Prado panic button?

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Cortami79 wrote:
He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big...

He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big injury (broken femur) and had to work his way back to pace. Took him more then a year to get comfortable enough to push. If he is not comfortable he will not push. I remember his first year on the GasGas he was struggling a LOT. He rode quite a bit at our local track and WP Suspension was with him trying all sorts of things all the time. Last year (2024) he was unreal on tracks around Lommel area. 

You cannot tell me that a rider that went top 5 on a 250 at MXON races - from the age of 17 years old - doesn't have the speed and ability to get closer to the leaders at the outdoors. And that's not meant as a disrespect to the AMA riders. But, we all know he should be up front if he is comfortable. I didn't expect him to win immediately, but everyone that has seen him ride the past 8-10 years, sees that he is not 100% comfortable

Exactly this. I understand the worry and maybe a bit of panic but in no way have they even looked at the actual panic button. Like you say, anyone who has actually watched Prado ride, knows he's NOT comfortable at the moment. Kawi signed him for multiple years. I'm sure they will allow A 2X MXGP champ some time to adjust. 

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Cortami79 wrote:
He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big...

He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big injury (broken femur) and had to work his way back to pace. Took him more then a year to get comfortable enough to push. If he is not comfortable he will not push. I remember his first year on the GasGas he was struggling a LOT. He rode quite a bit at our local track and WP Suspension was with him trying all sorts of things all the time. Last year (2024) he was unreal on tracks around Lommel area. 

You cannot tell me that a rider that went top 5 on a 250 at MXON races - from the age of 17 years old - doesn't have the speed and ability to get closer to the leaders at the outdoors. And that's not meant as a disrespect to the AMA riders. But, we all know he should be up front if he is comfortable. I didn't expect him to win immediately, but everyone that has seen him ride the past 8-10 years, sees that he is not 100% comfortable

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power wasn't an issue then, nevermind he was 17. I just want to see him get a start and run up front and its going to break this mental block he has going. He's too damn good to have just lost his skills at 24yrs old

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6/11/2025 4:47am
At the moment the GP guys that have come here are not setting the world on fire in MX that's for sure. How much of Prado's...

At the moment the GP guys that have come here are not setting the world on fire in MX that's for sure. How much of Prado's MXGP titles was familiarity with the tracks, lots of track time and a works GP bike that was tailored to him specifically?

Prado’s closest MXGP competitors are also familiar with the tracks, also have lots of track time and also have works bikes tailored them them specifically. 

You do come out with some shit. 

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Cortami79 wrote:
He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big...

He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big injury (broken femur) and had to work his way back to pace. Took him more then a year to get comfortable enough to push. If he is not comfortable he will not push. I remember his first year on the GasGas he was struggling a LOT. He rode quite a bit at our local track and WP Suspension was with him trying all sorts of things all the time. Last year (2024) he was unreal on tracks around Lommel area. 

You cannot tell me that a rider that went top 5 on a 250 at MXON races - from the age of 17 years old - doesn't have the speed and ability to get closer to the leaders at the outdoors. And that's not meant as a disrespect to the AMA riders. But, we all know he should be up front if he is comfortable. I didn't expect him to win immediately, but everyone that has seen him ride the past 8-10 years, sees that he is not 100% comfortable

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power...

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power wasn't an issue then, nevermind he was 17. I just want to see him get a start and run up front and its going to break this mental block he has going. He's too damn good to have just lost his skills at 24yrs old

To be fair Hunter, also on a 250, beat both Prado and Tomac in one of those motos.

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You mean Jett who was third in the moto because shock was to stiff? Or Eli who backed off to 7-8 when bike wasn't feeling right?Sorry but...

You mean Jett who was third in the moto because shock was to stiff? 

Or Eli who backed off to 7-8 when bike wasn't feeling right?

Sorry but you are just wrong. A suspension setup for that powerfull bike is very different from a slow bike. It one thing is off, everything is off.

Jett would not be able to top three on Tomac bike, and Tomac would not be able to win or top three on Jetts bike. Probably not even top 5. They would if they where not in the championship hunt back it off even more, not to risk anything. So 5-10 is not out of the question. 

The 1.5min or 50 sec behind is irrelevant when rider is not charging anyway.

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You put Jett on a Star Yamaha, he will win. You put Jett on a Factory Kawi, he will will. Put Jett on a ktm, he...

You put Jett on a Star Yamaha, he will win. You put Jett on a Factory Kawi, he will will. Put Jett on a ktm, he will win. Put Eli on a Honda, he will will, put him on a Kawi, he will win. They wouldn’t be pulling a Prado and doin jack shit. My point is that with the level of talent that Prado is, he should be able to overcome that and still be top 5 right now. Gajser might sign with Ducati next year, and he will probably win on that thing because he will rise to the occasion. Prados being a lame right now. 

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Jett did literally did not win last race because he was a bit off, and you think putting him on a different bike that isn't dialed...

Jett did literally did not win last race because he was a bit off, and you think putting him on a different bike that isn't dialed in would make him win? 😄

No champion so far, has been able to win on anything. Sorry, but none. They have all struggled from time to time. McGrath rode previous generation frame for gods sake 😄

Dungey had bike issues as soon as he couldn't win.

Jett lost SMX races because bike was off. A brand they had been on for a season already. Eli can't win if the bike is to low in rear, took him half a season to figure that out on kawi and a few races on Yamaha.

Hunter chased the bike almost all outdoor last season. When fixed, he could hang with Chase. Without it, not so much.

So you are just factually wrong. 

No one can ride around the bike if it isnt within the small narrow window they have to hit today. Just keyboard warriors getting lapped after 3 laps on those tracks that think they should be able to 😂

And Prado isnt 90sec off bad right now, he just don't try because it takes him nowhere and risk crashing if the bike is that off for him. Its competing for win or maybe podium, or nothing, everything else is more or less a loss for him.

You can feel after a lap if the bike is better or not, if not he just mails it in. Maybe he knows it already before weekend. Just as Tomac on both Kawi and Yamaha, just as Jett took a third last race because shock setting was off. Just as AP went from almost winning to a fifth place guy because he went wrong direction on setup for moto 2. Tomac changes his setting for moto 2 because she couldn't turn the bike in moto 1.

Literally everyone is exactly the same. 2-3 clicks and a millimeter of sag and they are going from first to top 5. These are riders that's been years on the same chassis and ridden the tracks 10 times.

There is zero chance with how picky Jett has been on bike setup, he just hopes on the Kawi or Yami and wins in this field, zero.

I don’t remember Hunter struggling much of the start of the outdoors last year? He was 2nd most rounds and won a moto at thunder valley (3rd round). 

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You put Jett on a Star Yamaha, he will win. You put Jett on a Factory Kawi, he will will. Put Jett on a ktm, he...

You put Jett on a Star Yamaha, he will win. You put Jett on a Factory Kawi, he will will. Put Jett on a ktm, he will win. Put Eli on a Honda, he will will, put him on a Kawi, he will win. They wouldn’t be pulling a Prado and doin jack shit. My point is that with the level of talent that Prado is, he should be able to overcome that and still be top 5 right now. Gajser might sign with Ducati next year, and he will probably win on that thing because he will rise to the occasion. Prados being a lame right now. 

aees wrote:
Jett did literally did not win last race because he was a bit off, and you think putting him on a different bike that isn't dialed...

Jett did literally did not win last race because he was a bit off, and you think putting him on a different bike that isn't dialed in would make him win? 😄

No champion so far, has been able to win on anything. Sorry, but none. They have all struggled from time to time. McGrath rode previous generation frame for gods sake 😄

Dungey had bike issues as soon as he couldn't win.

Jett lost SMX races because bike was off. A brand they had been on for a season already. Eli can't win if the bike is to low in rear, took him half a season to figure that out on kawi and a few races on Yamaha.

Hunter chased the bike almost all outdoor last season. When fixed, he could hang with Chase. Without it, not so much.

So you are just factually wrong. 

No one can ride around the bike if it isnt within the small narrow window they have to hit today. Just keyboard warriors getting lapped after 3 laps on those tracks that think they should be able to 😂

And Prado isnt 90sec off bad right now, he just don't try because it takes him nowhere and risk crashing if the bike is that off for him. Its competing for win or maybe podium, or nothing, everything else is more or less a loss for him.

You can feel after a lap if the bike is better or not, if not he just mails it in. Maybe he knows it already before weekend. Just as Tomac on both Kawi and Yamaha, just as Jett took a third last race because shock setting was off. Just as AP went from almost winning to a fifth place guy because he went wrong direction on setup for moto 2. Tomac changes his setting for moto 2 because she couldn't turn the bike in moto 1.

Literally everyone is exactly the same. 2-3 clicks and a millimeter of sag and they are going from first to top 5. These are riders that's been years on the same chassis and ridden the tracks 10 times.

There is zero chance with how picky Jett has been on bike setup, he just hopes on the Kawi or Yami and wins in this field, zero.

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I don’t remember Hunter struggling much of the start of the outdoors last year? He was 2nd most rounds and won a moto at thunder valley...

I don’t remember Hunter struggling much of the start of the outdoors last year? He was 2nd most rounds and won a moto at thunder valley (3rd round). 

He switched bike to the new, midd season. Reason he dropped back according to himself.

6/11/2025 5:39am
Cortami79 wrote:
He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big...

He needs time. His first year in MXGP class was tough as well, even though he showed the speed. He started that year with a big injury (broken femur) and had to work his way back to pace. Took him more then a year to get comfortable enough to push. If he is not comfortable he will not push. I remember his first year on the GasGas he was struggling a LOT. He rode quite a bit at our local track and WP Suspension was with him trying all sorts of things all the time. Last year (2024) he was unreal on tracks around Lommel area. 

You cannot tell me that a rider that went top 5 on a 250 at MXON races - from the age of 17 years old - doesn't have the speed and ability to get closer to the leaders at the outdoors. And that's not meant as a disrespect to the AMA riders. But, we all know he should be up front if he is comfortable. I didn't expect him to win immediately, but everyone that has seen him ride the past 8-10 years, sees that he is not 100% comfortable

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power...

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power wasn't an issue then, nevermind he was 17. I just want to see him get a start and run up front and its going to break this mental block he has going. He's too damn good to have just lost his skills at 24yrs old

CPR wrote:

To be fair Hunter, also on a 250, beat both Prado and Tomac in one of those motos.

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in a moto?

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Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power...

Yeah, I'm sounding like a broken record, but I was at Red Bud when he gave Tomac the business on a 250. Being down on power wasn't an issue then, nevermind he was 17. I just want to see him get a start and run up front and its going to break this mental block he has going. He's too damn good to have just lost his skills at 24yrs old

CPR wrote:

To be fair Hunter, also on a 250, beat both Prado and Tomac in one of those motos.

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in...

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in a moto?

 

In Race 2:

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At the moment the GP guys that have come here are not setting the world on fire in MX that's for sure. How much of Prado's...

At the moment the GP guys that have come here are not setting the world on fire in MX that's for sure. How much of Prado's MXGP titles was familiarity with the tracks, lots of track time and a works GP bike that was tailored to him specifically?

Prado’s closest MXGP competitors are also familiar with the tracks, also have lots of track time and also have works bikes tailored them them specifically. You do...

Prado’s closest MXGP competitors are also familiar with the tracks, also have lots of track time and also have works bikes tailored them them specifically. 

You do come out with some shit. 

Next..

Come out with some shit? I was more or less defending the guy when I started posting about him lol. He seems like he might be similar to Justin Cooper in that he needs to start up front to get a result. How many times in MXGP did he get a lousy start and ride up through the pack especially when the field was full of the best guys?  I believe that he will get his act together eventually but at the moment can you even in your wildest dreams picture him racing with let alone beating Jett or Eli. I'm having a hard time with that right about now Wink  

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CPR wrote:

To be fair Hunter, also on a 250, beat both Prado and Tomac in one of those motos.

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in...

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in a moto?

VHM wrote:
 In Race 2:

 

In Race 2:

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USA looked pretty darned good on Saturday and then we fell to pieces on Sunday that weekend. Thank god we got a mulligan and got it right the second time around! 

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Most people know about Prado`s capabilities, we only need to turn back time to last autumn, where he beat many of the top riders. The biggest change from then is the bike... From steel to alloy frame which he`s never ridden. I think it`s mostly about settings. Could also be his shoulder but he said it was ok in an interview earlier.

Other riders from MXGP get the same result in the US as in Europe or better. But they haven`t changed the bike/brand. I`m not pushing the button yet, but it`s strange to see Prado close to Paturel and Guillod on the result lists.

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Great starter, great rider, and, although still young, as well as a four time world champion, he is no better than the ninth/tenth fastest guy in the sport.

 

In no particular order, unless someone insists, we have: The Bullet, Gajser, Renaux, Coenen, Febvre, Jett, Chase, Eli and Kenny

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He has between now and Budds Creek to get on the podium IMO. Sooner is better, but he wouldn't want to go into 2026 without showing championship form. If he didn't, it would be a helluva expectations burden to carry until next season starts. 

6/11/2025 11:49am

Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the team is essentially perfect and will do whatever you want. 

JT and BT (Townley) seemed to put a majority of the blame on Kawasaki. I will say they had more relevant anecdotes to support their position. JT has seen Prado more than anyone in the US. I'd take his position the most serious. 

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when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.

something is clearly wrong, it's not like dude forgot how to ride fast.

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when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.something is clearly wrong...

when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.

something is clearly wrong, it's not like dude forgot how to ride fast.

There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those guys, he looks like a pig on stilts on the Kawasaki/

Only guy who looks worse  on the Kawasaki was Seewer. 

Nobody has got on the green bike and gone better on it, either side of the Atlantic, in the last 5 years, maybe even longer. 

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There is something more then just problem with bike,that's all is looking strange,because some year ago lot riders from mxgp came to us for some raunds like Clement Dessele who rodeo almost stock bike,far from prototype in europe,and did pretty good without any extra risk,same for Cairoly,veteran who did better then Prado...it all for me is looking strange...I understand bike problem,but not like bike is that bad

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Reminiscent of Thomas Covington. SX killed his confidence, never was able to get it back, including outdoors.

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FerCzD wrote:

Reminiscent of Thomas Covington. SX killed his confidence, never was able to get it back, including outdoors.

Covington's downfall is depressing looking back on it. Poor guy. Especially since he had a stellar amateur career.  

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Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the...

Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the team is essentially perfect and will do whatever you want. 

JT and BT (Townley) seemed to put a majority of the blame on Kawasaki. I will say they had more relevant anecdotes to support their position. JT has seen Prado more than anyone in the US. I'd take his position the most serious. 

I would also say that JT and BT are probably less biased in their opinion as well having no ties to the team or Kawasaki. AC was on Kawi his whole life and only just left the team, so whilst he does have experience of working with them, I don’t think he’d say anything bad about them publicly 

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Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in...

Hunter was incredible that day! Those were the two riders I was most impressed with that day, Prado and Huntah. You sure Hunter beat Prado in a moto?

VHM wrote:
 In Race 2:

 

In Race 2:

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USA looked pretty darned good on Saturday and then we fell to pieces on Sunday that weekend. Thank god we got a mulligan and got it...

USA looked pretty darned good on Saturday and then we fell to pieces on Sunday that weekend. Thank god we got a mulligan and got it right the second time around! 

Saturday was arguably worse than Sunday. Tomac was 10th fastest in practice and then DNF’d the qualifying race and Plessinger was 10th in the MX2 qualifying race. Just a terrible weekend all around 

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Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the...

Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the team is essentially perfect and will do whatever you want. 

JT and BT (Townley) seemed to put a majority of the blame on Kawasaki. I will say they had more relevant anecdotes to support their position. JT has seen Prado more than anyone in the US. I'd take his position the most serious. 

To be fair, when he had two working arms, AC never had a problem with either starts or speed on the Kawi 450. It's a shame the way his health took a turn when he got on the 450, he would have been a serious challenger for titles indoors and out. Granted, it's been a few years and maybe the competition has taken a step forward (Honda on their starts for instance).

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when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.something is clearly wrong...

when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.

something is clearly wrong, it's not like dude forgot how to ride fast.

philG wrote:
There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those...

There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those guys, he looks like a pig on stilts on the Kawasaki/

Only guy who looks worse  on the Kawasaki was Seewer. 

Nobody has got on the green bike and gone better on it, either side of the Atlantic, in the last 5 years, maybe even longer. 

Seewer finished 4th in points on the Kawi for the ‘24 championship.  He’s currently 10th in the points on the Ducati.  Febvre’s looked great on the new bike.  Down in points last year due to missing a couple races due to an injury but great starts and fighting for wins otherwise.

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Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the...

Interesting that the experts seem to be split. On the AC and JB podcast they seemed to put the entire blame on Prado. AC said the team is essentially perfect and will do whatever you want. 

JT and BT (Townley) seemed to put a majority of the blame on Kawasaki. I will say they had more relevant anecdotes to support their position. JT has seen Prado more than anyone in the US. I'd take his position the most serious. 

As someone has said, AC is biased. Bro has been on Kawasaki literally since he started walking.

Let's be honest, Kawi overpaid him for the results he was getting on the 450. I love AC and am happy for him, but that's just facts.  I haven't heard him say one bad thing about the team/bike..

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peelout wrote:
when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.something is clearly wrong...

when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.

something is clearly wrong, it's not like dude forgot how to ride fast.

philG wrote:
There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those...

There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those guys, he looks like a pig on stilts on the Kawasaki/

Only guy who looks worse  on the Kawasaki was Seewer. 

Nobody has got on the green bike and gone better on it, either side of the Atlantic, in the last 5 years, maybe even longer. 

280driver wrote:
Seewer finished 4th in points on the Kawi for the ‘24 championship.  He’s currently 10th in the points on the Ducati.  Febvre’s looked great on the...

Seewer finished 4th in points on the Kawi for the ‘24 championship.  He’s currently 10th in the points on the Ducati.  Febvre’s looked great on the new bike.  Down in points last year due to missing a couple races due to an injury but great starts and fighting for wins otherwise.

He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within 40 points of 3rd, i'd have said that was OK , but he was bloody awful all year and looked it. 

He hated the bike, and they couldnt fix it.  Not sure if he was allowed to use the same suspension as Febvre (Evans and Watson were not) .

 

And Febvre has been nowhere near as good on the Kawasaki as he has was on the Yamaha. 

 

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philG wrote:
He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within...

He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within 40 points of 3rd, i'd have said that was OK , but he was bloody awful all year and looked it. 

He hated the bike, and they couldnt fix it.  Not sure if he was allowed to use the same suspension as Febvre (Evans and Watson were not) .

 

And Febvre has been nowhere near as good on the Kawasaki as he has was on the Yamaha. 

 

Since 2020, Febvre himself said everytime he's been asked for (not on press releases) that the KXF suits him a lot better than the YZF.

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philG wrote:
There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those...

There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those guys, he looks like a pig on stilts on the Kawasaki/

Only guy who looks worse  on the Kawasaki was Seewer. 

Nobody has got on the green bike and gone better on it, either side of the Atlantic, in the last 5 years, maybe even longer. 

280driver wrote:
Seewer finished 4th in points on the Kawi for the ‘24 championship.  He’s currently 10th in the points on the Ducati.  Febvre’s looked great on the...

Seewer finished 4th in points on the Kawi for the ‘24 championship.  He’s currently 10th in the points on the Ducati.  Febvre’s looked great on the new bike.  Down in points last year due to missing a couple races due to an injury but great starts and fighting for wins otherwise.

philG wrote:
He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within...

He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within 40 points of 3rd, i'd have said that was OK , but he was bloody awful all year and looked it. 

He hated the bike, and they couldnt fix it.  Not sure if he was allowed to use the same suspension as Febvre (Evans and Watson were not) .

 

And Febvre has been nowhere near as good on the Kawasaki as he has was on the Yamaha. 

 

He did hate the bike, but it was how it turned that he didn’t like.  He looked better on it than he does on the Ducati IMO and there is no argument to be made that Febvre isn’t incredibly fast on the bike.

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6/11/2025 2:57pm
brocster wrote:
He’s coming back from injury and isn’t back to speed yet. It’s was clearly evident a couple weeks before Pala when I saw them at practice/testing...

He’s coming back from injury and isn’t back to speed yet. It’s was clearly evident a couple weeks before Pala when I saw them at practice/testing?.  Tickle was faster than Prado all day.  

So are Jett and tomac 

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6/11/2025 3:04pm
peelout wrote:
when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.something is clearly wrong...

when the camera was following him last week it honestly looked like a mid 20's privateer riding around, not a factory multi-time champ.

something is clearly wrong, it's not like dude forgot how to ride fast.

philG wrote:
There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those...

There are riders you can pick out by their style, no matter what they are wearimg and what they are riding, Prado is one of those guys, he looks like a pig on stilts on the Kawasaki/

Only guy who looks worse  on the Kawasaki was Seewer. 

Nobody has got on the green bike and gone better on it, either side of the Atlantic, in the last 5 years, maybe even longer. 

I dunno,  Watson and Evans looked pretty uncomfortable. Wait a minute...I see a trend 😆

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6/11/2025 3:08pm
philG wrote:
He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within...

He did , 240 Points adrift of Herlings in 3rd, and he would have been 5th had Febvre not missed rounds.  If he had been within 40 points of 3rd, i'd have said that was OK , but he was bloody awful all year and looked it. 

He hated the bike, and they couldnt fix it.  Not sure if he was allowed to use the same suspension as Febvre (Evans and Watson were not) .

 

And Febvre has been nowhere near as good on the Kawasaki as he has was on the Yamaha. 

 

I disagree on that statement about Febvre on a Kawi, Febvre never captured magic on his Yamaha again after hitting his head in 2016 on a Yamaha. You had less then 1.5 years of peak Febvre on a Yamaha. 

The Kawasaki resurrected his career, and he’s arguably never looked better. Anderson in 2022 as well was arguably the best version of his career in SX and was by far the best version of himself in MX. Guys have made the kawi work. 

Seewer did look like shit on a Kawi, but has looked worse on the Duc this year though. 

 

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