Kawasaki is bringing the two stroke back!

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LungButter wrote:
Have you ridden the new forks?What exactly is so bad about them?The only complaints I’ve heard is maybe a little stiff but that was for trail...

Have you ridden the new forks?

What exactly is so bad about them?

The only complaints I’ve heard is maybe a little stiff but that was for trail riders, most the actual racers I know that have even a remote level of speed like the new suspension. 
 

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Internet riders. 

agn5008 wrote:

Yes, I’m on the internet and I also know how to ride. Crazy huh 😉

What series you race on east coast?

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Internet riders. 

agn5008 wrote:

Yes, I’m on the internet and I also know how to ride. Crazy huh 😉

bodycast wrote:

What series you race on east coast?

AWRCS and I’ll dabble in GNCCs every now and then. 

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agn5008 wrote:

Yes, I’m on the internet and I also know how to ride. Crazy huh 😉

bodycast wrote:

What series you race on east coast?

agn5008 wrote:

AWRCS and I’ll dabble in GNCCs every now and then. 

Come on down to mideast.  Set up my suspension for me 😁

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user760a wrote:
Why don't all you two stroke guys go buy a Beta, Go buy a Sherco, an Austrian brand, maybe a TM.... and more.Go buy a bike...

Why don't all you two stroke guys go buy a Beta, Go buy a Sherco, an Austrian brand, maybe a TM.... and more.

Go buy a bike from those who actually build what you claim to want!!!

Honestly, because they are all boutique brands that after a while you can't get parts for. 

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bodycast wrote:

What series you race on east coast?

agn5008 wrote:

AWRCS and I’ll dabble in GNCCs every now and then. 

bodycast wrote:

Come on down to mideast.  Set up my suspension for me 😁

If it’s KTM I obviously don’t know how to set it up 🤣

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So you’re comparing $5000+ suspension to stock… fantastic argument. 

No argument here, I simply posted that WP makes components that replace KYB and Showa components. There’s a reason they do this too. There are plenty of...

No argument here, I simply posted that WP makes components that replace KYB and Showa components. There’s a reason they do this too. 
There are plenty of high level riders that ride with AER forks and stock shock on their Austrian brand bikes and have no issues. 
When people on forums and social media exercise their opinions about things and the bandwagon jumpers pike on without any knowledge, there’s plenty of misinformation. 

The stock suspension on the new bikes isn’t half as bad as some say…. I prefer CV / Trax myself, but I can afford it and like the feel of a spring fork better. That doesn’t mean that I couldn’t enjoy riding my bikes with revalved stock suspension. 

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Cone valves aren’t components to “fix” KYB or Showa forks. They’re a completely separate fork. I’m not saying you can’t be fast on WP suspension. I’m...

Cone valves aren’t components to “fix” KYB or Showa forks. They’re a completely separate fork. I’m not saying you can’t be fast on WP suspension. I’m Vet A level (off-road) and can still move along pretty good. I’ve had Austrian bikes since 2014 because they are great bikes but at the same time I’ve also been battling the suspension woes with them. The only real fix is to convert them to KYB or go full cone valve. Both of which are pretty expensive. My whole point was, you can spend $12k on a new KTM then spend another $3k+ just to have “decent” suspension. Or spend $5k+ to have good suspension. 

Or just get any other brand motorcycle and be done with it. It’s the only manufacturer who produces high level dirt bikes with subpar to bad suspension.  

I have a 25 KTM 300 SX and a 25 YZ 450. Rode them back to back today and the suspension on the 300 has more comfort than the KYB on the YZ. The latest AER is pretty good. Maybe not for long off road events but fine for MX. 

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The New WP Spring fork is fine. The TBI engine is terrible though. 

Ride a carbed bike and a TBI back to back people…

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5/13/2025 11:34pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 11:36pm

Ride a carbed bike and a TBI back to back people…

The issue isn’t the TBI itself but the shitty job KTM has done in ensuring everything works properly and consistently. I’ve owned a 23,24,25 300 and literally today bought a yz 250 because of over 10 trips to the dealer over 3 months with no fix still for my 2025 300sx. First it had a misfire that was eventually solved with a new wire harness, now it has a bog/ hesitation and has crank sensor errors that are not fixed with new sensors. Lame and total shit show. However when the bike was working correctly this motor hands down was amazing, smooth as butter but still 100% an exciting two stroke that pulls hard and sounds unreal. As far as power goes, my 300sx eats this 2025 yz250 up. Lucky for the price difference I can have this yz built to be better than the 300.

TBI two strokes that are refined and properly executed will be and are absolutely amazing. Ktm releasing a series of bikes that run great sometimes and throw you over the bars other times sucks hard.


So if Kawi can do their homework and produce a good running TBI 300 two strokes, imo that’s worlds better than a carb one!

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agn5008 wrote:

If it’s KTM I obviously don’t know how to set it up 🤣

The new WP spring fork is great, IMO of course. I've got a few friends that are a bit more than "trail riders" who sure make them look good. I had to stop riding their bikes because it was going to make me buy a new one. 

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5/14/2025 6:29am Edited Date/Time 5/14/2025 6:29am

Maybe I missed something, but this thread is about a new Kawasaki two-stroke, right?  What's all this talk of Austrian suspension? 🤨

All kidding aside, I find it funny (and infuriating) that, AFAIK, Kawasaki's "Project H2" UTV was leaked way after the new two-stroke, and it's already being plugged on their website.  It shows they care more about drunk imbeciles with no common sense driving UTVs like Helen Keller at breakneck speed more than dudes who ride on two wheels.  Come on, Kawie!  Throw us a bone here!

**Yes, I know the market created by drunk imbeciles with no common sense is absolutely huge right now.

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bodycast wrote:

 The Austrian off road motorcycles are fantastic machines.  Like to add, without them the 2 stroke would have been dead years ago.

Yamaha never stopped making 2-Stroke YZs.

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5/14/2025 8:09am

Can someone just make a new thread when more information comes out. I am tired of checking this thread for useful info only to see people arguing about non topic related stuff. 

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user760a wrote:
Why don't all you two stroke guys go buy a Beta, Go buy a Sherco, an Austrian brand, maybe a TM.... and more.Go buy a bike...

Why don't all you two stroke guys go buy a Beta, Go buy a Sherco, an Austrian brand, maybe a TM.... and more.

Go buy a bike from those who actually build what you claim to want!!!

Great advice IMO 😁 I bought a 2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer new in Feb 2022 and it has been flawless and tons of fun for my riding needs. Don't get out as much as I did in my youth, but I don't take it for granted when I do being 67 y/o and still able to ride.

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Kawasaki has a great opportunity to unveil their new bike this weekend at the outdoor season opener.  Do you truly hear us, Kawasaki?

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Kawasaki has a great opportunity to unveil their new bike this weekend at the outdoor season opener.  Do you truly hear us, Kawasaki?

I’m all in on this…. Load a prototype in the hauler, don’t tell anyone outside Kawi that it’s there.  Roll it out and put it on a stand up next to the hauler.  Don’t let anyone close to it and don’t talk about it at all.  Let the next level of speculation begin and the telephoto lens pictures are all that’s out there to tell the story…

I think that would be a blast for the industry as a whole.

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So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

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So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three...

So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

Probably AI generated. None of us have a clue. This one is tighter-lipped than Triumph’s 250X release.

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5/19/2025 5:21pm
So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three...

So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

Ai generated click bait is what that was. That page posts releases of bikes that will never exist daily.

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Just listened to the SWAP Moto podcast and swap says for sure the 2-stroke has been pushed back to the ‘27 model year.

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5/19/2025 5:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2025 5:58pm
280driver wrote:

Just listened to the SWAP Moto podcast and swap says for sure the 2-stroke has been pushed back to the ‘27 model year.

Which means it ain’t happening 😎

It was fun to think about

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I haven’t rode in years and depending what model(s) Kawi releases for the 2 stroke, it’ll probably be my last new bike. It sucks not hearing a word about it, I mean just vague date for information?

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5/19/2025 6:58pm
So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three...

So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

Someone actually thought that was real? FB has become flooded with Ai spam 

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So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three...

So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

Someone actually thought that was real? FB has become flooded with Ai spam 

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about the flood of AI videos that are fakes. 

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So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three...

So, I get a call from a friend today saying he got pushed a Facebook message press release for the new Kawasaki KX 350 (yes, three fifty) with a European release first in July with an eventual MSRP of $11,499. He said the picture had an aluminum frame and it had Showa forks and had a few paragraphs of information.  When I got home, I looked for any info on the new KX but I have not found anything.  He's saying now that he can't find what he saw either so the release must have been pulled.  When I went to a large Kawasaki dealer a couple of weeks ago, they said they were told of a June release of info to the dealers.

Has anybody seen this FB release?  I'm inclined to think it was something AI generated but since he didn't find it again, maybe it was an accidental release...Whatever!  Just wondering if anyone saw that info on FB today?

Someone actually thought that was real? FB has become flooded with Ai spam 

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about...

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about the flood of AI videos that are fakes. 

Yeah, clickbait. Screenshot 2025-05-17 at 5.25.23%E2%80%AFPM.jpeg?VersionId=hXUhWJXLQDQrvCstGZUuD yra56regh

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5/20/2025 6:12am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2025 7:33am

Someone actually thought that was real? FB has become flooded with Ai spam 

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about...

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about the flood of AI videos that are fakes. 

agn5008 wrote:
Yeah, clickbait.

Yeah, clickbait. Screenshot 2025-05-17 at 5.25.23%E2%80%AFPM.jpeg?VersionId=hXUhWJXLQDQrvCstGZUuD yra56regh

Without a doubt, it's a BS Photoshop / CG / AI.

They've thrown an extra  twist in, with the 390 Decals on the Rad Scoop. 😁

Though, imagine if it were true!

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Saw the same post, scrolled right past it…

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June announcement coming, 300cc

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Someone actually thought that was real? FB has become flooded with Ai spam 

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about...

So you saw the FB video I was asking about...Thanks for confirming it actually existed so you confirmed my friend saw something!  I'm not surprised about the flood of AI videos that are fakes. 

agn5008 wrote:
Yeah, clickbait.

Yeah, clickbait. Screenshot 2025-05-17 at 5.25.23%E2%80%AFPM.jpeg?VersionId=hXUhWJXLQDQrvCstGZUuD yra56regh

Yikes!  I'm gonna give him lots of cr@p for believing that!  In his defense, he's well past Medicare age and from Nebraska! Thanks for posting that so I can tell him I saw it and how much of an embarrassment it was to believe it!

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