Alpinestars medic team doesnt know what theyre doing and is dangerous

Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 10:35pm

so during the futures main they had a red flag, camera shows the rider on the medic mule with a neck collar on, and its not fitted properly and hes moving his head around. Why even bother putting the collar on if your not going to put it on properly? whats even worse is that if they have no idea how to put one on.... after they dragged brian moreau off the track paralyzing him, why are they still not doing things correctly? 

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2/1/2025 10:37pm

Excellent, the Vital Doctors have showed up. 🤡

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2/1/2025 10:43pm
1911 wrote:

Excellent, the Vital Doctors have showed up. 🤡

The device is used to keep your head still, my girlfriend is an ER nurse and immediately called it out. The photos clearly show it fitting way too loose and him moving his head around, and don't say its standard procedure to put it on, when we have seen many many other riders being carted off aren't wearing one. If you suspect someone may have a chance of having a neck injury, put the dam thing on correctly. Not just "here's your frickin neck collar lets get this guy outta here"

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2/1/2025 10:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 10:49pm

heres your neck collar kiddo now gtf off the track - A stars medic dudes

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2/1/2025 10:51pm
The device is used to keep your head still, my girlfriend is an ER nurse and immediately called it out. The photos clearly show it fitting...

The device is used to keep your head still, my girlfriend is an ER nurse and immediately called it out. The photos clearly show it fitting way too loose and him moving his head around, and don't say its standard procedure to put it on, when we have seen many many other riders being carted off aren't wearing one. If you suspect someone may have a chance of having a neck injury, put the dam thing on correctly. Not just "here's your frickin neck collar lets get this guy outta here"

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I’m still somewhat mad about how rhey allowed forkner to walk to the mule, yes it’s a short walk, but take extra caution instead of possibly getting sued for not treating the rider properly and risk worse injuries.

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2/1/2025 10:53pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 11:40pm
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2/1/2025 11:02pm

Lawyer device. "But judge we put a collar on him". About as useful as big box corporate compliance training. "But judge we trained our people in how not to sexually harass".

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2/1/2025 11:36pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 11:38pm

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2/1/2025 11:46pm

I’m just going to ask because I don’t ever recall seeing these photos of BM104…..


Was Bryan paralyzed during the crash (or at least loss of feeling) and then moved liked that? Or did he still have feeling/mobility?


I’m fully aware the above is poorly written but phrasing that question is difficult….I just can’t fathom ANYONE, let alone medical staff, move someone like that if there was the slightest indication of a neck or back injury 

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2/1/2025 11:53pm

This blows my mind that they let Austin walk to the mule after one of the gnarliest crashes we've ever seen. Motocross racers are too tough for their own good, we all think we can "walk back to the truck" after a big one, the medical unit should be the ones putting riders in their place and taking full precautionary measures. 

 

Side note but did anyone see the medic team wearing those obnoxious red sunglasses while trying to put Noren's shoulder back in place during the LCQ? Take the damn shades off and do your job professionally!

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2/2/2025 12:01am

Failed flagger applicants are assigned to the a* med team

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2/2/2025 12:14am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2025 12:31am

what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do this,

 

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so here it says either be a licensed nurse, athletic trainer, EMT, or paramedic. So im going to say theres almost no way they have nurses out on the track and they are in the medic rig, so one of the other three is out there dragging dudes off the track. Paramedics are more highly trained than EMTs, and the best in their field isnt jumping at the chance to do this kind of job, most likely theyre getting guys that are the bottom of the barrel here

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2/2/2025 1:14am

Dont trust the ai answers, it pulls random crap from wherever. Find a source the old fashioned google way. 

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2/2/2025 3:12am

Looking through this thread makes me absolutely sick.  The Brian Moreau injury was insane…moving people with neck pain is something people without any medical background should know.  It gives me the ick deeply to see and hear about.  

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2/2/2025 3:25am

I pretty much say this every day, so I’ll start early today. Society as a whole sucks at their jobs and are getting dumber and lazier. We can argue about why that is, but there’s no denying it. 

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what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do...

what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do this,

 

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so here it says either be a licensed nurse, athletic trainer, EMT, or paramedic. So im going to say theres almost no way they have nurses out on the track and they are in the medic rig, so one of the other three is out there dragging dudes off the track. Paramedics are more highly trained than EMTs, and the best in their field isnt jumping at the chance to do this kind of job, most likely theyre getting guys that are the bottom of the barrel here

Athletic trainer, really?

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2/2/2025 3:34am

Here we go again except this time it’ll be Google University VS AI University medical experts for a true head to head for medical superiority. 

Then you’ll get the medical experts weighing in like their professional opinion matters but they’re just an X-ray tech. 

Or you get the vitards who claim they’re a doctor and they REALLY know what’s going on since they’re a Dr. but they’re just a dermatologist. 

Then you’ll get the ones who’s best friend’s Uncle’s Ex-wife was a school nurse 10 years ago. 

Then you’ll get the Vitard University medical experts weighing in and no one pays attention to them because no one takes their medical degree serious.


Then you might get an actual paramedic/ER nurse/ER Doc opinion but everyone ignores them because they just ruin the fun. 

Who else am I missing?

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2/2/2025 3:37am
C.Worthy wrote:
Here we go again except this time it’ll be Google University VS AI University medical experts for a true head to head for medical superiority. Then you’ll...

Here we go again except this time it’ll be Google University VS AI University medical experts for a true head to head for medical superiority. 

Then you’ll get the medical experts weighing in like their professional opinion matters but they’re just an X-ray tech. 

Or you get the vitards who claim they’re a doctor and they REALLY know what’s going on since they’re a Dr. but they’re just a dermatologist. 

Then you’ll get the ones who’s best friend’s Uncle’s Ex-wife was a school nurse 10 years ago. 

Then you’ll get the Vitard University medical experts weighing in and no one pays attention to them because no one takes their medical degree serious.


Then you might get an actual paramedic/ER nurse/ER Doc opinion but everyone ignores them because they just ruin the fun. 

Who else am I missing?

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2/2/2025 4:04am
C.Worthy wrote:
Here we go again except this time it’ll be Google University VS AI University medical experts for a true head to head for medical superiority. Then you’ll...

Here we go again except this time it’ll be Google University VS AI University medical experts for a true head to head for medical superiority. 

Then you’ll get the medical experts weighing in like their professional opinion matters but they’re just an X-ray tech. 

Or you get the vitards who claim they’re a doctor and they REALLY know what’s going on since they’re a Dr. but they’re just a dermatologist. 

Then you’ll get the ones who’s best friend’s Uncle’s Ex-wife was a school nurse 10 years ago. 

Then you’ll get the Vitard University medical experts weighing in and no one pays attention to them because no one takes their medical degree serious.


Then you might get an actual paramedic/ER nurse/ER Doc opinion but everyone ignores them because they just ruin the fun. 

Who else am I missing?

Dr. Pepper and Dr. Seuss. 

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2/2/2025 5:26am

Not to make light of the situation but man… they remind me of the old timey comedy show when the ambulance shows up and just tosses you in the back of the wagon and head out. 

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2/2/2025 5:41am

Hey I'm just impressed they're not volunteers like the flaggers?

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2/2/2025 5:46am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2025 5:54am

ure damn right its just shocking. U can already see how.. well whats the right word in english here..impeteous, gusty, rough (??) they are when they approach the rider. 

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2/2/2025 6:10am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2025 6:11am
1911 wrote:

Excellent, the Vital Doctors have showed up. 🤡

The device is used to keep your head still, my girlfriend is an ER nurse and immediately called it out. The photos clearly show it fitting...

The device is used to keep your head still, my girlfriend is an ER nurse and immediately called it out. The photos clearly show it fitting way too loose and him moving his head around, and don't say its standard procedure to put it on, when we have seen many many other riders being carted off aren't wearing one. If you suspect someone may have a chance of having a neck injury, put the dam thing on correctly. Not just "here's your frickin neck collar lets get this guy outta here"

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I'm an ER nurse as well and I've had a couple different paramedic friends tell me that the conventional wisdom about neck collars is changing for reasons you mention. Most times they are incorrectly placed.  Trust me, I've seen some of them on and be like wtf, why even bother. But the new thoughts is that a person, if conscious, will keep there head in the correct position due to pain/comfort. 

 Now whether or not that's true I don't know they place a lot more neck braces than I do but I've placed enough to know that they aren't made of steel and patients will still move their heads around and distort the braces location. They are only foam/plastic shit. While this is a skinny kid with a normal neck so it's easier to place correctly

 Half of today's fat, overweight, short-neck patients the shit is very hard to get a good fit. Some of those guys are md's and what happened to Brian is a tragic situation. . If you are going to put it on at least put it on correctly

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2/2/2025 6:10am

I can't look at the Moreau pics again.Jesus christ those pics are horrific. 

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2/2/2025 6:14am

I think the staff are under a lot of pressure to keep the show going as well. Think of how many times you've been stuck on the line for 30 min cause someone is down on the track with minor injury.

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what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do...

what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do this,

 

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so here it says either be a licensed nurse, athletic trainer, EMT, or paramedic. So im going to say theres almost no way they have nurses out on the track and they are in the medic rig, so one of the other three is out there dragging dudes off the track. Paramedics are more highly trained than EMTs, and the best in their field isnt jumping at the chance to do this kind of job, most likely theyre getting guys that are the bottom of the barrel here

Athletic trainer, really?

Don't confuse Athletic Trainers with Personal Trainers. One requires 4 years of schooling and specializes in responding to sport injuries. If im sprawled out on the track i'd much rather have an AT at my side than an EMT. 

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what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do...

what are the qualifications required to be on the floor as an A stars medic? they are certainly not getting the best and brightest to do this,

 

Untitled1111111.png?VersionId=1

 

so here it says either be a licensed nurse, athletic trainer, EMT, or paramedic. So im going to say theres almost no way they have nurses out on the track and they are in the medic rig, so one of the other three is out there dragging dudes off the track. Paramedics are more highly trained than EMTs, and the best in their field isnt jumping at the chance to do this kind of job, most likely theyre getting guys that are the bottom of the barrel here

You are more than welcome to write your resume and apply for a position with A-stars. 

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