2026 Silly Season

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4/11/2025 7:08am
So your opinion is that A: Deegs and Star are running a doping program andB: no one else isGot it. Can we get back to silly season talk...

So your opinion is that 

A: Deegs and Star are running a doping program and

B: no one else is

Got it. 


Can we get back to silly season talk in this thread 

No my assertion is Deegan alone is, and since he walks and quacks like a kid whose family has cheated his whole career I’ll just look at 1+1 and dare to say it equals 2. Also he will start his own team in 2026

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4/11/2025 7:19am
So your opinion is that A: Deegs and Star are running a doping program andB: no one else isGot it. Can we get back to silly season talk...

So your opinion is that 

A: Deegs and Star are running a doping program and

B: no one else is

Got it. 


Can we get back to silly season talk in this thread 

Goon645 wrote:
No my assertion is Deegan alone is, and since he walks and quacks like a kid whose family has cheated his whole career I’ll just look...

No my assertion is Deegan alone is, and since he walks and quacks like a kid whose family has cheated his whole career I’ll just look at 1+1 and dare to say it equals 2. Also he will start his own team in 2026

I think you probably should get drug tested

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I could see them keeping Vialle down if he doesn’t win the title this year, maybe they’d have him 250mx only with select 450 race’s similar...
I could see them keeping Vialle down if he doesn’t win the title this year, maybe they’d have him 250mx only with select 450 race’s similar to Jcoop in 2023 if they don’t have space, plus if Deegan moves up for 2026mx the 2026 250mx title is wide open
Honestly as much as I want to say this is Deegans outdoor title for sure, everyone was saying Deegan was going to dominate 250 west and...

Honestly as much as I want to say this is Deegans outdoor title for sure, everyone was saying Deegan was going to dominate 250 west and it hasn’t panned out how anybody was expecting

I think Deegan is simply just a much better outdoor rider than SX rider. I would be surprised if he didn't win this outdoor title without an injury or a bunch of mechanicals.

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Ls8s wrote:
I could see them keeping Vialle down if he doesn’t win the title this year, maybe they’d have him 250mx only with select 450 race’s similar...
I could see them keeping Vialle down if he doesn’t win the title this year, maybe they’d have him 250mx only with select 450 race’s similar to Jcoop in 2023 if they don’t have space, plus if Deegan moves up for 2026mx the 2026 250mx title is wide open
Honestly as much as I want to say this is Deegans outdoor title for sure, everyone was saying Deegan was going to dominate 250 west and...

Honestly as much as I want to say this is Deegans outdoor title for sure, everyone was saying Deegan was going to dominate 250 west and it hasn’t panned out how anybody was expecting

tomlopez wrote:
I think Deegan is simply just a much better outdoor rider than SX rider. I would be surprised if he didn't win this outdoor title without...

I think Deegan is simply just a much better outdoor rider than SX rider. I would be surprised if he didn't win this outdoor title without an injury or a bunch of mechanicals.

Yup, Deegs is a beast outdoors with the best bike too, kinda like RV2 with his pro circuit 250. 

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4/11/2025 8:04am
ohh_454 wrote:

Yup, Deegs is a beast outdoors with the best bike too, kinda like RV2 with his pro circuit 250. 

You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

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Goon645 wrote:

They do not allow you to maintain max effort deep into a 30+2 because SX is not 30+2. ¿Comprende?

UpTiTe wrote:

Most misinformed post on PEDs yet  

Tyler D wrote:

What's the truth?

About Deegan, I only have what I think, so I have no facts on him. 

 

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4/11/2025 8:16am

I don’t see why we are talking about deegan. 

Good point, bringing it back to potential contracts: 

I heard from an unreliable source he'll have a full Fox deal on 450's. has that been talked about? Deegs in the speed suit is not something I want on my wifes feed🤣

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twotwosix
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You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

When he is at his best he is. Problem is that We only see prime Deegan like 30% of the time. 

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4/11/2025 8:28am

What I like to see happening on the 450 side.  

Ktm: Sexton/vialle

Husqvarna: RJ/plessinger

Kawasaki: Prado/stewart 

Star: Webb/tomac

Ducati: Barcia/cooper 

Triumph: Anderson/shimoda 

Suzuki: roczen 

Honda: Jett/hunter 

That are a lot of factory seats 

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4/11/2025 8:32am

I don’t see why we are talking about deegan. 

Good point, bringing it back to potential contracts: I heard from an unreliable source he'll have a full Fox deal on 450's. has that been talked about...

Good point, bringing it back to potential contracts: 

I heard from an unreliable source he'll have a full Fox deal on 450's. has that been talked about? Deegs in the speed suit is not something I want on my wifes feed🤣

I hope he doesn’t go Fox, for one reason, ever notice that PC and Kenny all wear fox? Almost every one of those guys has been hurt this year. Craig was hurt last year and in 2023, J hope not this year. This is just something someone else notice that really made me think about it.

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4/11/2025 8:34am
mark_sxf wrote:

What I like to see happening on the 450 side.  

Ktm: Sexton/vialle

Husqvarna: RJ/plessinger

Kawasaki: Prado/stewart 

Star: Webb/tomac

Ducati: Barcia/cooper 

Triumph: Anderson/shimoda 

Suzuki: roczen 

Honda: Jett/hunter 

That are a lot of factory seats 

I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? 

My guess is Sexton to kawi.


Ktm: AP and Vialle 

Husky: RJ and Mookie

Kawasaki: sexton and Prado 

Star: Webb and Tomac

Ducati: Barcia 

Triumph: cooper 

 

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4/11/2025 8:34am

You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

twotwosix wrote:

When he is at his best he is. Problem is that We only see prime Deegan like 30% of the time. 

Hence he's nowhere near RV's level. 

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I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? My guess is Sexton to kawi.Ktm: AP and Vialle Husky: RJ and MookieKawasaki: sexton and Prado Star: Webb and TomacDucati...

I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? 

My guess is Sexton to kawi.


Ktm: AP and Vialle 

Husky: RJ and Mookie

Kawasaki: sexton and Prado 

Star: Webb and Tomac

Ducati: Barcia 

Triumph: cooper 

 

Triumph are only planning on running one 450 guy (Smith). 

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4/11/2025 8:40am

I don’t see why we are talking about deegan. 

Good point, bringing it back to potential contracts: I heard from an unreliable source he'll have a full Fox deal on 450's. has that been talked about...

Good point, bringing it back to potential contracts: 

I heard from an unreliable source he'll have a full Fox deal on 450's. has that been talked about? Deegs in the speed suit is not something I want on my wifes feed🤣

I hope he doesn’t go Fox, for one reason, ever notice that PC and Kenny all wear fox? Almost every one of those guys has been...

I hope he doesn’t go Fox, for one reason, ever notice that PC and Kenny all wear fox? Almost every one of those guys has been hurt this year. Craig was hurt last year and in 2023, J hope not this year. This is just something someone else notice that really made me think about it.

kenny been a fox lifer , he was also the poster boy for SHIFT when he got on HRC then went back to fox once he came back from the brutal crash & injury 

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4/11/2025 8:42am
ohh_454 wrote:

Yup, Deegs is a beast outdoors with the best bike too, kinda like RV2 with his pro circuit 250. 

You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

this right here 👍🏾👌🏾 ppl forget how much of a beast RV was on tht 250 

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4/11/2025 8:46am

I still think deegan gets too much flack here.

Outdoor champ, current points leader who's won races.

 

Vialle has two world titles,  no national titles, current points leader, but hasn't won a race this year and he gets a pass.

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4/11/2025 8:54am
Flatliner wrote:
I still think deegan gets too much flack here.Outdoor champ, current points leader who's won races. Vialle has two world titles,  no national titles, current points leader...

I still think deegan gets too much flack here.

Outdoor champ, current points leader who's won races.

 

Vialle has two world titles,  no national titles, current points leader, but hasn't won a race this year and he gets a pass.

2x SMX as well. 

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4/11/2025 9:01am
Flatliner wrote:
I still think deegan gets too much flack here.Outdoor champ, current points leader who's won races. Vialle has two world titles,  no national titles, current points leader...

I still think deegan gets too much flack here.

Outdoor champ, current points leader who's won races.

 

Vialle has two world titles,  no national titles, current points leader, but hasn't won a race this year and he gets a pass.

I see Vialle and the new version Marv, at best. And that is probably giving too much credit. He'll never be the undisputed #2 guy in the 450 class like Marv was for a while. 

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4/11/2025 9:23am
I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? My guess is Sexton to kawi.Ktm: AP and Vialle Husky: RJ and MookieKawasaki: sexton and Prado Star: Webb and TomacDucati...

I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? 

My guess is Sexton to kawi.


Ktm: AP and Vialle 

Husky: RJ and Mookie

Kawasaki: sexton and Prado 

Star: Webb and Tomac

Ducati: Barcia 

Triumph: cooper 

 

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Triumph are only planning on running one 450 guy (Smith). 

Smith said in an vital interview that he will “probably be back on 250 next year but it’s up in the air”. Said they are in talks but as of now he is signed for 250. That’s why my guess is cooper. I wouldn’t be surprised if smith moves up either tho. Smith mentioned maybe doing a split program. Regional sx, 450 on opposite coast and outdoors/smx. 

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4/11/2025 9:31am Edited Date/Time 4/11/2025 1:31pm
Smith said in an vital interview that he will “probably be back on 250 next year but it’s up in the air”. Said they are in...

Smith said in an vital interview that he will “probably be back on 250 next year but it’s up in the air”. Said they are in talks but as of now he is signed for 250. That’s why my guess is cooper. I wouldn’t be surprised if smith moves up either tho. Smith mentioned maybe doing a split program. Regional sx, 450 on opposite coast and outdoors/smx. 

Personally, I'd like to see JCoop head there as the number 1 guy. 

 

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Vialle won a race last year (outdoors).

You are correct, I missed his Ironman win as I was scanning The Vault.

My opinion remains the same, he wasn't a threat for the Championship at all and will need to greatly step it up to compete this year.....69 points back, Deegs coulda sat out damn near 3 motos and still won it.

Anywho, screw Deegs.....back to Silly Season talk.

 

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4/11/2025 9:55am
ohh_454 wrote:

Yup, Deegs is a beast outdoors with the best bike too, kinda like RV2 with his pro circuit 250. 

You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

I am no Deegan fan by any stretch but you have to call it like it is. 

Deegan's first two outdoor seasons he average 5.08 and 2.09 finishes. RV went 3.08 and 2.0  Pretty damn close. 

I don't like Deegan's antics at all but you cannot deny that he has speed and fitness and he is not afraid to hang it out to win. I respect his riding 100%. 

Is he RV? No. But he clearly has to potential to be one of the greats. 

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4/11/2025 10:01am
Spoonguy wrote:

Or he could just be working out.

Goon645 wrote:
Yep totally bro. That’s why all his teammates that he trains with also all have heroic catch-ups at the end of their outdoor motos. All his...

Yep totally bro. That’s why all his teammates that he trains with also all have heroic catch-ups at the end of their outdoor motos. All his competitors just aren’t training hard enough I guess 🤡

Here's the thing friend, perhaps it has nothing to do with fitness. Some riders are good towards the end of motos because the track becomes rougher, and they ride those conditions better, everybody's suspension is heated up and performing less than ideal, and he can ride with that better, or perhaps he is just able to focus longer than others. Jumping to the conclusion he is on PEDs disregards a number of other reasons.

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ohh_454 wrote:

Yup, Deegs is a beast outdoors with the best bike too, kinda like RV2 with his pro circuit 250. 

You bite your tongue. Deegan is nowhere near the level RV was on 

Alright alright I got a little carried away over here 🤣😂😂😁

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4/11/2025 10:14am

TUES and PEDS only last 25min at best.

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4/11/2025 12:57pm
I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? My guess is Sexton to kawi.Ktm: AP and Vialle Husky: RJ and MookieKawasaki: sexton and Prado Star: Webb and TomacDucati...

I thought Shimoda is under contract for next year? 

My guess is Sexton to kawi.


Ktm: AP and Vialle 

Husky: RJ and Mookie

Kawasaki: sexton and Prado 

Star: Webb and Tomac

Ducati: Barcia 

Triumph: cooper 

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Triumph are only planning on running one 450 guy (Smith). 

Smith said in an vital interview that he will “probably be back on 250 next year but it’s up in the air”. Said they are in...

Smith said in an vital interview that he will “probably be back on 250 next year but it’s up in the air”. Said they are in talks but as of now he is signed for 250. That’s why my guess is cooper. I wouldn’t be surprised if smith moves up either tho. Smith mentioned maybe doing a split program. Regional sx, 450 on opposite coast and outdoors/smx. 

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4/11/2025 1:02pm

Smith should definitely do 250s again next year, I hear you gotta get past that full decade in the class before you can start winning titles.

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4/11/2025 2:37pm
Kevin852 wrote:
I am no Deegan fan by any stretch but you have to call it like it is. Deegan's first two outdoor seasons he average 5.08 and 2.09...

I am no Deegan fan by any stretch but you have to call it like it is. 

Deegan's first two outdoor seasons he average 5.08 and 2.09 finishes. RV went 3.08 and 2.0  Pretty damn close. 

I don't like Deegan's antics at all but you cannot deny that he has speed and fitness and he is not afraid to hang it out to win. I respect his riding 100%. 

Is he RV? No. But he clearly has to potential to be one of the greats. 

All I said was is he is nowhere near the level RV was on. Which he isn’t. Hell the kid needs to actually go race mxdn if he wants to be put in the same sentence as rv. 

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4/11/2025 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 4/11/2025 3:00pm
mark_sxf wrote:

What I like to see happening on the 450 side.  

Ktm: Sexton/vialle

Husqvarna: RJ/plessinger

Kawasaki: Prado/stewart 

Star: Webb/tomac

Ducati: Barcia/cooper 

Triumph: Anderson/shimoda 

Suzuki: roczen 

Honda: Jett/hunter 

That are a lot of factory seats 

Malcom on kawi? Wtf hell nah

I think its about to the craziest stacked roster of heavy hitters.

Hunter/Jett

Tomac/webb

Prado/Sexton.

Vialle/whoever

AP to husky, with Malcom

Maybe a rozcen/Ando duo to clean it up on ducati

The rest don't matter. 

 

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