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Mirtl's motion to dismiss because the accounts were in his name is the tiny leg he has to stand on but in their response they cite several cases that debunk he was entitled to those funds based on account ownership. Mirtl claims that the breach of fiduciary was between Lawrences and WMG and not just him. Kind of like if I'm responsible, they are too. Then they go on to talk about how he made 30 online transfers to himself with memos like "advancement on commissions" or "consulting fees". Lawrences claim those things would have been paid by Wasserman under the terms of their contract. Which points to him as the guilty party and not WMG.
All he's going to do is get a counter suit against him from Wasserman at the most. Dude is cooked and he knows it. That is why he's trying to take Jett down personally.
Based on your extensive legal training and years of filing motions, or based on legal dramas you’ve watched on television and in movies?
I played the lead attorney in my 6th grade's mock trial at the Sacramento Superior Courthouse. PM for legal advice!
Wasserman already has a separate action against Mirtl in California. They claim he stole from them and it sounds like it goes beyond the Lawrence transactions.
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Thanks for clarifying, you didn’t sign your post as esquire so wasn’t sure..
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Only people operating outside of their mental capacity collect and save blackmail videos for possible future use…
Was Mirtl repping when the Lawrences when they lived in California? Maybe it's been going on for that long.
Who all is in the class besides WMG? Just the Lawrences and their entities?
No the California action was filed after the Florida case. Well, the first Florida case. It is a mandatory arbitration proceeding and venue is specified in Mirtl's employment contract.
The arbitration in California is just Wasserman v. Mirtl.
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isn't this kinda like blood from a turnip? (sorry if that's a vague saying - just means "How are you going to get money from someone who keeps posting vids saying he's flat broke")
I mean, so they win and Mirtl owes them $2m - he ain't paying that and they know it. And if this is true (that he stole 7 figures!!!!) then why is it not criminal as well?
It's generally very hard to build an embezzlement case, though not impossible. It's much "easier" to go the civil route unless it was straight theft.
It looks like the funds were all entrusted to Mirtl, so theft wouldn't apply.
I'm not saying it SHOULDN'T be criminal, that's just probably why it's staying civil for now.
I understand I don't know enough on how it works to know if this is correct or not (so I'll just assume it is). HOWEVER, it seems like it normally goes the opposite. Remember OJ was tried, found not guilty, then the family went after him civilly and won a mess of money (but OJ had it). Just seems like suing your broke ass white trash neighbor for $2m. If you win, you think you'll ever see it?
You're not wrong. Usually they will go criminal first and then if that fails (and also when it doesn't) they will go the civil route.
In this case, I doubt it will ever be tried criminally. Which is why they just went civil from the start. When there is a longstanding relationship like the Lawrences had with Mirtl, especially when he was trusted with funds for a substantial amount of time, it would incredibly difficult to prove embezzlement.
It could reflect poorly on Wasserman if one of their agents steals from a client and they don't do anything about it. Wasserman can afford to sue and litigate on principle.
As for collection of any potential judgement, Texas is a debtor haven. If someone is comfortable living with a judgement on their credit report and constantly moving money from bank to bank and giving asset depositions, collection is difficult.
Not a lawyer but based on what I do have a background and experience with (in accounting we regularly deal with trust arrangements) - and just commenting on this post, not having read the filing- legal ownership does not always mean you are entitled to do what you wish. I strongly suspect that if Mirtl had his name on accounts that were for the Lawrence’s benefit, the Lawrence’s were the beneficial owners and would have had a trust agreement of some form in place stating that. It can’t be that simple though - presumably Mirtl has lawyers who know this and have advised him accordingly.
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Shimoda and Mirtl have parted ways. He explains his reasons why at around 2:45:30 on the latest Pulp show.
just listened. I'm summarizing, but he basically says when news first broke, he wanted to be loyal to Lucas until more facts came out. Then he said he just "couldn't take it anymore" and fired him. Reading between the lines, I hear him sorta saying "The risk isn't worth the reward with Mirtl..." but that's just my take.
So now it seems as though even Mirtls Lawyer has had enough and have dropped him.... Wonder how Cooksey is going to spin this one and blame it on Hunter or Dazzy or MX Sports lol
When your lawyer drops you that’s usually a good sign I’d say. 😂😂😂
my only surprise here is that they lasted as long as they did,
True... maybe we'll get the long awaited episode 2 now lol
Litigation is expensive. Really expensive.
I wonder if it had anything to do with him refusing to provide all the correspondence between him and damn near everyone in the industry. I thought it was interesting they wanted the texts/emails between Mirtl and Kier Sexton. Nearly everyone in the industry has been drug into this shit show. His career is over when it’s all said and done.
I'm surprised the Coenens have not distanced themselves from him.
You know what, i'm not. If anyone sticks with Mirtl it was always gonna be them, they seem a bit strange to me.
I’m still waiting for episode 2 of his meltdown video!
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