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about 4 years ago i was getting some practice in and some big name ATV guy showed up..... i tried hangn with him, but couldn't.... my buddy in the pits said he was pulling me 2 seconds a lap..... now, i'm a relatively slow B rider..... i would think any top 20 mx guy would be 15 seconds a lap faster than me on that track, probably more...
and... from the vids, the ATV guys looked far slower through gravity cavity at dilla, and they were not jumping the leap at red bud.... if the ATV's were pulling faster lap times it's because their track was much smoother...
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Same reason that Super Carts can turn similar lap times with the Moto GP guys at Laguna Seca. In Rainey Corner the bikes go like 110 mph and the carts go like 130.
It was tough pill for me to swallow too.
...just saying
we refer to them as quadwads
Quads are fast but equal riders on the same track, same day I would think the bike would be faster. It doesnt mean I think Quads suck, it just means bikes are going to be faster.. weight being a big reason
First thing is I get really tired of hearing dirt bikers complain about how the quads ruin the track. I have a friend who was a pro bike rider (retired) and he would never complain. "Take what the track gives you" He would say. He said in order to be a good rider you must be able to ride in all conditions, wet, dry, flat, rutted, it don't matter. If you have to race in ruts to go fast, you have no reason to race.
Something I love about quad riders is they never (at least the people I hung out with) complain about the track. The quads where always first to run. Basically the quads got the track "cleaned" off. Then 10 or more bike classes would go before the quads would go again. This next heat always sucked. There was a lot of single lines going over jumps that would cause the quad to go sideways, veer in the air. No one really complained, it was scary at times, but in all it made you a better rider. It even caused some wrecks. Oh well "Take what the tracks give you"
I think the reason the quads get such a bad rep is because everyone can ride them. Hillbilly Bob can't haul a cooler on a dirt bike so he buys a quad.
Quads are easy to ride and everyone can, but its harder to go fast on a quad.
Quads weigh 400 + lbs
You can't just lean put a foot down and whip a quad, You have to hang off the seat, give its lots of throttle and pray it don't catch. BTW berms help quads too.
The cost is outrageous on a quad to get it "race ready", but you can spend a small about and have a nice weekend racer quad.
Quads are out of control in the air. While pros make it look easy, try correcting a 400+ lb quad in mid air. Its not easy.
Quads will wear your body out. Wrestling a 400lb quad lap after lap is not easy.
When you do wreck a quad always finds a way to chase you down and smash you like a bug. (got the surgery to prove that)
While I think depending on the situation it’s a coin toss on who would be faster. Most of the time its seems to be the Bike, but quads are coming on strong.
I think its amazing seeing a quad even close to the times of Bike riders.
In all seriousness, I've known a couple of alright Quad-People (is that a race?). I'm sure at the top Am and Pro level these guys are blazing fast, but my very first experience riding a quad, I was able to dice with a guy that was ranked 4th in the state in HareScrambles. And the very best I ever was on a bike was a mid-pack Expert guy 25 years ago. First time. I really don't think they require the same level of talent.
That goes for Bikes too
You got to remember there is normally more bikes, more bikes = more potential for better talent in your class.
Or maybe your a gifted quad rider
Like I said before....when the track is beat up and rough , I have yet to see a fast quad guy hang with the faster "A" and "B" riders.
But then again , I've been out of the sport ( competing or even riding ) for almost 5 years.....so maybe things have changed a little?
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Just gotta give you quad-tards shit, though, it's in our DNA.
Really though, they are a lot of fun, especially in mud.
lmao - had too, seems to be the fad around here
Guess its a good thing I ride a ATV lol
And the track was way different trust me, same layout maybe, but it was probably very smooth, but still the top Homo racer's still haul ass.
When they turn they are throwing all the dirt off the track, making it very expensive and time consuming for the track owners to replace and repair.
Then the bikers get to ride on the slick, hard base with no chance for creating ruts.
The track owners then have to buy more dirt and sand, which costs more money than they make on race day. That is why a lot of tracks have a separate 4-wheeler track.
And who cares about the lap times ….. 4-wheelers and bikes should not be on the same tracks. That is what sandy river beds are for.
I also understand where Bikers get some of their hate from. You will get Jimmy Joe Buckshot who rides around his cow field with his tabacco chewing buddies and thinks he can go race. This is where the "its easy to RIDE a quad" idea comes from, any fool can ride one you just sit on it, racing one on a motocross track, is a completely different world.
Again I will ask, how many guys who have all this negativity toward quads for being lame and easy to ride have ever had the nerve to man up and take one out on a real motocross track ?? Anyone in the downstate NY area ?? I have an open invite for anyone wanting to give it a try and have something to actually base that opinion on. PM me, we can even put it on video.
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