
Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

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Prado's not a good mud rider, but seeing the reigning MXGP champ spanked by Paturel who couldn't find a ride (and so many others) is not exactly something I would have expected...

Not feeling comfortable with the bike is a thing, but now we've entered another galaxy.

 

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Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

I think Kenny has Prado and Jeffrey beat as youngest winner and I think Kenny might be the youngest world champ too. 

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6/14/2025 2:28pm
Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

Agreed. But that's why everyone is freaking out about his results. There is no possible reason why Paturel should beat him. He had less time on the Suzuki. Has to adjust to all the same things. And he's riding a damn Suzuki.

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6/14/2025 2:28pm
Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

Has to be confidence. And as the motos keep going like this he's only going to sink deeper. He went on GT and spoke openly about believing he can beat Jett. That Jorge seems light years away 

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Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

We know he has talent. At this point it’s just trying to figure out what is wrong. Since no facts have been provided we can only speculate. My guess is the shoulder, with a little bike setup complicating things.

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6/14/2025 2:30pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 2:35pm
Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

ohh_454 wrote:

I think Kenny has Prado and Jeffrey beat as youngest winner and I think Kenny might be the youngest world champ too. 

Yeah Kenny got his first GP win just 2 months after turning 15 and is also still the youngest champion I think.

He has a point though, Prado absolutely belongs to the Kenny/Herlings talent conversation (Prado probably had the two most dominant MX2 seasons in history aswell, together with 2013 Herlings) and it's sad to see him this year. I really hope something happens asap.

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6/14/2025 2:38pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Agreed. But that's why everyone is freaking out about his results. There is no possible reason why Paturel should beat him. He had less time on...

Agreed. But that's why everyone is freaking out about his results. There is no possible reason why Paturel should beat him. He had less time on the Suzuki. Has to adjust to all the same things. And he's riding a damn Suzuki.

Yeah, dont get me wrong.

Prado is the mxgp champ and needs to prove thins in ama.

Paturel spend almost all of his pro Carrer on a Yamaha that has alu frame.

The results of Prado are far for mediocre but IMO more sooner than later he should win some races...

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6/14/2025 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 3:36pm

Specially when you look at Prados first MXGP championship in 2023 when everyone said he was just start dependent and could only deliver in the first moto (well both of those were kinda true), then he showed a whole nother level last year, coming through the pack when he had rare bad starts, winning 11 overalls, completely different level to his first one.. And now he's battling privateers. Man it's so tough to watch as a fan

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4 world championships.  Holeshot king.

Kawi better do something 

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6/14/2025 2:58pm
big natty wrote:

4 world championships.  Holeshot king.

Kawi better do something 

His starts were fine today.  The fades and poor finishes are the problem.

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Ben Townley and another guy on a podcast said Prado told when he signed that he needs the fastest bike they can build.  Ben said he likes point shoot. Dragster power. He dosent want to over ride the bike  like Eli. Check it out.  Elhombre and Adam were both complaining..

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6/14/2025 3:20pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Agreed. But that's why everyone is freaking out about his results. There is no possible reason why Paturel should beat him. He had less time on...

Agreed. But that's why everyone is freaking out about his results. There is no possible reason why Paturel should beat him. He had less time on the Suzuki. Has to adjust to all the same things. And he's riding a damn Suzuki.

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Yeah, dont get me wrong.Prado is the mxgp champ and needs to prove thins in ama.Paturel spend almost all of his pro Carrer on a Yamaha...

Yeah, dont get me wrong.

Prado is the mxgp champ and needs to prove thins in ama.

Paturel spend almost all of his pro Carrer on a Yamaha that has alu frame.

The results of Prado are far for mediocre but IMO more sooner than later he should win some races...

Sooner and later as in next year? No way he wins any Nationals this summer

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6/14/2025 3:31pm
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Ben Townley and another guy on a podcast said Prado told when he signed that he needs the fastest bike they can build.  Ben said he...

Ben Townley and another guy on a podcast said Prado told when he signed that he needs the fastest bike they can build.  Ben said he likes point shoot. Dragster power. He dosent want to over ride the bike  like Eli. Check it out.  Elhombre and Adam were both complaining..

Kinda hard to believe that a guy who drops from 2:08 lap times early to 2:20+ late in the moto needs more ponies to improve his results.

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Sooner and later as in next year? No way he wins any Nationals this summer

I dont kown... Im saying a moto jajaj not a overall.

Funny history.

In 2015 i was race mechanic at spanish championship and some fridays Prado and his father come at the truck where i worked to Talk with my boss.

Prado was Racing 125 in mx2 in Spain and one time i said to his father that his son is one of the Next world champion and his father smiled me but Prado only was a kid playing with braceras and didnt realized that...im guettig old

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6/14/2025 3:37pm
He just seems to pump up really bad, he rides pretty good for a few laps then drops anchor, I think he is hiding an injury...

He just seems to pump up really bad, he rides pretty good for a few laps then drops anchor, I think he is hiding an injury and/ or gets major arm pump and drops. Hoping he gets whatever it is figured out. 

The only injury is in his head. This is a total meltdown. 

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Until i hear otherwise, at this point Im just going to assume that he and Kawi have agreed that he can just show up and go through the motions each week to learn the tracks, stay healthy and consider this entire year a wash. I just can't accept that he's trying at all, to be competitive. 

I dunno man.... 

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Press516 wrote:

Tomac got in the 2:04’s while Prado was running 2:20’s.  Sure, it’s the bike…

cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

I get your point his results are awesome and Kawasaki's investment in him is worthwhile. NOT. What you state is something we can all agree on. You are absolutely correct. He has always been a contender where ever he raced obviously, just like you posted. But the perplexing thing is why isn't he now? That is the question, and judging by privateers on Kawasakis and Anderson it is not the bike.

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cesar_rc4 wrote:
Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp...

Man i dont kown if some vital menbers are new to sport.

Prado won emx125 at 14 at his first try, he won his first mx2 gp at 15 years old. Herlings was youngest, Prado Next and Next was Rozcen.

He has a talent like Herlings, Jett, Tomac, RV2, RC4,R22, cairoli, everts, tortelli, Bubba, Gajser, pichón and many more.

Not so much Riders acomplish at his age what he acomplish and people here act like after 7 races he should retire at 24 years old.

I dont know whats the deal with him but he has time to figoure It, he is in his best years as a atlethe.

ohh_454 wrote:

I think Kenny has Prado and Jeffrey beat as youngest winner and I think Kenny might be the youngest world champ too. 

Mavetism wrote:
Yeah Kenny got his first GP win just 2 months after turning 15 and is also still the youngest champion I think.He has a point though...

Yeah Kenny got his first GP win just 2 months after turning 15 and is also still the youngest champion I think.

He has a point though, Prado absolutely belongs to the Kenny/Herlings talent conversation (Prado probably had the two most dominant MX2 seasons in history aswell, together with 2013 Herlings) and it's sad to see him this year. I really hope something happens asap.

Shit yes it is sad. Kawasaki or Prado should tell us what the real problem is, it must be an injury? It cannot be the bike to this extent of losing. Yes, sad is the most fitting word.

6/14/2025 4:03pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 4:03pm

Prado was never my fav rider in GPs but still a fan. If you watch his career and championships, he’s never really been good at coming through the pack. His MO was to Holeshot and sprint a few then maintain his lead and his big points leads ion his 450 championships were built in the short Saturday qualifying races. I still say, if there wasn’t points for the Saturday races he wouldn’t of won the titles. 

Saying all that, it’s not just the bike here that’s for sure, there is a lot more going on. He’s a confidence rider and needs a happy environment and I’m not sure he’s geling with the team or whatever. There is no way in the world, slow bike or not that he should be struggling to keep it inside the top ten being pressured by Paturel, who couldn’t lace Prados boots through there careers. 

All doesn’t appear well in that camp, it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a mutual parting of ways between them. 

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In the first moto after a few laps he did not look aggressive at all from what I seen out of the others.

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