Fav top 5 riders fast and rarely crashed?

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FLmxer wrote:

 McGrath, Dungey, Everts, Lechien off top of my head. 

Kevin Windham made it look easy and rarely crashed too.

Right, Windham just got promoted to my podium because he also did opening ceremonies creative jump transfers in bad lighting.

Pee Wee Herman if he falls, “I meant to do that.”

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What’s interesting to me about riders with very few injuries is that it implies injuries are not necessarily luck MOST of the time.  It’s a combination of factors.  Tommy Searle or Ryan Dungey for instance.  They’ve both been hurt of course, luck, but have largely avoided it which must be due to riding style mixed with risk aversion or split second decision ability?

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What’s interesting to me about riders with very few injuries is that it implies injuries are not necessarily luck MOST of the time.  It’s a combination...

What’s interesting to me about riders with very few injuries is that it implies injuries are not necessarily luck MOST of the time.  It’s a combination of factors.  Tommy Searle or Ryan Dungey for instance.  They’ve both been hurt of course, luck, but have largely avoided it which must be due to riding style mixed with risk aversion or split second decision ability?

They comment a lot lately about the supercross tracks like how the practice tracks don’t have tuff blocks, aren’t as tight, and you usually don’t have 22 riders on it that’s hammered lines sometimes down to the plywood or with deep pockets and cupped out whoops.  If you go by facts I wonder if there are more injuries in supercross, motocross, practice, or testing?  With the top guys lapping others going for position with blind faces you’d think there would be more accidents even just running into a crash with a lot of tight 1 or 2 lined tracks.  Whatever the deal is these guys have major guts to still hold it wide open especially after a crash that they just block out.  If the bike is sketchy I want to let off but they say it works better to ride the fish tails as opposed to slowing  the bike that would make it act unpredictably.  Jett was nearky perfect so far until they changed the layout a little on 1 track and he slightly bobbled inches to create a crash and then another one.  Most of these guys ride hurt they won’t say anc if they have been racing since 4 years old thats a lot of experience but plenty of chances to get hurt along the way.  Poetry in motion for at least a 10+ year pro career is more common now so more things are going right and why it’s so competitive too.  It used to be only a couple faster guys but they are right a lot of people could win with a good start and some luck.  Just surviving the new smx season might be a top 5-10 or podium if competitive.  The new attitude of take a podium or top 5 is keeping guys less injured than going for too many risks at one race.

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Jeff Ward. Mark Barnett.David Bailey

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Jeff Ward. Mark Barnett.David Bailey

Ward was on autopilot in any vehicle as a racer and fitness to with RAAM.

Barnett owned the 125 I was too young for.

Bailey and Fonseca shouldn’t be left off the list just because they got injured.  RC said the Fonz was a surgeon on the bike and Bailey was the last guy they expected to get hurt.  Even Magoo who did “crazy shit” was a surprise no one expected either with a nickname like that.  They all made the best of things with whatever they had left so it’s not just about loss just a different path sooner or similar fun stuff.  Bailey rode again and Magoo did 4-wheelers and power watersports to pave a path for others.

 

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Dungey was known for his consistency but I respect guys more who did what it took to win but also didn’t crash much. Villopoto and Cairoli for example 

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Marty Smith is the first guy I thought of.

 

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FLmxer wrote:

 McGrath, Dungey, Everts, Lechien off top of my head. 

Kevin Windham made it look easy and rarely crashed too.

Lechien was a big boy to have any breakable bones but I heard that he rode hurt with bad knees was it?

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Dungey was known for his consistency but I respect guys more who did what it took to win but also didn’t crash much. Villopoto and Cairoli...

Dungey was known for his consistency but I respect guys more who did what it took to win but also didn’t crash much. Villopoto and Cairoli for example 

The “take what the race gives you” from Dungey turned into RC’s advice after he would do anything to “not lose”.

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cz2crf2wc wrote:

Marty Smith is the first guy I thought of.

 

Marty raced everything all year.  It’s a lesson to the kids that even if you have a badass mx career you still gotta wear your seatbelt if not on the bike or just a lap belt isn’t good enough either for your precious cargo passengers.

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Windham

Is he your 1-5?  We won’t bite, hard.

2/1/2025 11:51pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 11:53pm

De Coster, Bailey, O'Mara, Bayle, McGrath, Dungey.   RC should fit in there too perhaps, but I remember his rookie season in the premier class as being a bit of crash test dummie exercise for a few rounds..... of course Everts should be considered, but I'm more AMA North America centric like most others here.  👍

For pure style on a bike, De Coster, O'mara, THE Dogger, Bayle, McGrath, WIndham, Stewart .... and got to say Jett may be up there for seeming to visually have effortless speed like Purcell.  RC, RV, even Tomac are/were generational speed and Champions, but were much more physical, supreme athletes to my simple fan's eyes.  Like the original bad boy, RJ Rick Johnson and to some extent Stanton.   

Always to fun to reminisce about riders, era's, and seasons past.  

Edit: Shit, how can I forget one of the original kings of smooth... Mary Smith.  

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McGrath, Jeff Ward, Everts

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Dungey’s gotta be near the top, no?

Absolutely the first guy that comes to mind

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If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for...

If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for the win.  You wouldn’t want to see them after the race if they came in 2nd.  Reed may have been a whiner but he didn’t want to settle for 2nd either.  Ricky said it was late nights trying to figure out how to beat others.  Dungey may not have crashed but there’s that 1% extra that separated him from the jaw droppers who risked it all to win it all and somehow made it happen.

80 wins between sx and mx. People act like he podiumed his way to his titles. He won plenty. 

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RC hit the ground plenty of times. He either didn't get hurt or rode through the pain without us knowing it.

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Absolutely the first guy that comes to mind

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If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for...

If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for the win.  You wouldn’t want to see them after the race if they came in 2nd.  Reed may have been a whiner but he didn’t want to settle for 2nd either.  Ricky said it was late nights trying to figure out how to beat others.  Dungey may not have crashed but there’s that 1% extra that separated him from the jaw droppers who risked it all to win it all and somehow made it happen.

80 wins between sx and mx. People act like he podiumed his way to his titles. He won plenty. 

I don’t know how people overlook how much he actually won.  He lost a couple of titles because of vapor lock and a rock in his chain. 

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Moto Braap wrote:
If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for...

If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for the win.  You wouldn’t want to see them after the race if they came in 2nd.  Reed may have been a whiner but he didn’t want to settle for 2nd either.  Ricky said it was late nights trying to figure out how to beat others.  Dungey may not have crashed but there’s that 1% extra that separated him from the jaw droppers who risked it all to win it all and somehow made it happen.

80 wins between sx and mx. People act like he podiumed his way to his titles. He won plenty. 

jnickell wrote:
I don’t know how people overlook how much he actually won.  He lost a couple of titles because of vapor lock and a rock in his...

I don’t know how people overlook how much he actually won.  He lost a couple of titles because of vapor lock and a rock in his chain. 

Dunge is the Rodney Dangerfield of moto.

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I think that the best ever to do this must be Jeremy Seewer ?

More than 200 consecutives GPs, he has never missed one since he turned pro in 2014 ! And with good results, not cruising around in 10th place !

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Absolutely the first guy that comes to mind

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If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for...

If Dungey ever settled for a podium I gotta give him a podium score too.  MC and a few other untouchables on bikes always went for the win.  You wouldn’t want to see them after the race if they came in 2nd.  Reed may have been a whiner but he didn’t want to settle for 2nd either.  Ricky said it was late nights trying to figure out how to beat others.  Dungey may not have crashed but there’s that 1% extra that separated him from the jaw droppers who risked it all to win it all and somehow made it happen.

80 wins between sx and mx. People act like he podiumed his way to his titles. He won plenty. 

I saw that stat too and how he’s top 5 ever.

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RC hit the ground plenty of times. He either didn't get hurt or rode through the pain without us knowing it.

Especially earlier in his career he crashed.  There were famous crashes with Stew but on his own I don’t remember a lot of unforced errors.  Like in the mud he lapped almost the whole field.

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I would throw Josh Grant into the mix, Chad Reed also. 

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kary wrote:
I think that the best ever to do this must be Jeremy Seewer ?More than 200 consecutives GPs, he has never missed one since he turned...

I think that the best ever to do this must be Jeremy Seewer ?

More than 200 consecutives GPs, he has never missed one since he turned pro in 2014 ! And with good results, not cruising around in 10th place !

We haven’t brought up Tomac but I think they were saying how he hadn’t missed many races except recently with the achilles.  For most of his career he didn’t miss a race.  He gets some bad finishes for various reasons like a slow starter but if there is a “beast mode when he’s on category” he’d make it.  

Webb can ride clapped out tracks and not crash to make up time and stay in the hunt.

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