Lawrence Bros fire agent!!

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1/23/2025 10:23am
PRM31 wrote:
I will wait for more facts. Both of these are bizarre. 1) Who goes on social media to fire someone, 2) who responds like that to...

I will wait for more facts. Both of these are bizarre. 1) Who goes on social media to fire someone, 2) who responds like that to such serious allegations? 

I can answer both questions with one word: motocross

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1/23/2025 10:24am

Rookie moves on both sides.  The Lawrence's should have never come out and stated the reasons for firing him and claimed fraud.  They should have simply stated "we have parted ways" and the truth/story would have eventually come out.   The second rookie move is Mirtl's response, looks like a high school kid wrote it.

Bottom line is if Mirtl has a good defense the Lawrences just screwed themselves and will pay for defamation of character damages.  I would hope they have plenty of evidence, but it's never a good idea to come out and make fraud/theft claims because the defendant can always drum up a story and sue for defamation of character.

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1/23/2025 10:24am
dude is cooked. Wasserman/Lawrences are in cahoots with this situation and clearly did their homework via an investigation. Wasserman cans the guy, and already has the...

dude is cooked. Wasserman/Lawrences are in cahoots with this situation and clearly did their homework via an investigation. Wasserman cans the guy, and already has the replacement agents to cover the Lawrences lickety split. 

Mirtl will either settle with Lawrences fast or he's gonna wake up in a jail cell soon.

Exactly. For those thinking this was someone checking an account last night and seeing something shady, and then he gets fired today.....no effing way. This was a process and an internal investigation long before the last few days. If not, I would be absolutely shocked. 

 

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1/23/2025 10:24am
jps256 wrote:
This shit is bananas, b a n a n a s. If Wasserman fired him as well, there is definitely something there but we need more...

This shit is bananas, b a n a n a s. If Wasserman fired him as well, there is definitely something there but we need more facts. Wonder if we are ever getting those details

OR it could be them scrambling to keep the Lawrence family happy by distancing themselves from Lucas to keep them onboard. 

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1/23/2025 10:27am

The statement about firing him is absolutely crazy and in a cursory google search (since I'm not a lawyer) it seems to hit all the high notes for libel/workplace defamation if it's at all untrue, so I'm inclined to believe he did that shit and Wasserman/the Lawrences have some pretty solid evidence. 

I mean even if he didn't do it, I cannot believe his first move was not to retain a lawyer. If he did do it, he should DEFINITELY still be getting a lawyer.  There's no way this is going to be the end of the story. 

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1/23/2025 10:28am
TriRacer27 wrote:

OR it could be them scrambling to keep the Lawrence family happy by distancing themselves from Lucas to keep them onboard. 

true

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1/23/2025 10:30am
GrapeApe wrote:

This could be a blessing in the sky for the Lawrences' image

Jabe wrote:

Blessing in disguise.

jps256 wrote:

ah man thats a killer 😂 gunna take awhile to live that one down GrapeApe

wait i get it now 🥴

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I love this place...

 

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1/23/2025 10:37am

He said a lot BUT he never said “I did not take any money from anyone that was not mine!”

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1/23/2025 10:37am

I'm not rushing to judgement

This guy always seemed aggressive and a bit if an attention seeker. But, he didn't come off as a thief. 

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1/23/2025 10:42am
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Any time I’ve tried telling someone “I’m a good guy, I swear”, I was up to no good 😂

Good thing I'm just another asshole

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1/23/2025 10:48am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 1:09pm
Rookie moves on both sides.  The Lawrence's should have never come out and stated the reasons for firing him and claimed fraud.  They should have simply...

Rookie moves on both sides.  The Lawrence's should have never come out and stated the reasons for firing him and claimed fraud.  They should have simply stated "we have parted ways" and the truth/story would have eventually come out.   The second rookie move is Mirtl's response, looks like a high school kid wrote it.

Bottom line is if Mirtl has a good defense the Lawrences just screwed themselves and will pay for defamation of character damages.  I would hope they have plenty of evidence, but it's never a good idea to come out and make fraud/theft claims because the defendant can always drum up a story and sue for defamation of character.

Agree completely. There was no good reason for this to be announced via social media. 

[Edit] I was incorrect in assuming this started with a social media post. Instead, it started with a statement to the moto press, who then posted it on social media.

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1/23/2025 10:49am
His side, which was expected:

His side, which was expected:


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Geez. Reading that only brought one question to mind: Is he on drugs?

That's what I'm thinking, Dirty Points!

 I've heard of this guy for so long and seen in interviews, but never really paid much attention. Did a google search on him and went to the videos, and there's one from Racer X called "Moto Marketing Podcast #107: Lucas Mirtl." Although this video was from February 2022, I watched it and he could not stop moving around and fidgeting between questions! I've been around a few people with drug addictions and that's exactly what it's like when talking to them. Just my 2 cents from what I saw, and reading that response he posted... 

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1/23/2025 10:52am
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Cant wait for Matthes to have him in-studio to tell his side of the story lol

If I was Matthes, I would not even allow that shit bag near my home......

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1/23/2025 10:54am
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PS what an idiot to not be happy milking that cash cow, being greedy to get more…

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

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1/23/2025 10:54am

statement from Wasserman :

 

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1/23/2025 10:56am

Hopefully he can still get some more custom sized 48 skinny jeans. 

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1/23/2025 10:57am

This industry is such a joke. 

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1/23/2025 10:58am

So the donut shop got robbed?

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1/23/2025 10:59am

No matter how it plays out in terms of guilty / not guilty, it's shitty all around.

They accomplished something pretty insane together.

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1/23/2025 11:07am
Everyone told me I was an idiot when I came on here and brought up the Jeff Ward Racing debacle in the middle of a Lucas...

Everyone told me I was an idiot when I came on here and brought up the Jeff Ward Racing debacle in the middle of a Lucas fluff session a couple years ago.  I was good buddies with one of the guys on the team.  At least the Lawrences won't miss mortgage payments on the money he embezzled from them.  Lots of the guys on JWR probably did...

What happened with JWR? I remember that it shut down suddenly. 

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1/23/2025 11:07am
jps256 wrote:
statement from Wasserman : 

statement from Wasserman :

 

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For those saying releasing statements on social media was irresponsible and ill-advised, other than Mirtl's "statement", all the others have obviously been coached and/or written by lawyers.

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1/23/2025 11:10am
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I love this place... 

I love this place...

 

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What are you talking about 😂 this place never forgets about Friese 

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1/23/2025 11:12am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 11:17am
His side, which was expected:

His side, which was expected:


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Geez. Reading that only brought one question to mind: Is he on drugs?

TyRod wrote:
That's what I'm thinking, Dirty Points! I've heard of this guy for so long and seen in interviews, but never really paid much attention. Did a google...

That's what I'm thinking, Dirty Points!

 I've heard of this guy for so long and seen in interviews, but never really paid much attention. Did a google search on him and went to the videos, and there's one from Racer X called "Moto Marketing Podcast #107: Lucas Mirtl." Although this video was from February 2022, I watched it and he could not stop moving around and fidgeting between questions! I've been around a few people with drug addictions and that's exactly what it's like when talking to them. Just my 2 cents from what I saw, and reading that response he posted... 

I've never seen or heard of this dude, just found his public statement obviously unprofessional, but also jarringly typical.

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1/23/2025 11:12am
dude is cooked. Wasserman/Lawrences are in cahoots with this situation and clearly did their homework via an investigation. Wasserman cans the guy, and already has the...

dude is cooked. Wasserman/Lawrences are in cahoots with this situation and clearly did their homework via an investigation. Wasserman cans the guy, and already has the replacement agents to cover the Lawrences lickety split. 

Mirtl will either settle with Lawrences fast or he's gonna wake up in a jail cell soon.

I thought he wanted a jury to plead his case?

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1/23/2025 11:13am
GrapeApe wrote:

This could be a blessing in the sky for the Lawrences' image

slumpstone wrote:

Pretty sure it’s a “ blessing in disguise “ but yes the skinny jeans wearing douche is done 

McG194 wrote:
joke-missed %281%29

I know explaining a joke is killing it but please explain. Non native speaker here. So I might not get cultural references etc. Curious to know

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1/23/2025 11:14am

RV is currently reviewing all his past back statements!!

What a shit show. 

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1/23/2025 11:15am
Chuck_Nice wrote:

So the donut shop got robbed?

Book keeping error...

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1/23/2025 11:16am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 11:16am
bc775 wrote:
Wonder how many riders are going to look back one day and realize how much money they pissed away on agents? The only reason this came...

Wonder how many riders are going to look back one day and realize how much money they pissed away on agents? The only reason this came to light was because its the Lawrence bros. But its nothing new. Agents remind of brokers and dispatchers in the trucking industry. They reap the benefits with little to no risk to them while everyone else puts in the time and money. 

Its not just agents, Josh Grants mom gambled away most all of Josh's earnings and then said he owed it to her, parents can be worse than agents. 

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