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It’s what probably what attracted so much attention to pit vehicles in the first place. Sure people complained about it some, but no one really said much until all the SxS and Surrons popped up. I guess that’s when people really started getting hurt
Whole heartedly agree with this thread. One thing. I cannot tell you how many times we’ve been at a race weekend and heard empty threats repeatedly over the PA system about pit riding. Some of these track owners are the equivalent of the parent that says “no” all day long and the kid keeps doing whatever they want and knows the word no will never be enforced. Drop the hammer track owners! Kick one person out with no refunds and make them the example. Everyone else will fall right in line. And let’s be honest, the ones that don’t come back aren’t the ones you want at your facility anyway.
I agree, but the worst are the kids on their KTM/Cobra 50s. I'd rank them right up there with the drunks on SxSs
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I see this issue everywhere - public transport, movies, shops, mx track... Somebody, usually kids, is doing something wrong and nobody stops them.
Not sure if it's always been like this but it definitely feels more...carefree then when I was a kid
Totally agree. In my humble opinion I think the biggest problem here, and everywhere else as you said, is education.
Why could we in the 90s, 2000s and 2010 have reasonable insurance policies, yet we had a lot of riders and pitbikes? Because people were educated, and if they weren't; someone was there to remind them not to be dumb.
Nowadays tracks have employees and schedules so when a kid (or a grown up) does dumb shit, nobody wants to handle it. And other riders are too busy on their phones to do anything.
On the other side, let's not be too docile either and accept eveything the insurance policies push on us. Cause the same way they would sue your buddy's hometrack, they would also keep raising fees and conditions every year you accept to agree with them.
A solution would be to regroup all the tracks and create their own special insurance company. A French youtuber did it here as he couldn't insure what he wanted to do/film. Seems to work and he makes his own conditions!
Recall Kellogg in the mid 2000's? When some tracks started allowing pit bikes? And he would take them away and would lock them up? Best zero tolerance enforcement I have ever see. Boy did he get crap.
Some of you never got kicked out of Dade City by a boiling hot Mr. Randy Yoho for pit riding, and it shows!
Same thing happened to me in 1992 at NESC event in Greene, ME. Side saddled my bike down a hill about 10 feet, imediately heard the president Andy Calizewski, a former marine, blow his whistle and threaten to kick me out. Couldnt even ride a bicycle i n the pits then.
Yes! And it’s just bad parenting. From the time my kid started on a p dub I told him slow in the pits and if I caught him ripping in the pits he was done riding. I was not a parent that said “no” and didn’t back it up and he knew it ha
The pits are more dangerous than the racing. I'm glad tracks are saying no more pit bikes, quads, SxS, etc. I noticed last year my local tracks are cracking down on pit riding and this year their websites say, no more pit riding. You can use a bicycle or ebike, which ebikes are an issue here too. Gangs of Surron kids wreaking havoc. I'm sure ebikes will see their day, eventually.
I was surprised the premium "only" went up 30% since 2024. I was expecting 100% or more.
I don't think it's education. I think insurance is more expensive for other reasons.
Probably the biggest is just that our society is getting more litigious all the time. Another is that health care is getting more expensive, so when there are injuries, it's just going to cost the insurer more in medical costs. Another one is experience. As time goes on, insurers and promoters just learn more about what things are risky. Every few years some new tragedy happens, and lessons are learned, new safety policies need to be developed, and rates go up to pay for the old tragedy.
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