So who's Pit Board was it that Jo hit?

1/19/2025 10:16am

It looked like a blue pitboard, all the way at the end of the mechanics row. 

In the 250 main, it looked like Cole Davies mechanic was at the end, I have no idea if that's where he was in qualifying or if it was him who struck Jo though. 

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How do you think that going to be this week, post race? From the initial hit and the beating he put on in racing. It's probably...

How do you think that going to be this week, post race? From the initial hit and the beating he put on in racing. It's probably swollen as fuck today

My fear is that it cannot be fixed until they reduce the swelling so he may not be able to get it done tomorrow. 

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1/19/2025 10:17am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2025 10:22am
Kyzer138 wrote:

Who’s fault is it if a rider snags a tough block? Go ahead, berate me and say it’s different…I’m just stirring the pot 

Comparing a human with a tough block isn't a very good analogy.  I would hope the mechanics have an higher IQ than the tough blocks do.  Tough blocks cant think for themselves,they are an object.  Maybe a flagger would be a better comparison - flaggers stick hitting a  riders hand.   The tough block thing reminds me of the gun argument. Like the gun can think without the hand.  

 

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1/19/2025 10:22am
Kyzer138 wrote:

Shock 

FastEddy wrote:

That's official from the AMA?   Did the AMA talk to his mechanic...any ramifications?  

Kyzer138 wrote:
Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie...

Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie about it? (It’s vital so yes). It’s both their faults in my opinion. Board was out, Joe was close, avoidable by both involved. 

How is that, in any way, Jo’s fault?

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Kyzer138 wrote:

Who’s fault is it if a rider snags a tough block? Go ahead, berate me and say it’s different…I’m just stirring the pot 

Tuff blocks you can see tapped in 4th. Knife edge pitboards not so much.

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1/19/2025 10:25am

If I was Juju, I’d make sure I stayed out good and clear of the mechanics’ barrier the rest of the season…😎

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FastEddy wrote:
Comparing a human with a tough block isn't a very good analogy.  I would hope the mechanics have an higher IQ than the tough blocks do...

Comparing a human with a tough block isn't a very good analogy.  I would hope the mechanics have an higher IQ than the tough blocks do.  Tough blocks cant think for themselves,they are an object.  Maybe a flagger would be a better comparison - flaggers stick hitting a  riders hand.   The tough block thing reminds me of the gun argument. Like the gun can think without the hand.  

 

You expect to find good analogies on Vital?

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1/19/2025 10:29am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2025 10:30am

New Rule???

Rule #2U-4Q-2M.E:

A: Any mechanic holding a Pit Board / Towel / and or Tool, shall not infringed, impede, touch or strike another competitor or competitors motorcycle. 

B: Any violation of rule "A" shall receive a fine and a 1 lap penalty.

C: Fine $1000.00 (Goes to rider or team that infraction happened against) 

D: Rider / mechanic involved in rule #2u-4Q-2M.E, will not have pit board access for 1 year.

E; Second offence, PILLORY.

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1/19/2025 10:34am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2025 10:35am

 Why not make hitting riders with pitboards legal?

Foam the edges and you can also throw them, but you only get one pit board for the night

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Hand guards FTW

Never understood why more people do not run them.

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Rjk31 wrote:

But kitchen couldn't race...

One would believe that he had to be really sick for PC to let him pull out and switch coasts at the last minute.

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Rjk31 wrote:

But kitchen couldn't race...

crmx105 wrote:

One would believe that he had to be really sick for PC to let him pull out and switch coasts at the last minute.

I Agree. Just a poke at him, as riding sick for a race might have made the rest of the West Coast series interesting with the current situations we now have. 

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Kyzer138 wrote:

Shock 

FastEddy wrote:

That's official from the AMA?   Did the AMA talk to his mechanic...any ramifications?  

Kyzer138 wrote:
Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie...

Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie about it? (It’s vital so yes). It’s both their faults in my opinion. Board was out, Joe was close, avoidable by both involved. 

And here I thought he would fess up to it…

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I've used them at big R.C. car races (radios) where there's 16 drivers on the stand and it's hard to communicate with your pit for fueling. We do 30-to-45-minute mains and it's a love hate relationship. I need to fuel but it's very distracting whenever it's on Vox and you get random information and crosstalk from pit lane. I've had to toss the headset...

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Kyzer138 wrote:

Who’s fault is it if a rider snags a tough block? Go ahead, berate me and say it’s different…I’m just stirring the pot 

FastEddy wrote:
Comparing a human with a tough block isn't a very good analogy.  I would hope the mechanics have an higher IQ than the tough blocks do...

Comparing a human with a tough block isn't a very good analogy.  I would hope the mechanics have an higher IQ than the tough blocks do.  Tough blocks cant think for themselves,they are an object.  Maybe a flagger would be a better comparison - flaggers stick hitting a  riders hand.   The tough block thing reminds me of the gun argument. Like the gun can think without the hand.  

 

Like I said. Stirring the pot. It’s a snowy Sunday I have nothing to do but troll today 

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1/19/2025 12:04pm

If someone threw a beer can at Jo’s head some of y’all would still claim it was his fault for being where the beer can was flying. JFC, a pitboard or mechanic is not an obstacle the riders are meant to take on. It was 100% the fault of the mechanic. 

It’s so absurd that it’s almost funny that this mechanic thought it was so important to tell his rider he was sitting 12th in qualifying after 2 minutes that he took out the current points leader because his head was so far up his own ass. Idiot.  

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I raced a 2 hour xc race with a fractured metacarpal in my throttle hand last year and that sucked balls. His pinky finger looks like a compound break, that must have really sucked. Geez, I hate that for him.

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1/19/2025 12:13pm

I saw during the races that the mechanics with pit boards were behind a single barrier.

After this freak incident, maybe have two barriers between the mechanics and riders, so I can never ruin someone's season again.

 
 

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I saw during the races that the mechanics with pit boards were behind a single barrier.After this freak incident, maybe have two barriers between the mechanics...

I saw during the races that the mechanics with pit boards were behind a single barrier.

After this freak incident, maybe have two barriers between the mechanics and riders, so I can never ruin someone's season again.

 
 

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Or place them in an area where the racing line is not encumbered by them.

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1/19/2025 12:48pm

How about just doing away with pit boards completely and let the racers figure the race out on their own? It's 20 minutes, not like a 3 hour endurance race where you're worried about fuel.

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Why are the mechanics positioned such that the boards are in the racing line? 

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1/19/2025 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2025 12:57pm

Change pit boards out for messages on the jumbo screens 

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avidchimp wrote:
How about just doing away with pit boards completely and let the racers figure the race out on their own? It's 20 minutes, not like a...

How about just doing away with pit boards completely and let the racers figure the race out on their own? It's 20 minutes, not like a 3 hour endurance race where you're worried about fuel.

Maybe I am wrong but it sure seemed like Eli got the message to go inside in the sand.

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Kyzer138 wrote:

Shock 

FastEddy wrote:

That's official from the AMA?   Did the AMA talk to his mechanic...any ramifications?  

Kyzer138 wrote:
Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie...

Duffe posted that it was not his board and that it was Shocks. What more do you need? You really think anyone is going to lie about it? (It’s vital so yes). It’s both their faults in my opinion. Board was out, Joe was close, avoidable by both involved. 

How do you figure it was in any way Jo's fault? He was on the track where he belonged. The mechanic left the board out to far where it could hit someone's hand. 100 percent the mechanic's fault. 

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BobPA wrote:

Hand guards FTW

Never understood why more people do not run them.

Same

And it looked goofy as hell with just 1 handguard on. Maybe try protecting both of your hands lol

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Not that I have a problem with the pit board system. Sh*t happens. But I think they could improve things by looking into replacing the pit board system with a digital tower (similar to the leaderboard tower) with a half dozen or so 'slots'. Mechanic enters message from his phone or pad or W/E. When a rider's transponder is within 'x' proximity to the digital sign board, any msg appears at top and remains until he leaves the 'zone' or it gets bumped off the bottom by other riders entering the zone. Fairly easy to implement given they already have the leaderboard set up. Just add another and re-purpose it for this. A voice in the helmet would be way too distracting, IMO.

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1/19/2025 1:37pm
aeffertz wrote:
If someone threw a beer can at Jo’s head some of y’all would still claim it was his fault for being where the beer can was...

If someone threw a beer can at Jo’s head some of y’all would still claim it was his fault for being where the beer can was flying. JFC, a pitboard or mechanic is not an obstacle the riders are meant to take on. It was 100% the fault of the mechanic. 

It’s so absurd that it’s almost funny that this mechanic thought it was so important to tell his rider he was sitting 12th in qualifying after 2 minutes that he took out the current points leader because his head was so far up his own ass. Idiot.  

Wait one damn minute! Are you saying that IT’S NOT THE RIDERS FAULT when someone OFF THE TRACK actually HITS THE RIDER WITH A PIT-BOARD? 

HOW DARE YOU! 😂

Seems to me the RIDER is on the track and has the right of way. In what world is that not obvious?🤔

So, aside from all my sarcastic bs…I’ve got to ask: what the hell is wrong with some of these people? 

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1/19/2025 1:41pm
crockett wrote:

 Why not make hitting riders with pitboards legal?

Foam the edges and you can also throw them, but you only get one pit board for the night

Foam edges is the best solution for sure. Really easy to do.

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