TEMU and its excessive amount of moto gear

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4/15/2024 9:16am Edited Date/Time 4/15/2024 9:20am

i looked up temu and dropped $9.XX for a pair of 100% gloves just to see quality / fit ETC .

gloves came in all factory packaging same as the ones i purchased from a well know on line retailer , only noticeable difference was the cardboard card was cut in half , the half with barcode  was gone.

quality fit colors all look top shelf , im betting back door retailer undercutting dealers.

not sure id buy any other gear but gloves cant go wrong with the 100% 

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4/15/2024 10:43am

Most of the stuff they sell is from a batch that got rejected by the brand fir one reason ir another.  I bought Thor gear where the color orange on top didnt quite match the pants. But it was a tiny trace graphic and you couldnt really tell. That was 3 years ago and gear is still good.

It's hard to cry for these brands. They can go pay for cheaper labor from China, but i cant pay for cheaper product?  

You made your bed, now sleep in it.

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4/15/2024 3:23pm
I've haven't bought from TEMU but I've heard you should use a credit card that you don't often use and can easily cancel without headache.  People...

I've haven't bought from TEMU but I've heard you should use a credit card that you don't often use and can easily cancel without headache.  People I know who bought from there had credit card fraud on the cards they used for TEMU.

Came here to say this. Temu and tiktok are data mining platforms for the Chinese government

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4/16/2024 4:09am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2024 4:19am

Came here to say this. Temu and tiktok are data mining platforms for the Chinese government

Its so interesting to me that people dont realize that Google (&YouTube),  FB, Twitter are exactly that for the US govt. Thats where the Chinese got the idea. 

The US government literally brags about inventing the whole damn internet and Google. 

How is it any different?

https://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/btyb/innovation.jsp

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4/16/2024 6:00am
avidchimp wrote:

If these companies are getting back door'd by their overseas suppliers that's on them for putting profit over American labor.

And the intellectual property theft. The brands are not getting their money for the goods.

4/16/2024 6:22am

Last year at my local motorcycle shop I bought 100% Armega goggles for close to retail, about $100.  They just recently had a smokin deal, I didn’t ask questions why but I got another Armega for $40 this time.  I will definitely compare the 2 and see if I can notice any differences.  Maybe both are knock off imitations I don’t know.

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4/16/2024 6:47am

Won a set of 100% with a mirror type lense, pretty sure they are from Temu, or similar site. Were pretty decent, didn’t really like the fit, but I’m not fussy. 
 

Took them and my Oakleys to Bali for some riding. Flew back and when I took them out the bag, the lense tint had all flaked off - hell of a mess! Still finding it in clothes and on the floor. Guess they were a bit damp, and the heat and humidity? Oakleys were fine. 

4/16/2024 6:54am

I got some 100% goggles and the logos are just kinda off-center.  The fast house stuff says "fast goose" when you zoom in on the logos in a lot of the listings. 

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Came here to say this. Temu and tiktok are data mining platforms for the Chinese government

kage173 wrote:
Its so interesting to me that people dont realize that Google (&YouTube),  FB, Twitter are exactly that for the US govt. Thats where the Chinese got...

Its so interesting to me that people dont realize that Google (&YouTube),  FB, Twitter are exactly that for the US govt. Thats where the Chinese got the idea. 

The US government literally brags about inventing the whole damn internet and Google. 

How is it any different?

https://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/btyb/innovation.jsp

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https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/04/18/senate-republicans-call-for-investigation-of-chinese-temu-app-n2172983
 

I’ve never even heard of this app until this thread but it seems to be getting a little more interest from Congress. I’m sure they’ll all get bought off and China will continue to enslave Uyghurs and steal intellectual property.

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4/18/2024 5:20pm

I wouldn't guys, you don't want the Chinese government know your interested in motocross gloves.....

I purchased a chest mount and helmet mount for my gopro and the quality is excellent and shipping was fast. Cant complain

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4/18/2024 6:11pm

If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company? Blink

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4/18/2024 10:54pm
Madmax31 wrote:
I've bought from Ali and Temu using my CC with no problems.   Bought 10 air filters for my motorcycle for $3.90 each!  They work and look...

I've bought from Ali and Temu using my CC with no problems.  

Bought 10 air filters for my motorcycle for $3.90 each!  They work and look like good quality.  Have also bought some tools that are as cheap if not cheaper than Harbor Freight and are better quality.  Also adult toys for the wife. Smile  

ksithumper wrote:

If you have a $3 motorcycle, buy a $3 air filter.

I have a $10,000 motorcycle should i buy a $10,000 air filter?  TH that seams excessive but I trust your judgement

 

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4/18/2024 10:55pm

Came here to say this. Temu and tiktok are data mining platforms for the Chinese government

kage173 wrote:
Its so interesting to me that people dont realize that Google (&YouTube),  FB, Twitter are exactly that for the US govt. Thats where the Chinese got...

Its so interesting to me that people dont realize that Google (&YouTube),  FB, Twitter are exactly that for the US govt. Thats where the Chinese got the idea. 

The US government literally brags about inventing the whole damn internet and Google. 

How is it any different?

https://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/btyb/innovation.jsp

C.Worthy wrote:

American Tech spywear who use Chinese labor to do the spying...

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4/18/2024 10:55pm

That < 3 pound international shipping subsidy will do that 

4/19/2024 6:14am
Hcallz5 wrote:
If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company?

If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company? Blink

Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the information given to them and produce it. No R&D cost etc.

It's not really a fair comparison either. Temu does a lot of sketchy stuff that allows them to undercut "real" sellers even with the exact same products. Like not paying import duties or taxes in the US. Some loopholes they use are legal (such as section 321), some are pretty sketchy. Definitely not great for the US though. The amount the US loses on these orders just on import duty alone is absolutely insane. Also since they're going through those loopholes their shipments are just waved through by customs so you never really know where the goods come from - your gloves may easily be made by Uyghurs. So yeah forcing people to make them is probably cheaper than what a US brand can achieve.

The other thing is that temu isn't profitable. They lost billions last year. They're incentivizing sellers for selling on their platform while losing like $30 on every order. The fact that people buy something for $1 with free shipping and don't think that these numbers can't add up blows my mind. Also not something that any US brand can do longterm. There are very deep pockets backing this. The Chinese parent company PDD for one, and you have to assume that the Chinese govt is backing them as well at this point.

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is

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4/19/2024 6:38am
Hcallz5 wrote:
If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company?

If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company? Blink

crusty_xx wrote:
Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the...

Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the information given to them and produce it. No R&D cost etc.

It's not really a fair comparison either. Temu does a lot of sketchy stuff that allows them to undercut "real" sellers even with the exact same products. Like not paying import duties or taxes in the US. Some loopholes they use are legal (such as section 321), some are pretty sketchy. Definitely not great for the US though. The amount the US loses on these orders just on import duty alone is absolutely insane. Also since they're going through those loopholes their shipments are just waved through by customs so you never really know where the goods come from - your gloves may easily be made by Uyghurs. So yeah forcing people to make them is probably cheaper than what a US brand can achieve.

The other thing is that temu isn't profitable. They lost billions last year. They're incentivizing sellers for selling on their platform while losing like $30 on every order. The fact that people buy something for $1 with free shipping and don't think that these numbers can't add up blows my mind. Also not something that any US brand can do longterm. There are very deep pockets backing this. The Chinese parent company PDD for one, and you have to assume that the Chinese govt is backing them as well at this point.

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is

“Losing $30 on every order” “Temu doesn’t make money”

What benefit do you get from pulling info straight out of your ass? 
They operate on almost a 25% margin even with their insane pricing, marketing, etc.
 

Their net profit last year alone was $8.3 Billion USD on a Gross Revenue of $34 Billion USD. 
https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/temu-owner-pinduoduo-nearly-doubles-an…

4/19/2024 8:14am
Hcallz5 wrote:
If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company?

If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company? Blink

crusty_xx wrote:
Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the...

Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the information given to them and produce it. No R&D cost etc.

It's not really a fair comparison either. Temu does a lot of sketchy stuff that allows them to undercut "real" sellers even with the exact same products. Like not paying import duties or taxes in the US. Some loopholes they use are legal (such as section 321), some are pretty sketchy. Definitely not great for the US though. The amount the US loses on these orders just on import duty alone is absolutely insane. Also since they're going through those loopholes their shipments are just waved through by customs so you never really know where the goods come from - your gloves may easily be made by Uyghurs. So yeah forcing people to make them is probably cheaper than what a US brand can achieve.

The other thing is that temu isn't profitable. They lost billions last year. They're incentivizing sellers for selling on their platform while losing like $30 on every order. The fact that people buy something for $1 with free shipping and don't think that these numbers can't add up blows my mind. Also not something that any US brand can do longterm. There are very deep pockets backing this. The Chinese parent company PDD for one, and you have to assume that the Chinese govt is backing them as well at this point.

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is

studworx wrote:
“Losing $30 on every order” “Temu doesn’t make money” What benefit do you get from pulling info straight out of your ass?  They operate on almost...

“Losing $30 on every order” “Temu doesn’t make money”

What benefit do you get from pulling info straight out of your ass? 
They operate on almost a 25% margin even with their insane pricing, marketing, etc.
 

Their net profit last year alone was $8.3 Billion USD on a Gross Revenue of $34 Billion USD. 
https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/temu-owner-pinduoduo-nearly-doubles-an…

Huh? I never said PDD was unprofitable. I said PDD funds Temu which they can obviously only do if the parent company makes some money

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4/20/2024 8:08am Edited Date/Time 4/20/2024 8:10am
crusty_xx wrote:
Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the...

Most brands operate around 10-15% contribution margin before overhead. Also they are the ones developing and designing the product. The factory just has to take the information given to them and produce it. No R&D cost etc.

It's not really a fair comparison either. Temu does a lot of sketchy stuff that allows them to undercut "real" sellers even with the exact same products. Like not paying import duties or taxes in the US. Some loopholes they use are legal (such as section 321), some are pretty sketchy. Definitely not great for the US though. The amount the US loses on these orders just on import duty alone is absolutely insane. Also since they're going through those loopholes their shipments are just waved through by customs so you never really know where the goods come from - your gloves may easily be made by Uyghurs. So yeah forcing people to make them is probably cheaper than what a US brand can achieve.

The other thing is that temu isn't profitable. They lost billions last year. They're incentivizing sellers for selling on their platform while losing like $30 on every order. The fact that people buy something for $1 with free shipping and don't think that these numbers can't add up blows my mind. Also not something that any US brand can do longterm. There are very deep pockets backing this. The Chinese parent company PDD for one, and you have to assume that the Chinese govt is backing them as well at this point.

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is

Amazon didnt turn a profit for 10 years. So, again whats the difference?

All of this product, whether from Temu or Foxracing.com is made in the same factories. And if you think US companies dont exploit every import loophole possible, you are naive.

Whats the lesson? Everybody is spying on you, everyone is trying to screw you. Whether they're Chinese, American, or Martian. If you can get a better deal on gear from overseas, do it. The US brands got a better deal on labor and didnt hesitate for a second. 

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4/20/2024 8:09am
Hcallz5 wrote:
If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company?

If a company has all their shit made overseas then imports it and charges you a 600% markup is it really an American company? Blink

If you ask their management, they'll tell you that theyre a "global brand." 

Cool👍 Im a global customer.

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12/14/2024 7:11am
motokiwi wrote:

I would avoid the site all together. It's just a giant Chinese state run project designed to analyze you as a consumer.

Just like all of the American companies…

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12/14/2024 8:01am

Temu knock offs aren’t made in the same factory, they are exactly what they seem like, cheap knock offs. It’s a myth from people justifying their purchases. Some seem good, but ultimately someone bought a genuine product and copied it. The business put forward to these factories from Brands is too much to risk, and there are a LOT of knock off factories in the far east. Very few are used by mainstream brands, and a lot of brands are moving away from China.


Also, the cost of manufacturing an item is not the landed cost of an item, shipping, duty, cost of storage, overheads, employees all factor in. Most companies D2C businesses account for very little in the way of turnover, in real terms a 3rd of the RRP is what the item sells for in volume as it is purchased by the WPS/PU companies of the world. They make a margin, and so does the dealer who buys it to resell to end users. 

If you want dealers and distributors to go away so you can buy cheap, you can kiss goodbye to any level of warranty, the ability to try on and really any level of service. Some people care, some people don’t but if you are buying from Temu, you dont have the right to complain that the sport is not doing so well. Every step from manufacturer to store front relies on customers, always has

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MXNorth12 wrote:
I met this guy that bought FXR mx gear from TEMU , he said its no where close to the real FXR gear that he owns...

image001 0I met this guy that bought FXR mx gear from TEMU , he said its no where close to the real FXR gear that he owns. Thought he could save a few dollars. I guess you get what you pay for. 

Husky gloves, FXR temu gear, and O’Neil boots 🤨🤔😬🤣🤣🤣

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12/14/2024 8:16am

Joined today, first post in a thread dormant for almost 8 months about a Chinese knockoff site. 

Anyone else smell bot?  Or troll farm?

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12/15/2024 12:26pm

The same day I ordered something from Temu for the first time, my information was found on the Dark Web according to my credit report.  I dont order anything from Temu anymore 

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