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Ahh just saw your other post. Knew that was Village. Remkus always took killer photos.
did you have any symptoms leading up to the failure<
i think the issue is that other brands refuse to issue recalls. at least kawi stands behind their product and the consumer enough to do the right thing. every brand over the years has had widespread issues, most just ignore it and let it be your problem
I think KTM had the 125/150 recall in 2022, but all they did was change something in the ECU. Not sure if they added/changed a rev limiter or changed timing to reduce the overrev.
Kawi recalled the 2021 250 for a new clutch cover due to low oil flow to the clutch causing fibers to break and take out the engine. I heard of at least 1 local guy getting a new (free) engine out of that deal. There was also the fuel pump that I think affected 250/450 in 2022 maybe?
KTM never recalled the plastic oil pump gears that would warp, but I heard some dealers managed to get customer bikes covered even with high hours.
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I too thought it looked quite familiar. 😉
I also followed the other discussion and you showed the oil pump gear breakage while here we are talking about the first gear gear
aren't we talking about the same breakup then?
Word is that Kawi has sold at least 2 and maybe 3 of them in the US.
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I just used Google Translate for "Kawasaki" and it came back as "KTM" in English.
Go figure.
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The way it's described it sounds like the primary drive gear on the crank shaft?
That was my understanding as well.
Facts. Most brands (strictly speaking for the U.S.) will refuse to perform recalls unless forced to by the CPSC. Unfortunately program / product managers always want to protect their baby, and recalls have a direct affect on consumer sentiment and the bottom line $$$.
Has anyone on this board ever seen this failure? Must have been a doozie.
Kawi doing kawi things
rereading the reminder I think you are right, I made a mistake
I think we are talking about this
There have been 0 real world failures, Kawi noticed abnormal wear patterns on a test mule. Im not sure what everyone is so worried about, its a "stop sale" not a recall. Kawi is 100% doing the right thing an should be praised for it.
Are they planning to repair the existing unsold units?
Well common sense would tell me that they arent going to scrap perfectly good bikes over a PD gear so im sure they plan to fix unsold units and put them back on the floor
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Stop Sale / Stop Ride always precede a fix of some sort. Could end up a full blown safety recall, or more of a technical bulletin that advises you on next steps, whether that be self-repair or a dealer visit.
Edit - should have put more detail here. A Stop Sale / Stop Ride advises consumers of the problem and puts a hold on the affected VINs at dealerships. It's a method of control so that the affected population doesn't grow. It also buys time for the brand to come of with the fix, get technical publications developed, source materials and/or tools, and work with the CPSC or NHTSA if necessary.
Just a long winded way of saying that owners of affected VINs should expect another communication at some point in the future. Hopefully it's got the fix in it and isn't a "we're still working on it, thanks for your patience" type thing 😂
I have a 25'SR and talked to my dealer yesterday and my VIN is part of the recall. I asked specifically if this was a stop ride and he said no only a stop sale. I already have an appointment for late April so mine gets in on the first batch of repairs, hopefully there are no delays. Good on Kawi for making this right. BTW, this is the 7th KX450 I have owned since 2007 and never had a recall or any unexpected mechanical failures so I am happy with their response.
This is the same situation with the frame from last year. Not a single real world failure. Pretty cool that they are spending the money necessary to prevent even the possibility of a failure.
They're spending money to prevent the lawsuit costs from bodily injury, or even death from occurring, should the primary gear fail during use. If it was observed in test units, and a documented issue, that evidence would be brought to light during the discovery process and Kawasaki would then be negligent. They're only doing the stop sale and updating sold units because if they don't, it will wreck them financially.
Can J-Law even read
When the primary gear fails , what’s the symptoms?
My 24 took a shit today but have a feeling it’s a trans issue due to exploding clutch plate a few weeks ago.
Yea pretty cool 🤣
They don’t give a fuck about you they just don’t want you to sue them once you break your neck
what's the difference between a stop sale recall?
There is going to be a recall I believe. Should be announced in the next few weeks.
a stop sale is exactly what it sounds like, dealers are not allowed to sell anymore units. A recall, is when you voluntarily bring your vehicle back to the dealer for a repair to be made. Just like when a large majority of automobiles in this country were being recalled for faulty air bag inflators, there was recall but it was up to you to bring it back. Stop sale and recall are two completely different things
Yep, this kind of failure and the resulting injuries/lawsuits are what took Maico from the top of the motocross world in 1981 to bankruptcy in 2 model years in the early 80's.
Did the dealer complete your repair yet? Anyone get it done or have a timeline?
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